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| 01:26:00 | raptor | so in trying to implement a feed reader for the log bot (to spit out project updates..) |
| 01:27:00 | raptor | I discover that any time I try to parse XML, RAM usage increases a minimum of 20 MB |
| 01:29:00 | watusimoto | that's xml for you. just looking at it makes you fat |
| 01:30:00 | raptor | i'm trying as hard as I can to keep the bot RAM usage down, but XML isn't going to let me (especially not in JAVA) |
| 01:47:00 | watusimoto | I'd be looking at Perl for that use case |
| 01:48:00 | watusimoto | possibly Python |
| 01:48:00 | raptor | i know PERL's syntax OK, but i've never actually used python much |
| 01:49:00 | watusimoto | that's why I'd prfer perl |
| 01:52:00 | raptor | except i don't know how to do threading in PERL |
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| 02:22:00 | watusimoto | why threading? |
| 02:22:00 | raptor | because there need to be an inner constant loop that will launch off threads to do certain processes |
| 02:23:00 | raptor | one process would be to check for project updates every so often |
| 02:23:00 | raptor | another is to keep pinging the IRC server to keep the bot alive |
| 03:07:00 | watusimoto | I see |
| 03:23:00 | watusimoto | do you know any tools for visualizing an the object hierarchy we have? |
| 03:23:00 | raptor | not off the top of my head |
| 03:24:00 | watusimoto | I want to explain what I'm doing, but it's getting complex |
| 03:24:00 | raptor | oh |
| 03:24:00 | raptor | umbrello |
| 03:24:00 | raptor | for linux |
| 03:24:00 | raptor | import classes and it creates a UML diagram |
| 03:26:00 | watusimoto | ok, I'll check it out |
| 03:26:00 | raptor | but maybe something similar for windows.. |
| 03:27:00 | raptor | if that's what your thinking |
| 03:27:00 | raptor | take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unified_Modeling_Language_tools |
| 03:27:00 | raptor | that's how i found umbrello for KDE |
| 03:33:00 | raptor | ha! i reduce memory by 12MB by converting the XML to JSON first and parsing it as JSON |
| 03:47:00 | watusimoto | great idea |
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| 04:29:00 | raptor | all right! |
| 04:29:00 | raptor | the log bot should post updates to the channel now when we push to google code |
| 04:30:00 | raptor | I will probably one day have to rewrite the whole thing in Perl or Python... |
| 04:30:00 | raptor | i wonder how hard it would be to do a C++ bot |
| 04:31:00 | raptor | i've never done threading in any language but java |
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| 13:32:00 | raptor | alright - let's see if my latest commit gets logged here in a few min. |
| 13:37:00 | raptor | hooray! |
| 13:44:00 | watusimoto | hey look, a commit message! |
| 13:44:00 | raptor | does that look ok? |
| 14:38:00 | watusimoto | looks great |
| 14:39:00 | watusimoto | I just went and quit my job |
| 14:39:00 | raptor | what?! |
| 14:39:00 | raptor | did you get your letter? |
| 14:39:00 | watusimoto | yes, finally |
| 14:39:00 | raptor | oh good |
| 14:39:00 | watusimoto | yes, it's progress :-) |
| 14:40:00 | raptor | so... europe? |
| 14:40:00 | watusimoto | maybe I'll have the editor done by the time I go! |
| 14:40:00 | watusimoto | yes Luxembourg |
| 14:40:00 | watusimoto | sorry,... the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg |
| 14:40:00 | raptor | haha |
| 14:40:00 | watusimoto | to use it's proper name |
| 14:40:00 | watusimoto | I start there Sept. 1 |
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| 14:41:00 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Sun May 01 01:51:58 EDT 2011 |
| 14:41:00 | watusimoto | if we can get all the paperwork in order |
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| 14:41:00 | raptor | wow, that a while without work |
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| 17:13:00 | raptor | so what does 'quit' mean in OR? |
| 17:13:00 | sam686 | what "OR" ? |
| 17:13:00 | raptor | Oregon |
| 17:13:00 | raptor | hi sam |
| 17:14:00 | raptor | in Utah, quit means you can leave that same day |
| 17:14:00 | raptor | work at will state |
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| 19:23:00 | raptor | sam's here twice! |
| 19:24:00 | [1]sam686 | i lagged out... |
| 19:24:00 | raptor | you can 'ghost' the other user |
| 19:24:00 | raptor | -> /nickserv ghost sam686 <password> |
| 19:25:00 | raptor | that will steal your name back |
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| 19:49:00 | raptor | ha! i found a c++ irc framework that can run bots in about 640K |
| 19:49:00 | raptor | which should be enough RAM for anybody... |
| 19:54:00 | watusimoto | indeed! |
| 20:01:00 | raptor | sooo... when you quit, did you give notice? |
| 20:15:00 | watusimoto | you mean, hey boss, i'm going to let you know I'm quitting in a couple of weeks. talk to you then! |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | yep |
| 20:16:00 | raptor | utah doesn't require 2 weeks notice |
| 20:16:00 | raptor | but it's good practice |
| 20:20:00 | watusimoto | I told him I'd be around long enough to wrap up or pass off any projects I had. I don't like to leave things untidy |
| 20:20:00 | watusimoto | I consider that a basic professional obligation |
| 20:20:00 | raptor | i agree |
| 20:20:00 | watusimoto | I'll be working here til mid June or so |
| 20:20:00 | watusimoto | exact date TBD |
| 20:20:00 | raptor | is it an at-will working state, though? |
| 20:21:00 | watusimoto | not sure |
| 20:21:00 | watusimoto | I've never had reason to find out :-) |
| 20:21:00 | raptor | that's the best way to be |
| 20:21:00 | watusimoto | anyway, of all the jobs I've had, the vast minority have been in Oregon |
| 20:21:00 | watusimoto | the vast minority have been in the US |
| 20:22:00 | watusimoto | so many laws... so little time |
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