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| 02:26:00 | raptor | sigh |
| 02:27:00 | raptor | it seems everytime i try to pick up the input rewrite again, my attention is called elsewhere |
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| 03:21:00 | raptor | Hi Flynnn |
| 03:21:00 | raptor | are you working on coding somethign? |
| 03:22:00 | Flynnn | I was working on the bots issue, but I am beginning ot think my idea has its problems |
| 03:22:00 | Flynnn | Why? |
| 03:22:00 | raptor | just curious who is doing development... we are all kinda on big rewrites of large portions of code |
| 03:22:00 | raptor | so it may seem like we're not doing much.. |
| 03:22:00 | Flynnn | Ahh, any way I can help with that? |
| 03:23:00 | raptor | not sure - my lot right now is to rewrite the input system |
| 03:24:00 | raptor | big task - but not really suited for more than one person |
| 03:24:00 | raptor | unless i give up :) |
| 03:24:00 | Flynnn | I'm sure you'll get through it hehe |
| 03:24:00 | Flynnn | Sorry if I seem like a lump who knows nothing |
| 03:24:00 | Flynnn | I was being pretty stupid with the PHP thing |
| 03:24:00 | raptor | no need to apologize |
| 03:25:00 | raptor | i didn't know c++ until I played with bitfighter |
| 03:25:00 | raptor | taught myself since last November |
| 03:25:00 | Flynnn | Nice! |
| 03:25:00 | raptor | (although it is debateable whether I actually know it...) |
| 03:25:00 | Flynnn | xD |
| 03:27:00 | Flynnn | Are there any particularly pressing issues that need resolving other than the ones in the issues list? |
| 03:27:00 | Flynnn | Bots jsut don't seem to be my thing |
| 03:28:00 | raptor | that list has most of the stuff |
| 03:28:00 | raptor | the really big things aren't on the list - like the editor rewrite (watusimoto is doing that) and the input rewrite (my joy of joys) |
| 03:28:00 | raptor | oh |
| 03:28:00 | raptor | you are on Mac, right? |
| 03:28:00 | Flynnn | Indeed I am |
| 03:29:00 | raptor | does your mac have a mic? |
| 03:29:00 | Flynnn | Yep! :) |
| 03:29:00 | raptor | i just got voice chat working on Mac with the last revision - I would like to test what it sounds like from someone who has a mac |
| 03:29:00 | raptor | (i am on linux) |
| 03:29:00 | Flynnn | Sure |
| 03:29:00 | raptor | up for a test? |
| 03:30:00 | Flynnn | Absolutely :) |
| 03:30:00 | Flynnn | Which clone shall I clone? |
| 03:30:00 | raptor | ok, let me compile real quick and start a server from the latest revision |
| 03:30:00 | raptor | trunk |
| 03:30:00 | raptor | err.. the main one |
| 03:30:00 | Flynnn | Allright, |
| 03:31:00 | raptor | ok compiling.. |
| 03:31:00 | Flynnn | Cloning... |
| 03:32:00 | raptor | oh great - it doesn't compile in linux... |
| 03:32:00 | Flynnn | THat's a problem |
| 03:33:00 | raptor | ok minor issue, compiling again... |
| 03:33:00 | Flynnn | Still cloning lol |
| 03:34:00 | raptor | success! |
| 03:34:00 | Flynnn | Stiiill cloning |
| 03:34:00 | Flynnn | My internet has been slow today, sorry |
| 03:34:00 | raptor | no problem, whenever you're ready - you have to build, too |
| 03:37:00 | raptor | oh man, there is an issue with mouse scaling in full screem modes... |
| 03:38:00 | raptor | but never mind that... |
| 03:38:00 | Flynnn | Aand it jsut finished cloning. Now to compile |
| 03:42:00 | Flynnn | Woo! Done compiling |
| 03:43:00 | raptor | ok, hosting.. |
| 03:55:00 | raptor | thanks! |
| 03:56:00 | Flynnn | No prob :) |
| 03:56:00 | raptor | going to ask the OpenAL dev about feedback cancellation... |
| 03:56:00 | Flynnn | I have a little issue i think I'd liek to fix |
| 03:56:00 | raptor | ok |
| 03:56:00 | Flynnn | Seems the chat handling is a little.. intersting |
| 03:56:00 | Flynnn | I'd liek to define some public moethods so you dobn't have to iterate through the connected players anymore |
| 03:56:00 | Flynnn | ** methods |
| 03:57:00 | raptor | we rewrote most of the chat stuff for 015a |
| 03:57:00 | Flynnn | Ahh |
| 03:57:00 | raptor | you are talking about tab-completion? |
| 03:57:00 | Flynnn | Nope |
| 03:57:00 | raptor | oh |
| 03:57:00 | Flynnn | Came across an artifact in the addbots command |
| 03:57:00 | Flynnn | What's the current method you guys are using? |
| 03:57:00 | raptor | for? |
| 03:57:00 | Flynnn | Sending message to all players |
| 03:57:00 | Flynnn | MEthod as in function |
| 03:57:00 | Flynnn | Sorry, java speak herel ol |
| 03:58:00 | raptor | it's done over an RPC function with the TNLNetObject |
| 03:58:00 | raptor | let me see which one specifically... |
| 03:58:00 | raptor | all chat's are sent to the server, then back to all clients |
| 03:58:00 | raptor | *chats |
| 03:58:00 | Flynnn | Hmm, not exactly what i meant |
| 03:58:00 | Flynnn | Here, elt me pull up some code |
| 03:59:00 | raptor | i'm a bit dense sometimes, and need very precise specifics... |
| 03:59:00 | Flynnn | StringTableEntry msg = StringTableEntry("Robot added by %e0"); |
| 03:59:00 | Flynnn | Vector<StringTableEntry> e; |
| 03:59:00 | Flynnn | e.push_back(clientRef->clientConnection->getClientName()); |
| 03:59:00 | Flynnn | for(S32 i = 0; i < mClientList.size(); i++) |
| 03:59:00 | Flynnn | mClientList[i]->clientConnection->s2cDisplayMessageE(GameConnection::ColorNuclearGreen, SFXNone, msg, e); |
| 03:59:00 | Flynnn | Would be nicer if all that were osmething like: |
| 03:59:00 | raptor | s2cDisplayMessageE |
| 03:59:00 | Flynnn | SendMEssageTOAllPlayers("Robot added by %eo") |
| 04:00:00 | Flynnn | Formatting as a high wish, but sitll xD |
| 04:00:00 | Flynnn | s2cDisplayMessageE, got it |
| 04:00:00 | Flynnn | Lemme go test that |
| 04:00:00 | Flynnn | Thanks :) |
| 04:00:00 | Flynnn | Wait |
| 04:00:00 | Flynnn | That's what hits ucrrently uses |
| 04:00:00 | Flynnn | ** this |
| 04:01:00 | Flynnn | ** currently |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | yeah... all the data needs to be wrapped specially in a NetObject of sorts |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | watusimoto, and sam686 understand the protocol stuff better than I |
| 04:01:00 | Flynnn | I'm thinking somewhere we could define a bunch of methods like: |
| 04:01:00 | Flynnn | SendMEssageToPlayer |
| 04:01:00 | Flynnn | And SendMessageToAll |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | ah... well, that sort of exists.. |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | let me find it.. |
| 04:02:00 | Flynnn | And it would automatically do all the iteration and type conversion needed |
| 04:04:00 | raptor | ahhh, NOW I understand what you want to do... |
| 04:04:00 | raptor | make some easier methods to call instead of allways doing the looping/etc. |
| 04:05:00 | Flynnn | Exactly |
| 04:05:00 | Flynnn | Just seems cleaner |
| 04:05:00 | raptor | ok ok - I am probably not your best reference on this :) |
| 04:05:00 | Flynnn | xD allright, I'll ask same and watusimoto |
| 04:05:00 | raptor | watusimoto would definitely be a better guide... |
| 04:05:00 | raptor | :) |
| 04:05:00 | Flynnn | ** minus sam |
| 04:05:00 | raptor | now i just need to remember what I was doing... |
| 04:05:00 | Flynnn | Allright, thanks a ton :) |
| 04:06:00 | Flynnn | Oen sec, I need to be AFK for a bit |
| 04:32:00 | Flynnn | Back |
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| 05:16:00 | zoomber | HAH! |
| 05:16:00 | zoomber | watusimoto: you on? |
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| 14:38:00 | raptor | so early... |
| 14:39:00 | raptor | hey sam686, I found out that SPEEX has acoustic echo cancellation support |
| 14:39:00 | watusimoto | sigh |
| 14:39:00 | raptor | sigh |
| 14:40:00 | raptor | lots of discussion on your post on SO, watusimoto |
| 14:42:00 | watusimoto | yeah, but not much consensus |
| 14:42:00 | raptor | nope |
| 14:46:00 | watusimoto | I'm favoring DeadMG's answer |
| 14:46:00 | raptor | just live with the casting and take the benefit of a smaller object at the top of the heirarchy? |
| 14:47:00 | watusimoto | yup |
| 14:48:00 | raptor | maybe give your question another full working day to see if anyone else comes up with something insightful |
| 14:49:00 | watusimoto | yup |
| 15:29:00 | watusimoto | just used const_cast<> for the first time |
| 15:29:00 | watusimoto | I feel dirty |
| 15:30:00 | raptor | i'm afraid I am not too familiar with the c++ casting world.. |
| 15:30:00 | watusimoto | http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/const_correctness.html |
| 15:31:00 | watusimoto | lets you take a const and modify it |
| 15:31:00 | raptor | that's evil |
| 15:46:00 | watusimoto | maybe this provides an escape |
| 15:46:00 | watusimoto | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/105014/c-mutable-keyword |
| 15:47:00 | raptor | interesting |
| 15:48:00 | watusimoto | I'm going to try that once I get this compiling again |
| 16:27:00 | watusimoto | 3 days with no ability to compile |
| 16:27:00 | watusimoto | working far too many hours on this |
| 16:28:00 | watusimoto | need to be packing |
| 16:28:00 | watusimoto | not hacking |
| 16:28:00 | raptor | you have a date yet? |
| 16:28:00 | watusimoto | nope |
| 16:29:00 | raptor | my wife moved from saudi arabia to new york once - I don't have any experience moving in/out of country |
| 16:31:00 | watusimoto | no problem can't be solved by throwing more money at it |
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| 19:44:00 | karamazovapy | I have won the internet - http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=764&p=5312#p5312 |
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| 20:11:00 | ZOOOOMBER | hello |
| 20:11:00 | ZOOOOMBER | hey raptor: you on? |
| 20:12:00 | karamazovapy | HEY ZOOOOMBER |
| 20:12:00 | karamazovapy | HOW YOU LIVIN B? |
| 20:13:00 | ZOOOOMBER | SUPER DUPER |
| 20:14:00 | ZOOOOMBER | brb |
| 20:16:00 | karamazovapy | oh - I made a zappy the happy bouncer particle |
| 20:35:00 | ZOOOOMBER | lol,...sweet |
| 20:36:00 | ZOOOOMBER | oh no..i cant view it! |
| 20:36:00 | ZOOOOMBER | says i dont have the required premissions to |
| 20:36:00 | ZOOOOMBER | oh maybe i should log in |
| 20:38:00 | karamazovapy | hahaha...bobdaduck isn't happy |
| 20:38:00 | ZOOOOMBER | lol |
| 20:39:00 | ZOOOOMBER | wow...if its ok with you, may i set that as my avatar? |
| 20:39:00 | karamazovapy | hah...go for it |
| 20:40:00 | karamazovapy | it's pretty small, though |
| 20:40:00 | ZOOOOMBER | works though |
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| 21:11:00 | zoooooomber | hi |
| 21:11:00 | zoooooomber | anyone know of a good ssh or vnc like service i can get for windows 7? |
| 21:12:00 | zoooooomber | i cant get vnc to run on my windows 7 server.. |
| 21:12:00 | raptor | i have succesfully installed an sshd task in cygwin and got it to boot in windows |
| 21:12:00 | raptor | let me try and find the linky |
| 21:12:00 | zoooooomber | does it require a restart in widnows? cant restart the computer atm |
| 21:13:00 | raptor | http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/cygwin-ssh.html |
| 21:13:00 | raptor | were the directions i used |
| 21:13:00 | raptor | note that this was 5 years ago |
| 21:13:00 | raptor | you'll probably have to figure a lot out on your own |
| 21:13:00 | zoooooomber | hmm |
| 21:13:00 | zoooooomber | does that work on 7? |
| 21:13:00 | zoooooomber | says for xp and 2000 |
| 21:13:00 | raptor | have no idea |
| 21:13:00 | zoooooomber | could run in compatability mode |
| 21:14:00 | raptor | sorry gotta go to a meeting... |
| 21:14:00 | raptor | be back a bit laterz |
| 21:17:00 | zoooooomber | ok |
| 21:17:00 | zoooooomber | bye |
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| 23:45:00 | zooooomber | hi |
| 23:45:00 | zooooomber | anyone at keyboard ? |
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