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| 00:17:00 | Zoomber | sam686 around? |
| 00:17:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 00:18:00 | Zoomber | wierd issue |
| 00:18:00 | Zoomber | i get linking errors building bitfighter on VPS, seems like it cant find speex framework, symbol errors, but i have libspeex and speex installed.. |
| 00:18:00 | Zoomber | and i dont even need speex.. |
| 00:18:00 | Zoomber | as, its dedicated |
| 00:19:00 | sam686 | maybe you need libspeex-dev or similar? |
| 00:20:00 | Zoomber | i put that on too |
| 00:20:00 | Zoomber | i put a lot of speex libraries i found online.. |
| 00:20:00 | Zoomber | still linking errors, even with make dedicated -B |
| 00:21:00 | Zoomber | would you like to see it for yourself? |
| 00:21:00 | sam686 | are you sure it is speex linking error or something else? |
| 00:21:00 | sam686 | ok |
| 00:21:00 | Zoomber | go on zap, im a bit uncomfortable about sending a password and ip over irc |
| 00:33:00 | karamazovapy | hey zoomber - want to try a project for me? |
| 00:34:00 | Zoomber | yessiranythingsir |
| 00:34:00 | karamazovapy | see if you can modify the code so that when you pick up a soccer ball, you "shoot" it the same way you shoot a burst |
| 00:34:00 | karamazovapy | instead of dropping it, you shoot it with the fire button and it goes where you're facing |
| 00:35:00 | Zoomber | ok.. |
| 00:35:00 | karamazovapy | just an idea |
| 00:35:00 | karamazovapy | if you look at it and it's a lot of work and you don't think it's worth playing around with, forget it |
| 00:36:00 | Zoomber | ill take a look |
| 00:36:00 | Zoomber | i like the idea |
| 00:36:00 | karamazovapy | dropping while flying always feels unnatural to me |
| 00:36:00 | karamazovapy | and it doesn't work well if you keep flying in the same direction |
| 00:37:00 | Zoomber | i think we should get rid of pickup all together |
| 00:37:00 | Zoomber | makes it feel more like "handball" to me |
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| 01:35:00 | raptor | howdy folks |
| 02:50:00 | Zoomber | howdey raptor |
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| 03:53:00 | Zoomber | hi |
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| 04:00:00 | zoomber_laptop | hmm, i wonder if i can change my account name from zoomber to Zoomber |
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| 04:03:00 | zoomber | raptor there? |
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| 04:05:00 | zoomber | hi |
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| 04:15:00 | Zoomber | hey raptor, are you there? |
| 04:23:00 | raptor | hi, back! |
| 04:23:00 | raptor | watching stargate with the wife.. |
| 04:24:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 04:24:00 | Zoomber | lol |
| 04:24:00 | raptor | i mean, i'm done |
| 04:24:00 | Zoomber | interesting, I dropped and reregistered my nick from zoomber to Zoomber |
| 04:25:00 | Zoomber | still not automatic thogh |
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| 04:25:00 | raptor | ok, now log off and back on again... |
| 04:25:00 | raptor | oh wait |
| 04:25:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 04:25:00 | Zoomber | ? |
| 04:25:00 | Zoomber | waiting |
| 04:25:00 | raptor | i think it isn't permanent |
| 04:26:00 | raptor | there was a way to make it permanent, but it was hard to find... |
| 04:26:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 04:26:00 | Zoomber | hmm |
| 04:27:00 | raptor | ok, i think i almost found it - which nick to you want to register with? |
| 04:27:00 | Zoomber | is it /msg chanserv flags #channelname [nick] [access] ? |
| 04:27:00 | karamazovapy | is the zoomber guest around? |
| 04:27:00 | Zoomber | Zoomber now |
| 04:28:00 | karamazovapy | ooooh...the real zoomber |
| 04:28:00 | Zoomber | i was trying to drop my account nickname |
| 04:28:00 | Zoomber | and was trying all sorts of commands, untill i figured out it was /msg nickserv drop nickname |
| 04:28:00 | karamazovapy | even better if raptor is here too |
| 04:28:00 | raptor | ok, now try logging on and then off |
| 04:28:00 | raptor | what did i do? |
| 04:28:00 | raptor | (this time) |
| 04:28:00 | Zoomber | one of them was /msg nickserv release, which changed all my instatnces of zoomebr to guest |
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| 04:29:00 | karamazovapy | I didn't get any opinions when I solicited them earlier |
| 04:29:00 | raptor | about? |
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| 04:29:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 04:29:00 | Zoomber | there we go |
| 04:29:00 | karamazovapy | regarding having a vote for "favorite" map |
| 04:29:00 | raptor | ha! it worked |
| 04:29:00 | Zoomber | cool |
| 04:29:00 | Zoomber | did you do /msg chanserv flags #channelname [nick] [access]? |
| 04:29:00 | raptor | yep |
| 04:29:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 04:29:00 | raptor | I kinda like the favorite map idea |
| 04:30:00 | Zoomber | i guess i have to admit |
| 04:30:00 | Zoomber | i sort of just a bit more now like irc better than skype |
| 04:30:00 | Zoomber | but just BARLEY ... |
| 04:30:00 | raptor | haha |
| 04:30:00 | Zoomber | it has alot of commands, ill give you that |
| 04:30:00 | karamazovapy | irc is like a swiss army knife |
| 04:31:00 | Zoomber | yes, and hg is like james bond too.. |
| 04:31:00 | raptor | so i would say one map would win the contest because it fit the rules, then another map would win based on all submitted maps including rule breakers |
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| 04:32:00 | raptor | haha |
| 04:33:00 | Zoomber | do we need it? i put a # before atom_feed |
| 04:33:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: maybe an honorable mention winner? |
| 04:33:00 | Zoomber | it can hang around incase the normal logbot is down |
| 04:33:00 | Zoomber | raptor: like airlock? |
| 04:33:00 | karamazovapy | well it's a difference between quality and appreciation |
| 04:33:00 | raptor | airlock was great! |
| 04:33:00 | Zoomber | honorable mention, airlock, deserves your vote! |
| 04:34:00 | karamazovapy | and also, it allows filler maps |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | Zoomber: make IncludeFeed = false in the config file, also, shorten the bot name - some IRC clients hate long names |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: i like the idea |
| 04:34:00 | Zoomber | oh yes, this is my present to koda, shortening the botname |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | especially if we have a map making turnout like this |
| 04:35:00 | Zoomber | oh raptor: i just #d out include feed before, does that work? |
| 04:35:00 | Zoomber | !help |
| 04:35:00 | BFLogBot2 | type !commands to see a list of commands |
| 04:35:00 | BFBackupLogBot | type !commands to see a list of commands |
| 04:35:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 04:35:00 | Zoomber | guess that answers it |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | yeah, if you comment out IncludeFeed, it should work, too |
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| 04:36:00 | | Topic is 'Latest release 015a http://bitfighter.org | Forums: http://bitfighter.org/forums/ | GC Project: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/' |
| 04:36:00 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Sat Apr 30 22:51:58 PDT 2011 |
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| 04:37:00 | Zoomber | darn, the name is sitll long |
| 04:37:00 | raptor | haha, but karamazovapy still wins for longest name |
| 04:37:00 | karamazovapy | !commands |
| 04:37:00 | BFLogBot | Commands: airlock bbb bitfighter bot bug dedicated feature help hg log mercurial ninja watusimoto |
| 04:37:00 | ALTlogbot | Commands: bbb bitfighter bot bug dedicated feature help hg log mercurial raptor time watusimoto zoomber |
| 04:37:00 | Zoomber | hmm |
| 04:37:00 | Zoomber | my name became bold there |
| 04:38:00 | raptor | just in your client |
| 04:38:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 04:38:00 | raptor | not in mine |
| 04:38:00 | karamazovapy | there seems to be some discrepancy |
| 04:38:00 | Zoomber | right* |
| 04:38:00 | Zoomber | !ninja |
| 04:38:00 | BFLogBot | ninjas die in space |
| 04:38:00 | Zoomber | !zoomber |
| 04:38:00 | ALTlogbot | just a random dude out about wandering around |
| 04:38:00 | karamazovapy | (masturbating) |
| 04:38:00 | Zoomber | so you have ninja, and I have zoomber/raptor |
| 04:38:00 | Zoomber | and you have airlock |
| 04:39:00 | karamazovapy | (masturbating) |
| 04:39:00 | Zoomber | fantastic |
| 04:39:00 | karamazovapy | masturbating! |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: weren't we on the subject of contest winners? |
| 04:39:00 | karamazovapy | we were, at one point |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | so, you are really thinking about doing a contest every other month with the BBBs? |
| 04:40:00 | karamazovapy | well we've been on hiatus for quite a while, and response has been really good so far |
| 04:40:00 | karamazovapy | so we'll see how voting goes for this month |
| 04:41:00 | raptor | we've had a few more vocal forum members, too.. |
| 04:41:00 | karamazovapy | if it's as good as the entry response, I think we can seriously consider bimonthly level contests |
| 04:41:00 | Zoomber | time to work on my submission! got to implement my new idea |
| 04:44:00 | raptor | haha, who is stinkypete? |
| 04:44:00 | raptor | ah, it's gotta be _k |
| 04:48:00 | karamazovapy | just browsed my local craigslist page. two of the last five posts advertise their status as carriers of herpes. |
| 04:49:00 | Zoomber | LOL |
| 04:49:00 | raptor | wonderful |
| 04:50:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, I think I smell love. |
| 04:50:00 | karamazovapy | I mean, I guess if I were responding, I would appreciate that they put that out there up front. |
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| 04:51:00 | karamazovapy | but if I had the herp, I might just pack it in. |
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| 04:51:00 | Zoomber | update complete |
| 04:51:00 | raptor | that was quick |
| 04:51:00 | karamazovapy | that's what she said! |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: are you feeling ok tonight? |
| 04:52:00 | Zoomber | OH COMON |
| 04:52:00 | Zoomber | they MISSED it |
| 04:52:00 | Zoomber | it didnt fix it! |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | still revert to TCP? |
| 04:52:00 | karamazovapy | I've been pretty childish today |
| 04:52:00 | Zoomber | i select type, and select UDP, and apply changes. After i go back there, it still says Type: TCP\ |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | did you teach a class? |
| 04:52:00 | karamazovapy | I had a disappointment fairly early in the afternoon, and I've been churlish ever since |
| 04:53:00 | raptor | Zoomber: is there an 'apply' as well as 'save'? |
| 04:53:00 | Zoomber | sadly no |
| 04:53:00 | karamazovapy | I got in a squabble with blackbird, but I think that was because he's been fussed ever since he published his contest entry |
| 04:53:00 | Zoomber | oooooh, theres a mac adress filtering list! |
| 04:54:00 | raptor | poor blackbird |
| 04:54:00 | karamazovapy | eh. not really. he's kind of a tweenish dick. |
| 04:55:00 | Zoomber | yes, he was not on his best behavior in my server today |
| 04:55:00 | karamazovapy | these tweens drive me up the wall...footloose, blackbird, random insanity... |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | mac address filtering is great - unless you use wireless.. |
| 04:55:00 | karamazovapy | lone wolf, I assume |
| 04:56:00 | raptor | wireless people can sniff your mac address and spoof it easier than breaking encryption |
| 04:56:00 | Zoomber | raptor: SELF HEALING |
| 04:56:00 | Zoomber | aparently, i can schedule the router to "re-initializationisze" itself |
| 04:56:00 | raptor | so karamazovapy, what you're saying is we need more 30ish people in bitfighter? (like myself!) |
| 04:57:00 | karamazovapy | I'd settle for highschool+ |
| 04:57:00 | Zoomber | just go to belkin.com. my router is on their front page, its the 750DB one, you HAVE to get it |
| 04:57:00 | raptor | i'll take a look |
| 04:58:00 | Zoomber | haha! free tech support too |
| 04:58:00 | Zoomber | 24 hours |
| 04:58:00 | karamazovapy | our afternoon/early evening game re-emphasized the idea that we need to make adding bots a higher-level privilege, though |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | Zoomber: didn't watusimoto suggest adding an INI option to make admin required for adding bots? |
| 04:59:00 | Zoomber | Yes please |
| 04:59:00 | Zoomber | actually |
| 04:59:00 | Zoomber | oh crap |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | so it would default to admin, but you could reduce the privilege |
| 04:59:00 | Zoomber | watusimoto asked me to try and do that already |
| 04:59:00 | Zoomber | and i frogot. eeeeee |
| 04:59:00 | Zoomber | i started it and didnt finish |
| 05:00:00 | karamazovapy | I wish we could just trust people |
| 05:00:00 | Zoomber | on Yes, it requires admin, on no, it requires levelchange |
| 05:00:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: i get into that ideal world in my head every once in a while, too |
| 05:00:00 | raptor | Zoomber: correct, I think.. |
| 05:00:00 | karamazovapy | we clearly can't, though |
| 05:00:00 | raptor | nope |
| 05:01:00 | raptor | we're too many generations deep into leaving things like courtesy on roadside |
| 05:01:00 | raptor | but that's a discussion for elsewhere |
| 05:01:00 | raptor | :) |
| 05:02:00 | raptor | Zoomber: if you need help, I'll be up for a little while longer |
| 05:04:00 | karamazovapy | I really like the Quicksilver levelgen |
| 05:04:00 | karamazovapy | it's subtle |
| 05:04:00 | Zoomber | actually, they are talking to me through tech support! |
| 05:04:00 | raptor | which server has that? |
| 05:04:00 | Zoomber | and a router is a one time purchase, not a month to month! |
| 05:04:00 | Zoomber | belkin.com. its great! |
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| 05:31:00 | raptor | well good night |
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| 05:43:00 | zoomber_laptop | aww raptor left |
| 05:50:00 | zoomber_laptop | so, my sneaky servers have flipped their ports have they! |
| 06:02:00 | zoomber_laptop | karamazovapy still there? |
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| 06:37:00 | Zoomber | hi watusimoto |
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| 15:02:00 | raptor | i can't believe everyone is playing this early in the morning.. |
| 15:46:00 | Zoomber | aaah im back good morning raptor |
| 15:46:00 | raptor | good morning |
| 15:47:00 | LordDVG | it 5:46 PM in my time zone |
| 15:47:00 | LordDVG | :D |
| 15:47:00 | raptor | good evening! |
| 15:48:00 | LordDVG | so good morning :) |
| 15:48:00 | Zoomber | not me, im just dropping in to say hello. I'm volunteering at a food pantry down in west hollwood in 20 minutes |
| 15:48:00 | raptor | cool |
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| 16:18:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 94d728961b81 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Fix game parameter menu problem showing outdated data after changing levels |
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| 16:55:00 | watusimoto | I always saw pickup as an experiment... if it doesn't improve the game, we should remove it |
| 16:56:00 | raptor | karamazovapy suggested when you shot out a pick-up, it behaves like burst |
| 17:11:00 | watusimoto | I don't understand that at all |
| 17:12:00 | raptor | I almost never play soccer, so I don't think i'm a good proponent/opponent |
| 17:13:00 | watusimoto | I just don't understand the suggestion |
| 17:15:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: enlightenment? |
| 17:16:00 | watusimoto | oh, maybe he means the ball has the same movement pattern as a burst -- zooming out forward, then slowing to a stop? |
| 17:17:00 | raptor | i don't know, i was just repeating his words: |
| 17:18:00 | raptor | <karamazovapy> see if you can modify the code so that when you pick up a soccer ball, you "shoot" it the same way you shoot a burst |
| 17:18:00 | raptor | [0:34] <karamazovapy> instead of dropping it, you shoot it with the fire button and it goes where you're facing |
| 17:40:00 | sam686 | when you pick up a soccer ball, you "shoot" it the same way you shoot a burst -- it already does that in 015a i think, but there is a 1 second delay, then you can "SHOOT" soccer, but it does not go fast... |
| 17:40:00 | raptor | yeah, jsut tested - it does already 'shoot' |
| 17:40:00 | raptor | but not like bursts deceleration |
| 17:42:00 | sam686 | yes, it does not go as fast as bullets, and soccer ball decelerate at about the same rate as resource item and bouncy item.. |
| 17:43:00 | sam686 | and, keep in mind joysticks don't have a "BUTTON" to fire, instead joystick fires at where you aiming with joystick.. |
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| 17:58:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit a4d564c9dd8d | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Minor cleanup |
| 17:58:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 23d8f79a0b38 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Disentangle UI actions from some of the other classes -- they should deal with clientGame only, and let that interact with the various UIs. That will help toward our goal of getting UI code out of places where it doesn't belong. |
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| 18:03:00 | raptor | is disentangle a word? |
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| 18:26:00 | raptor | yay watusimoto for removing UI code from server game |
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| 22:36:00 | Zoomber | wrong. joysticks only fire when analog pointer is all the way out, but can still aim without firing if analog is only pushed a little bit out in any direction |
| 22:51:00 | Zoomber | axiom keyboard. works like a charm |
| 22:52:00 | Zoomber | i wonder if i can play bitfighter with it :o |
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| 23:54:00 | Zoomber | raptor? |
| 23:54:00 | raptor | hi |
| 23:55:00 | raptor | I'm going home soon and won't be back until later tonight.. |
| 23:55:00 | Zoomber | ok |