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| 00:06:00 | ZoomberImac | hi sam686 |
| 00:06:00 | ZoomberImac | hi karamazovapy |
| 00:06:00 | ZoomberImac | hi koda |
| 00:06:00 | ZoomberImac | flynnn.. |
| 00:07:00 | sam686 | hi |
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| 01:16:00 | Zoomber | hey raptor |
| 01:17:00 | Zoomber | when-ever you are free, can you try putting the mac 10.4 virtual machine up on the vps too? the last one i got was incomplete unfortonatley |
| 01:17:00 | Zoomber | if you can* in no hurry |
| 01:17:00 | raptor | ok, but it's way large |
| 01:18:00 | Zoomber | 4 GB? |
| 01:18:00 | raptor | yeah, something like that |
| 01:18:00 | Zoomber | oh yeah, i remember now.. |
| 01:18:00 | Zoomber | its 4.7 i think... |
| 01:18:00 | Zoomber | for a clean install |
| 01:18:00 | Zoomber | i may still have tiger. packed and dusty somewhere |
| 01:20:00 | sam686 | you might want to compare and deside what compression you use. look at the comparison o found: http://blog.terzza.com/linux-compression-comparison-gzip-vs-bzip2-vs-lzma-vs-zip-vs-compress/ |
| 01:20:00 | raptor | lzma is best |
| 01:20:00 | Zoomber | how about 49z ? |
| 01:20:00 | raptor | especially when considering the decompression speed |
| 01:20:00 | sam686 | i have 7z, which uses lzma. |
| 01:20:00 | raptor | 49z? |
| 01:20:00 | Zoomber | square the power of 7z |
| 01:21:00 | raptor | haha |
| 01:21:00 | raptor | it probably uses lzma2 |
| 01:21:00 | Zoomber | ooh i bgot one! |
| 01:21:00 | Zoomber | how about, dropstuff? |
| 01:21:00 | Zoomber | :] |
| 01:22:00 | raptor | ha! |
| 01:23:00 | raptor | always remember the container is different than the codec |
| 01:23:00 | raptor | 7z can have gzip bzip2 lzma and a ton of others in it |
| 01:24:00 | raptor | Zoomber: want me to put it on that same VPS? |
| 01:24:00 | sam686 | might want to fix sam686 [IP:127.0.0.1:33943] quit [2011-08-28 Sun 18:55:27] (56.00 secs) (always shows ??.00 seconds, the decimal is always zero) |
| 01:25:00 | Zoomber | any vps will do! |
| 01:25:00 | raptor | that's the only one to which I have creds |
| 01:25:00 | raptor | so that will have to be.. |
| 01:26:00 | raptor | transferring... |
| 01:26:00 | Zoomber | want credentials to all of them? |
| 01:26:00 | raptor | nah |
| 01:26:00 | raptor | i have too many servers and creds swimming in my head as it is... |
| 01:26:00 | Zoomber | ok haha |
| 01:26:00 | Zoomber | hmm |
| 01:26:00 | raptor | you know what game is hard |
| 01:26:00 | raptor | xmoto |
| 01:26:00 | Zoomber | my logbot is still alive! |
| 01:27:00 | raptor | my kid loves to watch me crash |
| 01:27:00 | Zoomber | brb |
| 01:27:00 | Zoomber | lol |
| 01:35:00 | raptor | just so you know bzip2 is atrocious |
| 01:35:00 | raptor | it has good compression, but decompression is super slow |
| 01:36:00 | raptor | its usually faster to to gzip compress than bzip because the overhead in size will be transferred faster than you can decompress bzip2 |
| 01:48:00 | ZoomberImac | ok |
| 01:48:00 | ZoomberImac | well |
| 01:48:00 | ZoomberImac | would compression speed depend on soley hard drive speed or cpu speed? |
| 01:49:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: virtual machine running, and its SO awesome |
| 01:49:00 | ZoomberImac | vmbox lets me scale windows too |
| 01:56:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: is it possible for me to start wget while your uploading the file? |
| 01:57:00 | ZoomberImac | or a file transfer fo the vmdisk? |
| 01:57:00 | ZoomberImac | note: my internet probably MUCH slower than yours, so in no way could or would i speed up to you :) |
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| 02:03:00 | raptor | Zoomber: compression is largely due to CPU, but on rare occasions be bottlenecked by HD speed |
| 02:03:00 | raptor | also, you could start wget, but I don't recommend it - it's at 72% as it is.. |
| 02:17:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 02:17:00 | Zoomber | sweeeet |
| 02:17:00 | | Zoomber_laptop has joined |
| 02:17:00 | Zoomber | very strong 2.7GHZ i5 cpu |
| 02:17:00 | Zoomber | so , might be ok for me.. |
| 02:17:00 | raptor | ok it is done transferring... and checksum matches |
| 02:18:00 | raptor | its actually 1.9 GB |
| 02:18:00 | Zoomber | to raptor and sam686: It seems like I may retire my IBM untill i absolutley need it again |
| 02:18:00 | raptor | the 10.6 vm was 4gb |
| 02:18:00 | raptor | goodbye ibm |
| 02:18:00 | Zoomber | no longer will there be a zoomber, only a zoomber_laptop and a zoomberimac left |
| 02:18:00 | Zoomber | found out it has a mini-display to vga port on it |
| 02:18:00 | Zoomber | so going to go dual-monitor with the desktop |
| 02:19:00 | Zoomber | and half the imac is faster than the IBM, so really no need for it |
| 02:19:00 | Zoomber | i suppose i can open it up again with ubuntu command line and put some bitfighter stuff on it later :D |
| 02:20:00 | Zoomber_laptop | wow, this is tearfull. i'm gonna miss the old thing |
| 02:20:00 | Zoomber_laptop | gotta make sure i dont put it an a too dusty place |
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| 02:26:00 | sam686 | \ |
| 02:27:00 | Zoomber_laptop | hey raptor: im going to give my old old old ibook to a friend who makes tar-art out of stuff |
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| 02:53:00 | Zoomber_laptop | wow raptor, it seems my computer fan is really dusty when i look at it in the wind |
| 02:53:00 | Zoomber_laptop | imean when i look at it in the light |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | hi |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | back |
| 02:54:00 | Zoomber_laptop | it isnt a bad idea if i use a pressurised air-can to blow the wind off of the fan is it? |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | yeah, dust can really be a problem |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | nope, should be fine |
| 02:54:00 | Zoomber_laptop | it would probably push the dust inward though |
| 02:54:00 | Zoomber_laptop | so now its just ontop of other stuff intead of fan |
| 02:54:00 | Zoomber_laptop | i want to push it outward, but not sure how to reach fan |
| 02:54:00 | Zoomber_laptop | oh |
| 02:54:00 | Zoomber_laptop | lets see, i think i know |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | you want to get it to exit.. |
| 02:55:00 | Zoomber_laptop | yes |
| 02:56:00 | Zoomber_laptop | luckily my IBM have two buttons to open top of desktop case |
| 02:56:00 | Zoomber_laptop | i see the fan unit |
| 02:56:00 | Zoomber_laptop | maybe i can just push air in and see if it goes out the fan? |
| 02:56:00 | raptor | it probably will, at least a little bit |
| 02:56:00 | Zoomber_laptop | not really in the mood to open that whole unit out |
| 02:56:00 | raptor | but its good to do it outside |
| 02:56:00 | raptor | so the dust doesn't go into the room |
| 02:57:00 | Zoomber_laptop | oh |
| 02:57:00 | Zoomber_laptop | thanks for telling me that |
| 02:57:00 | Zoomber_laptop | i almost did it right infront of my laptop! |
| 02:57:00 | Zoomber_laptop | ok, be rifght back |
| 02:58:00 | raptor | taking a break for a little while... |
| 02:58:00 | Zoomber_laptop | me too! |
| 02:58:00 | Zoomber_laptop | a fun one |
| 02:58:00 | Zoomber_laptop | ! |
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| 03:23:00 | ZoomberImac | sorry sam686; had to eat food |
| 03:23:00 | ZoomberImac | on now |
| 03:24:00 | ZoomberImac | it seems like bitfighter sam686 is ping timed out for me.. sam686 disable port forwarding? |
| 03:24:00 | ZoomberImac | oh, the server went out |
| 03:24:00 | ZoomberImac | moving server to VPS? |
| 03:24:00 | sam686 | i am updating my server with some code changes.., maybe i can.. |
| 03:24:00 | sam686 | move to vps |
| 03:25:00 | ZoomberImac | ok |
| 03:25:00 | ZoomberImac | i suppose it would be a good time, as nobody is on server currently.. |
| 03:26:00 | ZoomberImac | would you like me to kill <gibbed> and move it to 96 server so theres more power for bitfighter Sam686? |
| 03:27:00 | ZoomberImac | wow raptor: nice compression |
| 03:31:00 | ZoomberImac | solid 300 KB/second |
| 03:33:00 | sam686 | 300 KB = 2400 Kbps = 2.4 Mbps (i think). my upload speed is 5 Mbps, download at about 30 Mbps.. |
| 03:36:00 | ZoomberImac | yes |
| 03:36:00 | ZoomberImac | my download speed cpas at 3008 KB/s |
| 03:37:00 | ZoomberImac | its rediculous but oh well |
| 03:37:00 | ZoomberImac | might be good for sam686 to have 100 mbps speeds instead of 30 mbps and 5 mbps for a bitfighter server? |
| 03:38:00 | sam686 | yes, and also probably less ping / lag spikes.. |
| 03:38:00 | sam686 | in VPs |
| 03:38:00 | ZoomberImac | yes |
| 03:38:00 | ZoomberImac | plus, time ticks still good |
| 03:38:00 | sam686 | dir |
| 03:39:00 | ZoomberImac | dir? |
| 03:39:00 | ZoomberImac | meant to type in command line? |
| 03:39:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 03:42:00 | ZoomberImac | i see.. |
| 03:43:00 | ZoomberImac | can also do "ls" |
| 03:43:00 | ZoomberImac | ls usefull on the ubuntu server as it color-codes folders and executables |
| 03:43:00 | ZoomberImac | for example, "aa.png" turns up pink |
| 03:45:00 | ZoomberImac | file transfer 17% done |
| 03:56:00 | koda | Omg u talking about giving away a mac and I'm not there??? |
| 03:57:00 | ZoomberImac | ja |
| 03:58:00 | ZoomberImac | but its kind-of not worth much... |
| 03:58:00 | ZoomberImac | koda: |
| 04:00:00 | koda | How so |
| 04:01:00 | ZoomberImac | its an old ibook g3 512 MB ram 754 or something mhz cpu broken hard drive...' |
| 04:01:00 | ZoomberImac | brb |
| 04:05:00 | koda | Is it one with the colored shells? |
| 04:09:00 | ZoomberImac | no |
| 04:09:00 | ZoomberImac | its a laptop |
| 04:09:00 | ZoomberImac | http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/public/tNBJ-FEkLNw3cxQeAa4kDsl3N0kAYrgVl1AvoiXU6WtW0Z6AnZQd8cojAp0DAoIg11UKVXKzdobloeeBRHdUf4yjbeg76L08AERfGVCF-LYKW7qjykhwqIk5qZdq6Q |
| 04:10:00 | ZoomberImac | oh wow, that one is 172 dollars |
| 04:24:00 | koda | Well could be nice to see if bit fighter runs on that ;) |
| 04:28:00 | koda | I once tired Hedgewars on a g4 |
| 04:39:00 | ZoomberImac | it does, i thin |
| 04:39:00 | ZoomberImac | k |
| 04:39:00 | ZoomberImac | at least zap! did |
| 04:39:00 | ZoomberImac | koda: do you want it? |
| 04:40:00 | ZoomberImac | not really worth much, because only about 1% of the hard drive still functions, but take out the hard drive, use efi and make it a network-boot computer, and you have a good to go cloud mac |
| 04:45:00 | koda | nah i'll pass ;) |
| 04:57:00 | ZoomberImac | good! thought so |
| 04:57:00 | raptor | good night all |
| 04:59:00 | sam686 | my ISP may be starting maintenance or something right now that might make me get disconnected from internet, mut my internet will be back 6 hours after now.. |
| 04:59:00 | sam686 | nut = but (misspelled) |
| 05:18:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: got the |
| 05:18:00 | ZoomberImac | um |
| 05:18:00 | ZoomberImac | oh |
| 05:18:00 | ZoomberImac | vmdisk! |
| 05:25:00 | ZoomberImac | why do i always keep being asked to download something when going to http://bitfighter.org/ ? |
| 05:25:00 | ZoomberImac | http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4029/screenshot20110828at652.png |
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| 05:35:00 | ZoomberImac | bye sam686 |
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| 15:23:00 | raptor | good morning sam686 |
| 15:25:00 | sam686 | i had to go to my router, and hit "Renew DHCP", and then my internet starts working right after that. But then my IP address changed to 208.107.52.15 |
| 15:25:00 | raptor | oh no! |
| 15:25:00 | raptor | no more 96... |
| 15:30:00 | sam686 | i did fix some of links in forum, especially my avatar link.. But there is one place in forum I can't fix myself. The screenshot is pointing to 96.2.123.136, which is now dead. I still have the screenshot: http://208.107.52.15/upload/111snapshot24.png |
| 15:31:00 | sam686 | it is in http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=667#p4396 |
| 15:32:00 | raptor | fixed :) |
| 15:32:00 | sam686 | good |
| 15:33:00 | raptor | i have a question |
| 15:33:00 | raptor | gameConnection.cpp |
| 15:33:00 | raptor | uses mClientGame in the constructor |
| 15:34:00 | raptor | but the ClientGame.h is within the ifndef ZAP_DEDICATED |
| 15:34:00 | sam686 | mClientGame is a pointer.. |
| 15:34:00 | raptor | yes |
| 15:34:00 | raptor | ClientGame is forward declared in gameConnection.h |
| 15:35:00 | sam686 | i guess i can make it ZAP_DEDICATED for mClientGame |
| 15:35:00 | raptor | gameConnection.cpp:1022 |
| 15:36:00 | raptor | uses mClientGame outside of a ifndef |
| 15:36:00 | raptor | so dedicated compile fails |
| 15:39:00 | sam686 | i will need to update my project files for some .cpp changes while fixing dedicated compile.. |
| 15:41:00 | raptor | i think ideally we should get it to compile with out needed the ifndefs... |
| 15:42:00 | raptor | some day |
| 15:43:00 | raptor | but that would probably making a lot of the classes even more modular |
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| 16:07:00 | raptor | thanks sam |
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| 17:40:00 | sam686 | spy bugs destroyes asteroids when spybug blows up.. |
| 17:41:00 | raptor | hooray! |
| 17:41:00 | raptor | have they always done that? |
| 17:41:00 | sam686 | yes for 015 |
| 17:47:00 | raptor | great! |
| 17:47:00 | raptor | new use for spy bug :) |
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| 18:11:00 | ZoomberImac | hi |
| 18:11:00 | raptor | hello |
| 18:16:00 | ZoomberImac | hey raptor, i am having troubles with your mac os x vmdisk |
| 18:16:00 | raptor | i wouldn't doubt it |
| 18:17:00 | ZoomberImac | it loads kernal cache file, and then has a cpu panic |
| 18:17:00 | raptor | apple locked down virtualizing Mac OS X |
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| 18:17:00 | raptor | i had to hack vmware binaries to get it to work Apple specifically required vmware to disable any mac os x VM |
| 18:17:00 | ZoomberImac | "PASSED!....maximum protection of compage set of ALL |
| 18:17:00 | raptor | the same might happen with vbox |
| 18:18:00 | raptor | you'll have to do research |
| 18:18:00 | ZoomberImac | oh |
| 18:18:00 | ZoomberImac | well i can run it |
| 18:18:00 | ZoomberImac | but i get cpu panics ... |
| 18:18:00 | raptor | yes |
| 18:18:00 | raptor | same with vmware |
| 18:18:00 | ZoomberImac | oh |
| 18:18:00 | ZoomberImac | virtual box dropped tiger with the 3.1 release |
| 18:19:00 | ZoomberImac | if only vmware were free... |
| 18:19:00 | raptor | it is |
| 18:19:00 | ZoomberImac | although besides this, virtual box is pretty great, considering its free |
| 18:19:00 | raptor | not the workstation |
| 18:19:00 | ZoomberImac | vmware is free? |
| 18:20:00 | raptor | yes, they have a free version that let's you play any VM |
| 18:20:00 | raptor | not create them, though |
| 18:20:00 | ZoomberImac | whats it called? |
| 18:20:00 | raptor | let me look again... |
| 18:21:00 | raptor | vmware server |
| 18:21:00 | raptor | gives you a little creation control |
| 18:21:00 | raptor | vmware player is just a player |
| 18:21:00 | raptor | both are free |
| 18:22:00 | raptor | vmware workstation is not free, and it has a lot of extra features |
| 18:23:00 | raptor | her eis the server: http://downloads.vmware.com/d/info/datacenter_downloads/vmware_server/2_0 |
| 18:23:00 | raptor | it still requires a license key, but they give you a free one |
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| 18:28:00 | ZoomberImac | trying |
| 18:28:00 | raptor | when you get it installed, you have to 'unlock' it |
| 18:29:00 | raptor | what OS are you running it on? |
| 18:30:00 | ZoomberImac | SL |
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| 18:30:00 | raptor | ? |
| 18:30:00 | raptor | Suse Linux? |
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| 18:32:00 | ZoomberImac | what os am i running vmware on? |
| 18:33:00 | raptor | yes |
| 18:33:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: all my computers are macs |
| 18:33:00 | raptor | ok |
| 18:33:00 | ZoomberImac | besides the IBM, and that was mac too |
| 18:33:00 | raptor | haha |
| 18:33:00 | raptor | then you may not need to unlock vmware to virtualize other macs |
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| 18:34:00 | ZoomberImac | i keep trying to log in to downlaod it |
| 18:34:00 | ZoomberImac | and i cant |
| 18:34:00 | ZoomberImac | note: the efi stage loads fine |
| 18:34:00 | ZoomberImac | ill send you a screenshot, maybe you can see if this is where you got before you unlocked yours or not |
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| 18:34:00 | raptor | i don't remember |
| 18:34:00 | sam686 | note that my IP address have changed.. |
| 18:34:00 | raptor | it was half a year aog |
| 18:34:00 | raptor | aog |
| 18:35:00 | raptor | ago |
| 18:35:00 | ZoomberImac | sam686: noting |
| 18:35:00 | sam686 | try 208.107.52.15 |
| 18:35:00 | ZoomberImac | http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6343/screenshot20110829at113.png |
| 18:35:00 | raptor | ZoomberImac: you already said vbox dropped support |
| 18:36:00 | ZoomberImac | yes |
| 18:36:00 | ZoomberImac | oh right |
| 18:36:00 | sam686 | my ip address 96.2.123.136 have changes to 208.107.52.15 |
| 18:36:00 | ZoomberImac | however, I dont know what they mean by "Support" |
| 18:36:00 | ZoomberImac | i'm having trouble downloading vmware server. when-ever i login or register to download it, it just takes me back to the index page not logged in |
| 18:36:00 | raptor | it most likely means they killed the compatibility code to reduce maintenance |
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| 18:36:00 | raptor | use a different browser |
| 18:37:00 | ZoomberImac | i dont know why i dont just think of that... |
| 18:37:00 | raptor | haha |
| 18:37:00 | raptor | i have 5 browsers i keep handy at work... |
| 18:38:00 | raptor | because when developing code for the web, you need to make sure it runs on all of them |
| 18:38:00 | raptor | so I frequently run into browser compatibility problems, and it is second nature to just use a different browser |
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| 18:39:00 | ZoomberImac | ok |
| 18:39:00 | raptor | watusimoto keeps forking... |
| 18:40:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: it looks as if they dont have one fo rmac |
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| 18:40:00 | raptor | what |
| 18:40:00 | ZoomberImac | maybe I can run vmware on my virtual machine? like computer in computer in computer? |
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| 18:42:00 | raptor | ah. it's a different product for mac |
| 18:42:00 | raptor | because you mac people will pay handsomely for having a mac :) |
| 18:42:00 | ZoomberImac | i told you~!! |
| 18:42:00 | ZoomberImac | vmware fusion was what i had a wihle ago |
| 18:42:00 | raptor | man |
| 18:42:00 | raptor | that stinks |
| 18:43:00 | ZoomberImac | now, why cant they make a 'Unix' version as well? |
| 18:43:00 | raptor | well... |
| 18:43:00 | ZoomberImac | oh well, it was worth a shot |
| 18:43:00 | ZoomberImac | actually, i have an idea |
| 18:44:00 | ZoomberImac | ooh, i have a great idea |
| 18:46:00 | raptor | haha, i love it - mac users are totally milked for all they're worth |
| 18:47:00 | ZoomberImac | i'm trying to use efi-cracking software I used for my ibm |
| 18:47:00 | ZoomberImac | it supplied all the stuff required for mac to boot |
| 18:47:00 | ZoomberImac | including DSMOS |
| 18:48:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: i can go native ubuntu or windows on my imac |
| 18:48:00 | ZoomberImac | i have done before |
| 18:49:00 | ZoomberImac | only issue is with apples forsaken efi and partition system, its really easy to mess things up |
| 18:50:00 | ZoomberImac | its not like compiling bitfighter and it saying "Error! "TNL" is not declared", its like compiling bitfighter with the error and running a mal-foremd application that takes over the earth |
| 18:50:00 | sam686 | complaining at apple? |
| 18:51:00 | ZoomberImac | i dont really need to complain. If i really want to virtualize tiger, i can run linux nativley on my imac and do what raptor is doing... |
| 18:51:00 | ZoomberImac | i just like virtualbox, because i want my main OS to be osx |
| 18:52:00 | raptor | ZoomberImac: what version of vbox do you have? |
| 18:52:00 | ZoomberImac | 4.1.2 |
| 18:52:00 | raptor | ose? |
| 18:52:00 | raptor | (open-source edition) |
| 18:54:00 | ZoomberImac | the one immediately under the header http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads |
| 18:55:00 | raptor | ah ok |
| 18:55:00 | ZoomberImac | oh no! my centos system is out of memory |
| 18:55:00 | ZoomberImac | ooh... i only gave it 12 MB of video memory, and 512 mb of ram |
| 18:58:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: do you virtualize Snow leopard as well? |
| 18:58:00 | raptor | yes |
| 18:58:00 | ZoomberImac | interesting |
| 18:58:00 | ZoomberImac | do you ever update it? |
| 18:58:00 | raptor | sure |
| 18:59:00 | raptor | there was one update 10.6.3, i think that broke compatibility |
| 18:59:00 | raptor | but they added it back to 10.6.4 |
| 18:59:00 | ZoomberImac | so your at 10.6.7? |
| 18:59:00 | raptor | i don't know... |
| 18:59:00 | raptor | let me check |
| 18:59:00 | ZoomberImac | look at your dock: if you have the App store app, your there |
| 18:59:00 | ZoomberImac | i'm curious to see if it works |
| 18:59:00 | raptor | ok, i don't have it then |
| 19:00:00 | ZoomberImac | ah ok |
| 19:00:00 | ZoomberImac | ubuntu looks like it could be a paid os |
| 19:00:00 | raptor | looks are deceiving |
| 19:01:00 | ZoomberImac | feels like? |
| 19:01:00 | raptor | most linux distributions do |
| 19:01:00 | raptor | if they run on your hardware... |
| 19:05:00 | ZoomberImac | wow! almost 4 GB used on my system |
| 19:05:00 | ZoomberImac | i thought it would be a while be-fore i reached that |
| 19:07:00 | sam686 | 016 problem, press tab while hoding down F2, the bottom color turns green, then back to red for "Presss [F2] to see this imformation again " |
| 19:07:00 | raptor | that's new |
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| 19:12:00 | Zoomber_linux | hi ( typing from my linux VM) |
| 19:13:00 | ZoomberImac | i can enable remote display on it, want to connect raptor:? |
| 19:13:00 | raptor | sorry, i'm a bit busy at the moment... |
| 19:14:00 | ZoomberImac | thats ok, sam686 can if he wants |
| 19:19:00 | ZoomberImac | i will be back in 30 minutes |
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| 20:46:00 | ZoomberImac | oew |
| 20:46:00 | ZoomberImac | hi |
| 20:46:00 | ZoomberImac | back |
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| 20:47:00 | ZoomberImac | hi watusimoto |
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| 20:54:00 | [1]watusimoto | how do I keep forking |
| 20:54:00 | [1]watusimoto | ? |
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| 20:55:00 | raptor | two instances of your client? |
| 20:55:00 | raptor | maybe your laptop is hibernating? |
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| 21:03:00 | ZoomberImac | yes, i think thats it |
| 21:03:00 | ZoomberImac | it happened to me once too |
| 21:03:00 | ZoomberImac | on my desktop, when i had computer-sleep timer on |
| 21:04:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 808bcb3da1b6 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Formatting, comments |
| 21:04:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit afe16fec68a6 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: More formatting, comments |
| 21:04:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 4e85ed7e292d | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge |
| 21:05:00 | raptor | good merge |
| 21:05:00 | [1]watusimoto | the best |
| 21:06:00 | raptor | oh my goodness you responded |
| 21:06:00 | raptor | :) |
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| 21:08:00 | raptor | so what do we have left to do to get an 016 beta out for people to tinker with? |
| 21:08:00 | raptor | because I know there will be bugs with the new SDL code... |
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| 21:20:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor |
| 21:20:00 | ZoomberImac | is the code working on windows or linux yet? |
| 21:20:00 | raptor | hi |
| 21:20:00 | raptor | code in trunk does compile right now |
| 21:20:00 | ZoomberImac | ok |
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| 21:21:00 | ZoomberImac | usually there was a way for me to check which files aren't added in the xcode project, but it isnt working now, so i may have to manually check.. |
| 21:22:00 | ZoomberImac | no more engineered obbjects and gameItems? |
| 21:22:00 | raptor | if you hg pull -u |
| 21:22:00 | raptor | then xcode will show the removed ones because they'll be red, i think |
| 21:23:00 | raptor | you can then run 'hg status' |
| 21:23:00 | raptor | and it will show you all the files that are new/changed/not added to hg yet |
| 21:23:00 | ZoomberImac | ok |
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| 21:24:00 | ZoomberImac | oh |
| 21:24:00 | ZoomberImac | i was refering to, which files is xcode tracking and building, and which arent it |
| 21:25:00 | ZoomberImac | like, 4 files in RED xcode is tracking but cant build, so i have to delete those |
| 21:25:00 | raptor | yes |
| 21:25:00 | ZoomberImac | possible some new cpp files are created, but not added to xcode yet |
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| 21:25:00 | raptor | yes |
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| 21:25:00 | raptor | that is what you use hg status for - to find them |
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| 21:25:00 | ZoomberImac | ok |
| 21:25:00 | ZoomberImac | i see |
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| 21:31:00 | ZoomberImac | ok |
| 21:31:00 | ZoomberImac | its not showing me status on anything added |
| 21:31:00 | ZoomberImac | only showing me untracked files |
| 21:31:00 | raptor | exactly |
| 21:31:00 | raptor | ohhh... |
| 21:31:00 | raptor | wait |
| 21:31:00 | raptor | sorry, i was mixed up |
| 21:31:00 | ZoomberImac | no, those untracked files are my xcode data |
| 21:32:00 | ZoomberImac | its ok |
| 21:32:00 | raptor | take a look here, in the Makefile for the right files: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/detail?r=b7023a53187642989a72acb578e2da4bb68145b3 |
| 21:32:00 | raptor | but they'd be .cpp and .h |
| 21:32:00 | ZoomberImac | thanks! just what i wanted |
| 21:33:00 | raptor | sorry, i forgot it was that it is easy to figure out from the Makefile.. |
| 21:33:00 | ZoomberImac | haha |
| 21:43:00 | ZoomberImac | without modifying anything, every time i try to build bitfighter, i get different amounts of errors |
| 21:44:00 | raptor | yes!! |
| 21:44:00 | raptor | once upon a time it compiled... hopefully after the PNG screenshot stuff.. |
| 21:45:00 | ZoomberImac | it's not finding SDL.framework, and I'm trying to make a path to it, yet I thought being in the library frameworks folder, it would find it |
| 21:45:00 | raptor | yeah, it should just be put into /Library/Frameworks |
| 21:45:00 | ZoomberImac | #include <SDL/sasdfasf[> "not found" |
| 21:45:00 | ZoomberImac | so i thought... |
| 21:46:00 | raptor | let me check my set-up... |
| 21:46:00 | raptor | oh |
| 21:46:00 | ZoomberImac | SDL/SDL_OpenGl.h: couldnt be found |
| 21:46:00 | watusimoto | case 79 -- https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=79 |
| 21:46:00 | watusimoto | what more do we need to do? |
| 21:46:00 | raptor | HI watusimoto |
| 21:46:00 | watusimoto | hi |
| 21:46:00 | raptor | let's see... |
| 21:46:00 | ZoomberImac | whos yoshifa@gmail.com? |
| 21:46:00 | raptor | some sort of music control? |
| 21:47:00 | watusimoto | like what? |
| 21:47:00 | raptor | i dunno |
| 21:47:00 | watusimoto | volume? |
| 21:47:00 | raptor | that works |
| 21:47:00 | raptor | like start/stop/resume? |
| 21:47:00 | ZoomberImac | yoshifan95 |
| 21:47:00 | watusimoto | meaning that works now? |
| 21:47:00 | raptor | yes |
| 21:47:00 | raptor | volume was fixed long ago... |
| 21:47:00 | watusimoto | yoshi=lonewolf |
| 21:47:00 | ZoomberImac | i never immagined a retro 2d space game having a music player with a pause machine |
| 21:47:00 | watusimoto | right |
| 21:48:00 | watusimoto | yeah -- just cut the volume to turn it off |
| 21:48:00 | raptor | right now it will play any vorbis/pcm files in the music/ sub-dir one-by-one until there are no more |
| 21:48:00 | ZoomberImac | i agree |
| 21:48:00 | ZoomberImac | watusimoto* |
| 21:48:00 | raptor | so no looping yet |
| 21:48:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: maybe i am having issues because I am running off the mac as the root user? |
| 21:49:00 | raptor | WHAT!?!?!? |
| 21:49:00 | ZoomberImac | its just temperary, but yes |
| 21:49:00 | watusimoto | it should loop around to the first song when done with the last |
| 21:49:00 | ZoomberImac | you seem very suprised? |
| 21:49:00 | raptor | ok, looping |
| 21:49:00 | watusimoto | I think for now, looping and volume are all we need |
| 21:49:00 | raptor | i think that should be easy enough |
| 21:49:00 | watusimoto | do that, and we can close the case until we get a better plan |
| 21:50:00 | raptor | ok |
| 21:50:00 | raptor | i think i was scared of beethoven to do that at first... |
| 21:50:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: WHAT!?!?!? Am i doing something wrong? |
| 21:50:00 | watusimoto | unless you really want to implemtn pause/play |
| 21:50:00 | watusimoto | actually, mute could work like pause |
| 21:51:00 | raptor | watusimoto: right now mute on any sound source doesn't stop it - it just plays at zero volume |
| 21:51:00 | ZoomberImac | remember mute is still different than pause.. |
| 21:51:00 | watusimoto | when you turn the vol back up, music just resumes from where it was |
| 21:51:00 | raptor | including sfx |
| 21:51:00 | watusimoto | yes I know |
| 21:51:00 | ZoomberImac | i agree, by the time it hits 0, it can just stop playback |
| 21:51:00 | ZoomberImac | wait wait wait wait |
| 21:52:00 | raptor | so actually disabling music/sfx/voicechat is a little more work.. |
| 21:52:00 | ZoomberImac | why are we doing this? Am I the only one who has iTunes? |
| 21:52:00 | raptor | probably not hard though |
| 21:53:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: when I had my ibook, mac glitched when I was in the login window, and I was logged in as the window server |
| 21:53:00 | raptor | ZoomberImac: running root user as a normal user is a big taboo in the unix world |
| 21:53:00 | watusimoto | well do what you feel like doing so we can close the case :-) |
| 21:53:00 | raptor | watusimoto: what would make sense? |
| 21:53:00 | watusimoto | we'll get feedback and cannn revisit for 017 |
| 21:54:00 | watusimoto | I prefer pause |
| 21:54:00 | ZoomberImac | well raptor, I think a revolution needs to take place... |
| 21:54:00 | raptor | watusimoto: do you still plan on bundling music someday? |
| 21:54:00 | watusimoto | I'd like to |
| 21:55:00 | ZoomberImac | watusimoto has some music? |
| 21:58:00 | ZoomberImac | i found something yesterday |
| 21:58:00 | ZoomberImac | let me show you the link to this music |
| 21:58:00 | ZoomberImac | ah, its on my laptop |
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| 21:58:00 | ZoomberImac | hi zoomber_laptop |
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| 22:00:00 | ZoomberImac | poor watusimoto with his internet |
| 22:00:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: i must go |
| 22:01:00 | ZoomberImac | but when i get back, ill show you those links, promises |
| 22:01:00 | raptor | later |
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| 23:44:00 | ZoomberImac | hey sam686, you there? |
| 23:44:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 23:45:00 | ZoomberImac | Thought of a cool idea to host some kind of battle similar to the Big bitfighter battle, if you want to help me host it |
| 23:46:00 | sam686 | possibly, but i don't know.. |
| 23:46:00 | ZoomberImac | winner could get a server hosted on 208 or 96.44 server.. |
| 23:47:00 | ZoomberImac | can't do it on my own though; plus, I dont know how you or _k count up the scores.. |
| 23:48:00 | ZoomberImac | brb |
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