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| 00:00:00 | raptor | exactly |
| 00:00:00 | Zoomber | you know, I don't see why everyone is fussing for music, when most people who have computers have itunes or windows media player, and can just play songs from there, which supports most formats and more songs.. |
| 00:01:00 | raptor | yep |
| 00:01:00 | Zoomber | or you could make a deal with itunes to include a mini-itunes player in bitfighter |
| 00:01:00 | raptor | i think all we need is just enough to play whatever watusimoto has in mind for 'official bitfighter music' |
| 00:02:00 | Zoomber | ok no more distractions! gotta focus on what im doing here |
| 00:03:00 | sam686 | with linux / mac / windows, you can run many programs at once, such as playing bitfighter and playing music at the same time. If you only have a video game console, you may be limited by only the in-game music, as Most video game console only run once thing at a time: the game. |
| 00:04:00 | Zoomber | what video game console can run bitfighter? |
| 00:05:00 | Zoomber | agh, its apparent I cannot resist the destractions of the imac |
| 00:05:00 | sam686 | not sure, but i do see some attempts to have it run in Xbox when looking at TNL code.. |
| 00:05:00 | raptor | i've removed XBOX code |
| 00:05:00 | raptor | i'm sure none of it would work anyways because I think most APIs changed for the XBOX 360 |
| 00:07:00 | sam686 | as long as Bitfighter is not in video game console, then any user that can run bitfighter with sound, then thsy can usually run music player at the same time. |
| 00:07:00 | Zoomber | so why are we implementing the system then? |
| 00:07:00 | Zoomber | ohey:karamazovapy |
| 00:08:00 | sam686 | music integration is found in most games on video game consoles, but usually not in pc / mac. |
| 00:10:00 | raptor | because someday watusimoto wants official bitfighter music |
| 00:20:00 | Zoomber | lol |
| 00:21:00 | Zoomber | if you really want, instead of putting 5 minutes total into three songs i put on soundcloud, I can try to spend some time making some really cool tracks. I just need to know what style and feel/texture watusimoto wants to get at |
| 00:26:00 | raptor | i defer to watusimoto on music preferences for b itfighter |
| 00:45:00 | karamazovapy | cholla |
| 00:47:00 | raptor | hi karamazovapy |
| 00:47:00 | raptor | if you didn't see, i posted a link for an 016 installer for you |
| 00:48:00 | sam686 | may need to be renamed to take off the ending _ so it is .exe instead of .exe_ |
| 00:50:00 | karamazovapy | I got it |
| 01:03:00 | raptor | be back laterz |
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| 01:36:00 | Zoomber | whats karamazovapy been up to latley? |
| 01:36:00 | Zoomber | or just been chimin |
| 02:19:00 | karamazovapy | I was in canada for about a week |
| 02:19:00 | Zoomber | nice |
| 02:19:00 | karamazovapy | now I have returned to smite them all |
| 02:19:00 | Zoomber | whereso? |
| 02:20:00 | karamazovapy | at B - goo.gl/okZVk |
| 02:21:00 | Zoomber | agh |
| 02:21:00 | Zoomber | kserv is down again |
| 02:21:00 | Zoomber | trying to browse through levels |
| 02:21:00 | karamazovapy | or about half a mile away from there...google doesn't have the mapping |
| 02:21:00 | karamazovapy | curious |
| 02:21:00 | Zoomber | ooh, neat |
| 02:22:00 | karamazovapy | the process is still running |
| 02:22:00 | Zoomber | its pointing me to "unknown road" |
| 02:22:00 | karamazovapy | yeah...there's a private drive that branches off "unknown road" |
| 02:22:00 | karamazovapy | technically, 200 Oak Ridge Trail |
| 02:22:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 02:22:00 | Zoomber | your on lorne street? |
| 02:23:00 | karamazovapy | kserv is still up |
| 02:23:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 02:23:00 | Zoomber | strange |
| 02:23:00 | karamazovapy | no, I'm in lansing |
| 02:23:00 | karamazovapy | thessalon is the closest well known town |
| 02:23:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 02:24:00 | Zoomber | thats a really cool place, on unknown road |
| 02:24:00 | Zoomber | forest to nice lake |
| 02:24:00 | karamazovapy | it's my favorite place - my grandfather and dad and uncles built our cabin by hand - without power tools |
| 02:25:00 | Zoomber | that can go for my grandfather in door county wisconsin |
| 02:25:00 | Zoomber | kind of similar to here |
| 02:26:00 | Zoomber | just on a smaller lake, next to lake michigan |
| 02:26:00 | karamazovapy | I live here - http://maps.google.com/maps?q=215+Black+Court,+Lansing,+MI&hl=en&sll=46.301881,-83.430176&sspn=0.241456,0.661926&vpsrc=0&z=16 |
| 02:27:00 | karamazovapy | but the house on street view is actually my neighbor |
| 02:27:00 | Zoomber | i see a |
| 02:27:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 02:27:00 | Zoomber | i see a two story house with a pickup truck |
| 02:27:00 | Zoomber | are you the one next to it? |
| 02:27:00 | karamazovapy | I'm a little white house to the "right" of that one |
| 02:28:00 | karamazovapy | but the road is really narrow and ends suddenly, so I don't think they got any pictures of my place |
| 02:28:00 | Zoomber | i think i see. a 1 story house with three windows at the front? |
| 02:29:00 | karamazovapy | yep |
| 02:29:00 | karamazovapy | small porch |
| 02:29:00 | Zoomber | something is wrong, when i click "back", it actually goes forward to your house, so i get full view of it |
| 02:29:00 | karamazovapy | yeah |
| 02:30:00 | karamazovapy | I just saw taht |
| 02:30:00 | karamazovapy | *that |
| 02:30:00 | Zoomber | i think they mixed the two up |
| 02:30:00 | karamazovapy | I don't have all that greenery growing up the iron work |
| 02:30:00 | karamazovapy | or around the front |
| 02:30:00 | Zoomber | old picture? |
| 02:30:00 | Zoomber | i see something that looks like a tractor in the background, but lamp post blocking it |
| 02:31:00 | karamazovapy | I think that's actually just stuff growing up around the fence |
| 02:31:00 | karamazovapy | I've only lived here since february |
| 02:31:00 | Zoomber | ah, did you buy the house? |
| 02:31:00 | Zoomber | recently |
| 02:31:00 | karamazovapy | just a lease |
| 02:31:00 | Zoomber | i see |
| 02:31:00 | karamazovapy | I'm not of house-buying age |
| 02:31:00 | Zoomber | dont you also live in arizona? |
| 02:31:00 | karamazovapy | I was a masters student there |
| 02:32:00 | Zoomber | i see |
| 02:32:00 | karamazovapy | I'm 26 and don't have a real job yet |
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| 03:34:00 | raptor | good evening! |
| 03:37:00 | Zoomber | hi |
| 03:37:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 03:45:00 | raptor | hi |
| 03:45:00 | raptor | i don't even remember what i was working on... |
| 03:47:00 | sam686 | there may be a possible player not behaving right, look at this chat in-game: http://208.107.52.15/bitfighter/chat_player_problem.png |
| 03:48:00 | raptor | haha |
| 03:48:00 | raptor | did /gmute work? |
| 03:49:00 | sam686 | yes, except player leave and rejoin to un-gmute.. |
| 03:50:00 | Zoomber | plus, possible BAN not possible when ip addresses are static |
| 03:50:00 | Zoomber | no true way to keep someone out unless you block their ip range.. |
| 03:50:00 | Zoomber | which would affect others |
| 03:51:00 | raptor | oh yes - i had an idea of using another config file of sorts to implement a ban list |
| 03:52:00 | sam686 | well, dynamic IP address may not change too often depending on ISP, plus, that ban which i can set by /banip <ip> <number of minutes> or /ban <player_name><minutes> |
| 03:52:00 | sam686 | the ban usually keeps the player out for a few days.. |
| 03:53:00 | sam686 | my way, in my 015a clone changes, doesn't read or write to INI file, and re-uses the method used by a 30-second ban when kicking the normal way, and extends the time to maybe up to a few hourd.. |
| 03:53:00 | Zoomber | i can change my ip address by restarting my router.. |
| 03:54:00 | sam686 | takes lots of time to restart router, and you might not get new IP address in dynamic IP addressing.. |
| 03:55:00 | sam686 | ip range ban might help, but that can increase chance of banning more then one player.. |
| 03:59:00 | Zoomber | yes, lots of people have ip address starting with 69, like me |
| 03:59:00 | Zoomber | possible when you ban a range, you get others too... |
| 03:59:00 | raptor | i suggested a config file like the following, once: http://pastie.org/2368493 |
| 04:00:00 | raptor | then when bitfighter loaded, it would load it into memory, analyze the dates and check every incoming connection against it |
| 04:01:00 | sam686 | what about adding a ban while the server is running? |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | yes, it would work kind of like the INI - load on start, but only alter stuff on memory |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | you could use commands to adjust it |
| 04:02:00 | raptor | then it would be written out any time something changed |
| 04:08:00 | Zoomber | WOW |
| 04:08:00 | Zoomber | just got informed... |
| 04:33:00 | raptor | well good night guys - heading in early |
| 04:33:00 | sam686 | bye.. |
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| 14:17:00 | raptor | good morning! |
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| 21:28:00 | karamazovapy | so raptor |
| 21:28:00 | raptor | hi |
| 21:28:00 | karamazovapy | the 016 test build doesn't recognize stick 2 left or right |
| 21:28:00 | raptor | ok |
| 21:29:00 | raptor | which stick is yours again? (model) |
| 21:29:00 | karamazovapy | they're the fourth line on the raw analogue axis (p880) |
| 21:30:00 | karamazovapy | also, the d-pad doesn't function |
| 21:30:00 | karamazovapy | normally I can use it to navigate menus, as well as stick 1 |
| 21:32:00 | raptor | so the mappings must have changed for your joystick in SDL |
| 21:32:00 | karamazovapy | suppose? |
| 21:32:00 | karamazovapy | do you want me to test editor stuff? |
| 21:32:00 | raptor | i see the problematic one, it was originally identified as axis 5 in GLUT |
| 21:33:00 | raptor | 0, 1 as primary; 5,2 as secondary |
| 21:33:00 | karamazovapy | oh, I can't really do much of anything in the editor...so I guess nevermind that |
| 21:33:00 | raptor | yeah - the editor is in an unknown state at the moment |
| 21:34:00 | raptor | do you know how to launch programs from the command line in windows? |
| 21:34:00 | karamazovapy | yes |
| 21:35:00 | raptor | if i get you another build, it will be really noisy so as to find out the correct mappings for your joystick |
| 21:35:00 | raptor | would you be willing to install and run it? |
| 21:35:00 | karamazovapy | sure |
| 21:35:00 | raptor | ok, let me put it together real quick... |
| 21:45:00 | raptor | ok building... |
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| 21:48:00 | raptor | ok karamazovapy |
| 21:48:00 | raptor | http://208.107.52.15/upload/Bitfighter-Installer-016_for_k_rev2.exe |
| 21:49:00 | raptor | if you could install that and then run the executable from command line, it will output every joystick action you do (except buttons) |
| 21:49:00 | raptor | so any hat/ball/axis movement should be displayed |
| 21:55:00 | karamazovapy | the last version had a little shell/command window pop up when I ran it |
| 21:55:00 | karamazovapy | and it output some joystick stuff |
| 21:55:00 | raptor | did i break something? |
| 21:57:00 | karamazovapy | how do you mean? |
| 21:57:00 | raptor | did i break bitfighter running? |
| 21:57:00 | karamazovapy | no, it works |
| 21:58:00 | raptor | so i'm specifically looking for: "SDL Axis number: " when you press a direction on the broken axis |
| 21:58:00 | karamazovapy | SDL Axis number: 3 doesn't work |
| 21:58:00 | raptor | 3!! |
| 21:58:00 | raptor | it prints '3'! |
| 21:58:00 | raptor | great! |
| 21:59:00 | karamazovapy | and normally SDL Hat number: 0, value: 1 and value: 4 scroll up and down on menus |
| 21:59:00 | raptor | ah ok |
| 21:59:00 | raptor | interesting |
| 21:59:00 | raptor | i guess glut mapped those to buttons |
| 22:00:00 | raptor | did you use the hat for anything else? |
| 22:00:00 | karamazovapy | just navigating menus, by habit |
| 22:01:00 | raptor | ok, let me get you a quick build with the axis working, hopefully, then i'll work on the hat... |
| 22:01:00 | sam686 | that is some crasy too many flags overslows the score: http://bitfighter.org/gamereports/ |
| 22:01:00 | karamazovapy | technically, it's not actually the hat |
| 22:02:00 | raptor | overflow! |
| 22:02:00 | sam686 | the score went to negative after scoring in about 20000 flags in nexus |
| 22:02:00 | raptor | what is technically a 'hat' (forgive my joystick ignorance..) |
| 22:02:00 | karamazovapy | neat |
| 22:03:00 | karamazovapy | I'm gonna go get food |
| 22:03:00 | sam686 | oh, the HAT in sdl is just a 4 bit mask, up, right, down, left |
| 22:03:00 | sam686 | bit 1 is up, bit 2 is right, bit 3 is down, bit 4 is left |
| 22:05:00 | raptor | ok |
| 22:05:00 | raptor | does the d-pad map the hat frequently? |
| 22:05:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: your next build with working axis, hopefully: http://208.107.52.15/upload/Bitfighter-Installer-016_for_k_rev3.exe |
| 22:05:00 | sam686 | not sure, it is on my Logitech Dual Action.. |
| 22:06:00 | sam686 | probably yes, if controller have analog sticks.. |
| 22:11:00 | sam686 | Press F7 while testing joystick? it shows RAW joystick axis.. |
| 22:11:00 | raptor | really? without the logprintfs i put? |
| 22:11:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 22:11:00 | raptor | liek it would have printed '3' for the axis? |
| 22:11:00 | raptor | can you give me a screenshot? |
| 22:12:00 | sam686 | no, but while in F7, it jsut shows RAW displays of all axis.. |
| 22:14:00 | sam686 | this is my logiteck dual action on 016's F7 screen. http://208.107.52.15/bitfighter/joy_axis.png |
| 22:15:00 | sam686 | RAW controller buttons don't yet work right, but RAW axis does.. |
| 22:15:00 | raptor | ahhh |
| 22:15:00 | raptor | that is good |
| 22:19:00 | raptor | we need to get raw buttons and raw hat/dpad to display |
| 22:20:00 | raptor | so we can fix our predefined joysticks... |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | do i need to do complex logic with checking hat axes like i do with joystick? |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | or is it more like buttons |
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| 23:38:00 | raptor | sam686: i have to go for a bit |
| 23:38:00 | raptor | but i made a patch for the hat: http://208.107.52.15/upload/1temp.diff |
| 23:38:00 | raptor | it has k's proper axis direction change, too |
| 23:38:00 | raptor | could you test? |
| 23:39:00 | raptor | thanks if you can.. |
| 23:39:00 | raptor | bye |
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