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| 03:22:26 | Little_Apple | raptor Y U NO HERE |
| 03:22:35 | Little_Apple | HEY PEOPLE HEY PEOPLE HEY |
| 03:22:54 | Little_Apple | someone answer |
| 03:23:00 | Little_Apple | grrrreererrerrrrr |
| 03:23:24 | Little_Apple | HAY GUYS |
| 03:23:47 | Little_Apple | someones |
| 03:24:02 | Little_Apple | SOMEONES |
| 03:24:06 | Little_Apple | HELLOOEESSS |
| 03:24:30 | Little_Apple | WAHWAAWHAWHAWHWAHURRDURRR |
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| 16:40:21 | Little_Apple | helloo |
| 16:40:27 | raptor | good day |
| 16:41:35 | Little_Apple | WATCH MY VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVEOnLqxeU&context=C3c5de20ADOEgsToPDskK5wYOrcM0Xknltck6WXi9N |
| 16:41:50 | Little_Apple | it has a potato |
| 16:42:09 | Little_Apple | WAAWAWAACTTHCHC IT |
| 16:42:21 | raptor | sorry... busy right now... |
| 16:42:27 | raptor | maybe in a little bit.. |
| 16:45:50 | Little_Apple | awww |
| 16:45:55 | Little_Apple | its a silent movie |
| 16:46:00 | Little_Apple | with a potato |
| 16:49:05 | Little_Apple | YOU MUST WATCH IT. THEN IT WILL GIVE YOU A WHOLE NEW THEORY ON THE MEANING OF LIFE. |
| 16:51:06 | Little_Apple | you will be amazed |
| 16:51:34 | raptor | 42 |
| 16:51:39 | Little_Apple | your mind will = blown. |
| 16:52:57 | Little_Apple | wactthhh itititiskjfjsdahfjkkjhasgksjf |
| 16:53:09 | raptor | are you not at school? |
| 16:54:06 | Little_Apple | sicks. |
| 16:54:15 | raptor | always? |
| 16:54:25 | raptor | because you post in the forums a lot during the day... :) |
| 16:54:36 | Little_Apple | :p |
| 16:54:56 | Little_Apple | NOW WATCH THE ANIMATION WAUAUAUAUAGGGHHGGHH |
| 16:55:35 | Little_Apple | it has a potato |
| 16:56:52 | Little_Apple | DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:57:02 | Little_Apple | … |
| 16:57:04 | Little_Apple | ... |
| 16:57:11 | raptor | i has work |
| 16:57:13 | Little_Apple | ………………………...…….. |
| 16:57:18 | raptor | ^^ in your language |
| 16:57:44 | Little_Apple | potato man is sad :( |
| 16:58:50 | Little_Apple | potato man wants you to watch him. |
| 16:59:42 | Little_Apple | potato man wants attention. |
| 16:59:49 | Little_Apple | and views |
| 17:04:24 | Little_Apple | im redownloading tf2. help me kill time. |
| 17:06:58 | Little_Apple | then thousand bottles of beer on the wall |
| 17:07:11 | Little_Apple | ten thousand bottles of beeeer |
| 17:07:21 | Little_Apple | you take one down you pass it around |
| 17:07:39 | Little_Apple | then drink it all and DIE |
| 17:09:06 | Little_Apple | who wants gatorade? |
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| 17:12:59 | raptor | that kid needs work |
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| 17:14:18 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 17:14:28 | Little_Apple | steam hates my computer |
| 17:15:36 | Little_Apple | can you translate this erro message? |
| 17:15:44 | Little_Apple | error* |
| 17:15:56 | Little_Apple | SteamStartup() failed: SteamStartup(0xf,0x0xbffff1ac) failed with error 1: Failed create pipe: 0 |
| 17:16:17 | raptor | nope, not familiar enough with steam |
| 17:17:31 | Little_Apple | ._. |
| 17:17:58 | Little_Apple | WHRRRGGGG' |
| 17:18:31 | raptor | you could look up the error on the internet |
| 17:20:18 | Little_Apple | oh... ok .-. |
| 17:20:46 | Little_Apple | NOPE! |
| 17:20:50 | Little_Apple | didn't work :D |
| 17:23:48 | Little_Apple | RAOTIR |
| 17:23:54 | Little_Apple | RAAAAPPPTORRR |
| 17:24:06 | Little_Apple | all i wanted to do was plat tf2 Dx |
| 17:24:11 | Little_Apple | plat? |
| 17:24:12 | Little_Apple | PLAY |
| 17:24:52 | raptor | hi |
| 17:24:55 | raptor | i think |
| 17:25:02 | raptor | you need to be focused on something |
| 17:25:07 | raptor | oh |
| 17:25:18 | raptor | were you able to change those graphics? |
| 17:34:47 | Little_Apple | not yet :P |
| 17:34:59 | Little_Apple | its kinda hard cuz they aren't solid pixels |
| 17:35:05 | Little_Apple | or something |
| 17:35:10 | Little_Apple | ill do that now :P |
| 17:35:32 | raptor | i figured it may be a little tough |
| 17:35:47 | raptor | you have the red ship, right? maybe you can copy the pixes from that one... |
| 17:37:06 | Little_Apple | yea i got them. I'm using photosho[ :D |
| 17:37:09 | Little_Apple | photoshop |
| 17:38:43 | Little_Apple | AGH |
| 17:38:54 | Little_Apple | photoshop is tooo complicayed |
| 17:38:58 | Little_Apple | HELLO SEASHORE |
| 17:41:03 | Little_Apple | i just had a brilliant idea ._. |
| 17:41:59 | Little_Apple | nah its a farty idea |
| 17:44:25 | Little_Apple | can you send that link sam said i could upload the pictures to? |
| 17:45:08 | raptor | ok |
| 17:45:13 | raptor | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload3.php |
| 17:46:41 | Little_Apple | doned |
| 17:46:49 | Little_Apple | er |
| 17:46:53 | Little_Apple | i did the green one |
| 17:46:55 | raptor | what are the links? |
| 17:47:04 | raptor | after submitting, it you give you a link to copy |
| 17:47:18 | Little_Apple | heres the green one http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/greenship.png |
| 17:47:32 | Little_Apple | ill get to the others now |
| 17:47:43 | raptor | looks good! |
| 17:49:08 | Little_Apple | :D |
| 17:49:21 | Little_Apple | i don't have any idea how to use photoshop xD |
| 17:49:35 | Little_Apple | i prefer the cheapy free stuff |
| 17:49:58 | raptor | look! it's up!: http://bitfighter.org/ |
| 17:51:05 | Little_Apple | awesome :D |
| 17:51:19 | Little_Apple | done with the purple one |
| 17:51:48 | Little_Apple | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/purpleship.png |
| 17:52:39 | raptor | one to go! |
| 17:54:29 | Little_Apple | doneded |
| 17:54:49 | Little_Apple | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/brownship.png |
| 17:54:56 | Little_Apple | and tf2 is done downloading |
| 17:54:58 | Little_Apple | huzzah |
| 17:55:12 | raptor | all updated! |
| 17:55:14 | raptor | thanks! |
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| 17:57:00 | Little_Apple | er |
| 17:57:11 | Little_Apple | they good? |
| 17:57:20 | raptor | yep |
| 17:57:25 | raptor | i'd say so - what do you think? |
| 17:57:42 | Little_Apple | i guess sooo |
| 17:57:56 | Little_Apple | tf2 don't work still |
| 17:58:41 | Little_Apple | gurble gurble grum grumm |
| 18:02:09 | raptor | ok, i watched your potato |
| 18:02:13 | raptor | it was amusing |
| 18:02:19 | raptor | :] |
| 18:02:41 | Little_Apple | :D |
| 18:02:47 | Little_Apple | its stupid :P |
| 18:03:01 | Little_Apple | I'm looking at some new animation software |
| 18:03:35 | Little_Apple | id like to do a little more frame by frame stuff rather than purely keyframing |
| 18:05:21 | Little_Apple | http://www.toonboom.com/products/toon-boom-studio/ |
| 18:05:39 | Little_Apple | and a new tablet |
| 18:05:48 | Little_Apple | http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Bamboo/~/link.aspx?_id=1D60C6DDB67A4A01B79A81AD39C3EDB5&_z=z |
| 18:06:07 | Little_Apple | both i probably won't get for a while |
| 18:06:20 | Little_Apple | if either |
| 18:06:26 | Little_Apple | er |
| 18:06:28 | Little_Apple | if any |
| 18:11:10 | Little_Apple | ZAM ZAM ZAM |
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| 19:44:39 | karamazovapy | today I subbed for middle school and caught 7th grade girls taking pictures of my butt with their phones |
| 19:44:53 | karamazovapy | I'm still not sure if I should feel a little bit proud or totally weirded out |
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| 19:50:48 | raptor | wonderful |
| 19:51:12 | raptor | as long as they weren't apple devices... |
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| 20:02:16 | karamazovapy | it was a choir class, so it was tough to regulate |
| 20:02:28 | karamazovapy | plus, these kids all have stupid cases on their phones |
| 20:07:37 | raptor | ah yes - so everyone with the same iphone model can be unique: http://despair.com/individuality.html |
| 20:08:23 | karamazovapy | middle school classes are awful |
| 20:10:14 | raptor | i hated middle school |
| 20:10:19 | raptor | and high school |
| 20:10:28 | raptor | but absolutely loathed middle school |
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| 20:10:55 | Little_Apple | helloo |
| 20:11:07 | sam686 | hellooooooooooooooo |
| 20:11:11 | raptor | Little_Apple: http://despair.com/individuality.html |
| 20:11:39 | karamazovapy | if I ranked three years of my life by average day-to-day lousiness, middle school would probably be the worst ste |
| 20:11:41 | karamazovapy | *set |
| 20:12:03 | raptor | yes, good description |
| 20:12:09 | raptor | day-to-day lousiness |
| 20:12:21 | raptor | and it had nothing to do with the teachers for me - it was all my peers |
| 20:12:32 | karamazovapy | yeah, it was just generally mediocre for me |
| 20:13:12 | karamazovapy | it wasn't even like it was awful. I've been through really tough family health problems and deaths and some genuinely terrible things |
| 20:13:21 | karamazovapy | but middle school takes the cake for day-to-day lousiness |
| 20:13:27 | Little_Apple | time for me to butt in and annoy you all |
| 20:13:43 | Little_Apple | how incredibly hard would it be to make a ship editor for itfighter? |
| 20:13:50 | Little_Apple | bitfighter |
| 20:13:51 | raptor | Little_Apple: very |
| 20:14:11 | Little_Apple | ok. |
| 20:14:14 | raptor | everything is vector graphics |
| 20:14:49 | Little_Apple | could you in theory take an image convert it into a vector file and use that as the ship? |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | not quite |
| 20:15:17 | Little_Apple | ah |
| 20:15:32 | sam686 | but it is possible to take an image and draw that image in game... |
| 20:15:33 | raptor | it'd be more like raster image -> vector format -> opengl calls + dynamic rotation/movement info |
| 20:15:48 | Little_Apple | hurmph |
| 20:15:59 | sam686 | but, none of that was programmed in bitfighter, not yet |
| 20:16:00 | Little_Apple | always smashing my ideas with problems :P |
| 20:16:58 | raptor | thinking of one of these by blackbird?: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/snapshot1.png |
| 20:17:21 | Little_Apple | kinda |
| 20:17:33 | Little_Apple | but i had a few different ideas |
| 20:18:41 | Little_Apple | what about levels with moving parts aside from speedzones? |
| 20:19:01 | raptor | what about them |
| 20:19:15 | Little_Apple | how hard would they be to add? |
| 20:19:20 | Little_Apple | er |
| 20:19:21 | Little_Apple | code |
| 20:19:27 | Little_Apple | program |
| 20:19:28 | Little_Apple | whatever |
| 20:19:59 | raptor | not too hard if it was continuous time-based movement (like cores) |
| 20:20:12 | raptor | but if it was triggered stuff, then that'd be more involved |
| 20:20:28 | Little_Apple | i mean set movement without triggering |
| 20:21:09 | raptor | not too terribly difficult |
| 20:21:21 | Little_Apple | like movement inbedded with the level. like things rotating or moving back and forth |
| 20:21:50 | raptor | same |
| 20:22:04 | Little_Apple | what about having objects follow paths? |
| 20:22:10 | raptor | ah... |
| 20:22:17 | raptor | that would probably difficult |
| 20:22:24 | raptor | very difficult |
| 20:22:30 | karamazovapy | yeah, it's tough if you want to be able to change behavior from the editor |
| 20:22:39 | karamazovapy | and it's quite tough if you're thinking of barriers in particular |
| 20:22:54 | Little_Apple | like a line item except it determins the path of an object |
| 20:23:04 | karamazovapy | we know what you mean |
| 20:23:25 | Little_Apple | like say you had a path tool and you could bind that path to one or more items |
| 20:23:33 | karamazovapy | yes. we know what you mean. |
| 20:23:35 | Little_Apple | that owuld be cool |
| 20:23:45 | Little_Apple | owuld ._. |
| 20:23:56 | karamazovapy | try typing "turrets" on the forums |
| 20:24:03 | raptor | :) |
| 20:24:06 | Little_Apple | i know you know what i mean |
| 20:24:52 | Little_Apple | how about adding dispensers so we can ask engies to poot dispenser here? |
| 20:25:03 | karamazovapy | /mute Little_Apple |
| 20:25:28 | Little_Apple | :3 |
| 20:25:46 | karamazovapy | did someone just type something? I think I muted Little_Apple. |
| 20:25:59 | Little_Apple | :| |
| 20:26:10 | karamazovapy | that's better. |
| 20:26:15 | Little_Apple | :|||||| |
| 20:26:38 | sam686 | i don't think non-admin can mute a person from chatting to everyone.. |
| 20:26:46 | Little_Apple | yaay! |
| 20:26:52 | karamazovapy | dammit, sam |
| 20:27:00 | Little_Apple | dont get any ideas raptor |
| 20:27:27 | karamazovapy | what LA doesn't know about irc, LA doesn't need to know about irc! |
| 20:27:49 | raptor | your IRC client should have a built-in 'ignore' feature |
| 20:27:54 | Little_Apple | :p |
| 20:28:03 | karamazovapy | I was just teasing |
| 20:28:12 | raptor | /gmute Little_Apple |
| 20:28:15 | sam686 | but.. you neven know if the other person have their client set to mute / ignore from another person |
| 20:28:23 | karamazovapy | having already received my %DV of tweens |
| 20:28:24 | sam686 | gmute usually requires admin, though... |
| 20:28:35 | raptor | /gmute raptor |
| 20:29:11 | Little_Apple | LOL |
| 20:29:32 | karamazovapy | better not waste your time trying to talk to him anymore, since he's g-muted |
| 20:29:50 | sam686 | if a channel is talk-only for people having voiced, like me, then only admin / voiced people can talk |
| 20:29:55 | Little_Apple | can he un-gmute himself? |
| 20:30:03 | karamazovapy | neverever |
| 20:30:15 | karamazovapy | it's perms. |
| 20:30:18 | sam686 | yes, /gmute same_player again to toggle mute on / off |
| 20:30:19 | Little_Apple | i find that hard to believe. |
| 20:30:22 | Little_Apple | HAH |
| 20:30:32 | karamazovapy | sam's talking crazy talk |
| 20:30:34 | karamazovapy | don't listen to him |
| 20:30:38 | karamazovapy | HE'S FULL OF LIES! |
| 20:30:47 | karamazovapy | just ask raptor |
| 20:30:52 | Little_Apple | i cant |
| 20:30:56 | karamazovapy | EXACTLY |
| 20:31:00 | Little_Apple | like you said hes permamuted |
| 20:31:16 | Little_Apple | but sam said he can unpermamute |
| 20:31:29 | karamazovapy | raptor is the admin here, if I'm correct |
| 20:31:40 | Little_Apple | @ |
| 20:31:54 | Little_Apple | €›‹fi›‹fl›fi‡**&**(())¨¨ |
| 20:31:58 | sam686 | the /gmute stuff is bitfighte server stuff |
| 20:32:01 | karamazovapy | it looks like raptor is admin and sam is voiced |
| 20:32:21 | karamazovapy | ...or something to that effect |
| 20:32:36 | sam686 | yes, and some channel only allowed voiced / admin people to chat |
| 20:32:49 | Little_Apple | snowballs! |
| 20:32:53 | karamazovapy | time to walk the dog |
| 20:32:53 | karamazovapy | later |
| 20:32:59 | Little_Apple | awwwwwwwww |
| 20:33:00 | | karamazovapy is now known as _k|dogwalkin |
| 20:34:56 | Little_Apple | why did tf2 have to stop working?? |
| 20:35:10 | Little_Apple | right when i had figured out sprays |
| 20:35:23 | Little_Apple | and when i was about to hit 24 hrs of play |
| 20:35:31 | Little_Apple | hurmph. |
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| 20:37:50 | raptor | there we go.. i had to leave to un /gmute myself |
| 20:38:01 | Little_Apple | lol |
| 20:38:38 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 20:39:06 | raptor | hi |
| 20:39:08 | Little_Apple | tell me what songs i should learn on the uke. |
| 20:39:17 | Little_Apple | PLEASSEEEEEEEEE |
| 20:39:41 | raptor | Disc Wars from the TRON: Legacy soundtrack |
| 20:39:52 | Little_Apple | seriously? |
| 20:40:00 | Little_Apple | wow. |
| 20:40:02 | Little_Apple | uhh |
| 20:40:03 | raptor | i don't know... (that's just what i'm listening to..) |
| 20:40:15 | Little_Apple | the tron soundtrack is awesome :P |
| 20:44:08 | Little_Apple | sauce |
| 20:44:21 | raptor | little apple sauce? |
| 20:44:28 | Little_Apple | i hate apple sauce |
| 20:44:30 | | raptor bandit |
| 20:44:41 | Little_Apple | its like eating smashed up people |
| 20:44:50 | raptor | tasty with cinnamon |
| 20:45:00 | Little_Apple | thats bagels |
| 20:45:08 | raptor | brb |
| 20:46:53 | Little_Apple | cake |
| 20:48:17 | Little_Apple | moo |
| 20:51:00 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 20:51:05 | Little_Apple | chili baby called |
| 20:51:10 | Little_Apple | he wants a taco |
| 20:52:42 | Little_Apple | a crunchy taco |
| 20:52:51 | Little_Apple | a nice big one |
| 20:52:52 | raptor | have to start with soft |
| 20:53:01 | Little_Apple | aww |
| 20:53:43 | Little_Apple | i might learn the skyrim theme on uke |
| 20:53:56 | Little_Apple | maybe |
| 20:54:45 | Little_Apple | FUS RO DAH! |
| 20:55:46 | Little_Apple | i used to eat tacos. then i took an arrow to the knee |
| 20:56:05 | Little_Apple | bwahahaha |
| 20:56:10 | raptor | i had no idea that knees were essential to the digestion of tacos |
| 20:56:18 | Little_Apple | GRRR |
| 20:56:24 | Little_Apple | STOP KILLING MY THUNDER |
| 20:56:27 | Little_Apple | er |
| 20:56:31 | Little_Apple | stealing it |
| 20:56:33 | Little_Apple | or something |
| 20:56:52 | raptor | or that thunder was manifested in corporial form |
| 20:56:55 | Little_Apple | arrow to the mouth maybe? |
| 20:57:50 | Little_Apple | that would hurt. alot. |
| 20:59:06 | Little_Apple | we need somekind of bitfighetr meme. aside from airlock deserveing your vote. |
| 20:59:06 | | _k|dogwalkin is now known as karamazovapy |
| 20:59:15 | Little_Apple | hello puppy man |
| 20:59:20 | karamazovapy | classic lays or ruffles? |
| 20:59:25 | Little_Apple | classic |
| 20:59:36 | Little_Apple | or better yet |
| 20:59:37 | karamazovapy | ah - I left out critical information - with dip |
| 20:59:38 | Little_Apple | pringles |
| 21:00:01 | Little_Apple | forget dip |
| 21:00:10 | karamazovapy | you can go right to hell |
| 21:00:17 | Little_Apple | just get pringles extreme buffalo wing flavor |
| 21:00:19 | karamazovapy | and take that dip attitude with you! |
| 21:00:31 | Little_Apple | or have spicy peanuts |
| 21:00:34 | Little_Apple | om nom nom |
| 21:00:58 | karamazovapy | NO |
| 21:01:02 | karamazovapy | we are getting chips and dip |
| 21:01:06 | Little_Apple | i like to separate crunchy from goopy with my junk food. |
| 21:01:07 | karamazovapy | because that is what we crave |
| 21:01:17 | karamazovapy | no salsa? |
| 21:01:20 | Little_Apple | oh |
| 21:01:29 | Little_Apple | salsa doesnt count cuz its hot |
| 21:01:34 | karamazovapy | no peanut butter toast? |
| 21:01:39 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 21:01:39 | Little_Apple | i like salsa |
| 21:01:41 | Little_Apple | nah |
| 21:01:55 | karamazovapy | no smores? |
| 21:01:56 | Little_Apple | nuttella and waffles is good |
| 21:02:06 | Little_Apple | OK SHUT UP |
| 21:02:08 | karamazovapy | I'm making chocolate chip waffles for dinner |
| 21:02:14 | Little_Apple | OHHHH |
| 21:02:25 | Little_Apple | those are good |
| 21:02:36 | karamazovapy | yes. and I can do these things because I am a grown up! |
| 21:02:47 | Little_Apple | heh. funny |
| 21:02:48 | karamazovapy | I should also get some bacon |
| 21:02:56 | Little_Apple | oh ok. rub it in. |
| 21:03:31 | Little_Apple | try tearing the bacon into little bits and putting it in the waffles |
| 21:03:38 | karamazovapy | no no no |
| 21:03:50 | Little_Apple | YOU DOIN WAFFLES WRONG HATER |
| 21:03:56 | karamazovapy | I keep my syrup and my meats separate |
| 21:04:00 | karamazovapy | also, my chocolate and my meats |
| 21:04:06 | Little_Apple | who needs syrup |
| 21:04:15 | Little_Apple | WABAM |
| 21:04:25 | karamazovapy | waffles are pancakes with a syrup trap |
| 21:04:31 | karamazovapy | what's the point of waffles without syrup? |
| 21:04:34 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 21:04:48 | Little_Apple | those little cups arent for syrup |
| 21:04:50 | karamazovapy | I mean, that's just science |
| 21:04:53 | Little_Apple | they're for nuttella |
| 21:05:00 | Little_Apple | er |
| 21:05:01 | karamazovapy | nutella doesn't require cuppage |
| 21:05:02 | Little_Apple | nutella |
| 21:05:10 | Little_Apple | it doesnt need it |
| 21:05:13 | Little_Apple | but it helps |
| 21:05:28 | karamazovapy | you're talking crazy here |
| 21:05:33 | Little_Apple | no |
| 21:05:43 | karamazovapy | I think you need to lie down for a while |
| 21:05:45 | Little_Apple | IM TALKIN SMART HATEH |
| 21:05:51 | raptor | waffles have the potential to be crispy without ruining the whole item |
| 21:06:00 | Little_Apple | you obviously dont watch epic meal time |
| 21:06:06 | raptor | due to aforementioned syrup-traps |
| 21:06:09 | karamazovapy | I've seen plenty of epic meal time |
| 21:06:15 | karamazovapy | but I prefer "meal time" |
| 21:06:18 | Little_Apple | you dont learn well |
| 21:06:39 | karamazovapy | I don't cook to gross out the internet |
| 21:06:45 | Little_Apple | you need more bacon and dack janiels with yo food |
| 21:07:17 | Little_Apple | rerggregrggrgggg |
| 21:07:36 | karamazovapy | I question whether you've ever had jack daniels |
| 21:07:48 | Little_Apple | im 13 |
| 21:07:51 | Little_Apple | what do you think? |
| 21:07:52 | karamazovapy | precisely. |
| 21:08:32 | Little_Apple | i have to settle with mountain dew |
| 21:08:33 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 21:09:08 | karamazovapy | since you're all excited about TF2... http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/pony-hospitaldaring-do-tf2-map.html |
| 21:09:31 | Little_Apple | although at the moment all i can has it chocolate milk as we dont have any non-diet soda in the house. |
| 21:10:50 | Little_Apple | oh yea |
| 21:11:02 | Little_Apple | tf2 stopped wrking today for some reason. |
| 21:11:13 | Little_Apple | its wierd. |
| 21:12:04 | Little_Apple | i redownloaded it twice and it still wont work. POOOOOPS |
| 21:12:20 | karamazovapy | you should probably buy a computer |
| 21:12:46 | Little_Apple | i dont think i can afford one at $5 a week. |
| 21:12:48 | raptor | yeah, get rid of the mac for a computer |
| 21:12:56 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 21:13:06 | karamazovapy | you could probably resell your mac to someone gullible |
| 21:13:12 | Little_Apple | we recently got a new computer |
| 21:13:28 | karamazovapy | really? I heard you got a mac! |
| 21:13:33 | Little_Apple | lol |
| 21:13:35 | raptor | yeah,. me too |
| 21:13:59 | Little_Apple | id like to has one of each eventually |
| 21:14:39 | Little_Apple | right now im trying to get a replacement tablet. |
| 21:15:17 | raptor | you should say 'drawing tablet' so people won't be confused |
| 21:15:46 | Little_Apple | meh |
| 21:16:01 | Little_Apple | DRAWING TABLET THERE I SAID IT |
| 21:16:55 | Little_Apple | raspberries. |
| 21:17:39 | Little_Apple | wacommmmmmmm |
| 21:17:45 | Little_Apple | bambooooooo |
| 21:17:48 | Little_Apple | o |
| 21:19:35 | Little_Apple | who wants pie |
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| 21:20:19 | Little_Apple | nooo saaam! |
| 21:20:31 | Little_Apple | samwise the brave has fled. |
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| 21:22:05 | Little_Apple | yaaay |
| 21:22:39 | Little_Apple | oh raptor |
| 21:22:54 | raptor | raptor |
| 21:22:55 | Little_Apple | i hazza kweschun |
| 21:23:11 | | raptor doesn't understand gobbledygook |
| 21:23:27 | Little_Apple | where is the music file for mac in bitfighter? |
| 21:23:28 | karamazovapy | dumbledore did |
| 21:23:35 | karamazovapy | so did barty crouch sr. |
| 21:23:39 | karamazovapy | rest their souls |
| 21:23:53 | Little_Apple | IN HEELLLLL |
| 21:23:59 | Little_Apple | in heel? |
| 21:24:01 | Little_Apple | . |
| 21:24:08 | Little_Apple | ._. |
| 21:24:11 | karamazovapy | you're thinking soles |
| 21:24:21 | Little_Apple | ah |
| 21:24:44 | raptor | hahaha |
| 21:24:55 | Little_Apple | my jeans smell like cedar. |
| 21:25:14 | raptor | Little_Apple: create a folder called 'music' where your bitfighter.ini resides |
| 21:25:23 | Little_Apple | ok... |
| 21:25:24 | raptor | and put vorbis files in there |
| 21:25:35 | Little_Apple | i think i already did that |
| 21:25:41 | Little_Apple | but it didnt work |
| 21:26:11 | raptor | lowercase 'music' |
| 21:26:28 | Little_Apple | in the application support files or where the application is? |
| 21:26:41 | raptor | application support |
| 21:26:47 | Little_Apple | thats what i did |
| 21:26:49 | raptor | /Bitifighter/ |
| 21:26:52 | Little_Apple | didint works |
| 21:27:08 | Little_Apple | i know how to get to the application support files |
| 21:27:13 | Little_Apple | it didint workwork |
| 21:27:38 | raptor | did you put in a ogg vorbis music file in that folder, then restarted bitfighter? |
| 21:27:51 | Little_Apple | yep |
| 21:28:00 | Little_Apple | er |
| 21:28:03 | Little_Apple | i did the theme |
| 21:28:17 | raptor | ok, let me try... |
| 21:28:18 | Little_Apple | i dont remember if i added the rest |
| 21:29:14 | raptor | i can't believe how worthless Mac OS Lion is - they made a system that does less, is slower, and consumes more memory |
| 21:29:35 | karamazovapy | but raptor...it just works. |
| 21:29:40 | Little_Apple | lol |
| 21:30:02 | raptor | it works... but not if you want to get work done |
| 21:30:08 | Little_Apple | i dont like how they changed aound the paths to application supportssss and things |
| 21:30:18 | raptor | Little_Apple: they didn't |
| 21:30:24 | raptor | they just hid the folders |
| 21:30:30 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 21:30:54 | Little_Apple | but alot of other files that would normaly be in the aplication support files were moved |
| 21:31:05 | Little_Apple | its just a little confusing |
| 21:31:40 | raptor | where is a link to that theme again? |
| 21:31:51 | Little_Apple | tha forumz |
| 21:32:02 | raptor | do you have it readily available? |
| 21:32:08 | Little_Apple | me? |
| 21:32:18 | Little_Apple | who? |
| 21:32:25 | karamazovapy | you're the one pooping in a top hat |
| 21:32:46 | Little_Apple | oh its a hat! |
| 21:33:01 | Little_Apple | i thought its an occupy porta potty |
| 21:33:06 | karamazovapy | http://uploading.com/files/1aba4ca9/BITFIGHTER_THEME.ogg/ |
| 21:34:17 | Little_Apple | if you didnt catch that i was making a play on how occupy protesters poop in public. |
| 21:34:26 | Little_Apple | and other things... |
| 21:34:30 | raptor | ha! |
| 21:34:31 | raptor | ok |
| 21:34:33 | raptor | it's a bug |
| 21:34:33 | Little_Apple | lets go with poop. |
| 21:34:37 | Little_Apple | :D |
| 21:34:46 | raptor | let me see if i already fixed it.. |
| 21:35:16 | Little_Apple | moo |
| 21:37:11 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 21:37:34 | raptor | hello |
| 21:37:35 | Little_Apple | i have a picture for you |
| 21:37:42 | Little_Apple | http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/255/b/6/my_id_lololo_by_The_Hay_Guys_Cat.jpg |
| 21:38:02 | Little_Apple | isnt it beutiful? |
| 21:38:54 | Little_Apple | meow |
| 21:40:19 | Little_Apple | RAARRRAAAAAPPTTTORRRRRRRRRRR |
| 21:40:23 | Little_Apple | hhererhherherherherher |
| 21:40:45 | Little_Apple | hey hey hey! |
| 21:42:01 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 21:42:18 | raptor | interesting - it is still a bug |
| 21:42:23 | raptor | i guess i'll have to fix it.. |
| 21:42:38 | Little_Apple | oh key doe key |
| 21:43:10 | raptor | ohhh... haha |
| 21:43:13 | raptor | it is working ok |
| 21:43:18 | Little_Apple | :D |
| 21:43:22 | raptor | music is supposed to be in the APP |
| 21:43:32 | raptor | because it is a shared resource |
| 21:44:09 | Little_Apple | ok............ |
| 21:44:16 | Little_Apple | dotdotdot |
| 21:44:26 | raptor | so put it in Bitfighter.app/Contents/Resources/music |
| 21:44:33 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 21:44:39 | Little_Apple | make a music file? |
| 21:44:39 | raptor | you'll probably have to make the dir |
| 21:44:54 | raptor | the music directory, yes |
| 21:45:13 | Little_Apple | could you make a post on the forums or something? |
| 21:45:20 | raptor | nah |
| 21:45:30 | Little_Apple | lol |
| 21:46:07 | Little_Apple | so just add a 'music' file in the resources file and put the .ogg files in the music file? |
| 21:46:19 | raptor | directory |
| 21:46:20 | Little_Apple | wow file 4 times |
| 21:46:27 | raptor | is not a file |
| 21:46:32 | Little_Apple | er |
| 21:46:38 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 21:46:42 | raptor | music = directory; Resources = directory; ogg = file |
| 21:46:48 | Little_Apple | so not the application support then :P |
| 21:46:53 | raptor | correct |
| 21:47:17 | Little_Apple | so does this mean you need to re-add the music every time there is an update? :\ |
| 21:47:28 | Little_Apple | unless its addd as a default |
| 21:47:31 | raptor | yup |
| 21:47:41 | Little_Apple | uhh |
| 21:47:45 | raptor | it is a code problem |
| 21:48:01 | raptor | i've had many discussions with watusimoto on the issue - we need to continue them |
| 21:48:33 | raptor | find a way to solve it satisfactorily |
| 21:48:37 | Little_Apple | why cant they be in the sfx file? |
| 21:48:41 | Little_Apple | ._. |
| 21:48:54 | raptor | that is in the Resources directory, too |
| 21:49:05 | Little_Apple | yes i know |
| 21:49:18 | Little_Apple | but they dont need to be added every time there is an update |
| 21:49:38 | raptor | yes they do |
| 21:49:52 | raptor | everything in the .app is over written |
| 21:49:53 | Little_Apple | i mean added manually |
| 21:50:28 | Little_Apple | yes but the music files arent in the .app |
| 21:50:34 | raptor | exactly |
| 21:50:40 | raptor | this is why it's a code problem |
| 21:50:43 | Little_Apple | the sfx files are |
| 21:50:45 | Little_Apple | ish |
| 21:50:48 | Little_Apple | or something |
| 21:50:52 | raptor | correct |
| 21:51:07 | karamazovapy | you could have the directory written automatically, but we aren't bundling any music for the time being |
| 21:51:20 | Little_Apple | ok... |
| 21:52:02 | Little_Apple | lol |
| 21:52:09 | Little_Apple | that link you sent me _k |
| 21:52:18 | Little_Apple | it still hasnt loaded fully :P |
| 21:53:20 | Little_Apple | up! |
| 21:53:25 | Little_Apple | it finished :D |
| 21:53:29 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 21:54:45 | raptor | now that i think about it - it could be that we never bundle music |
| 21:54:59 | raptor | but provide a music addon pack |
| 21:55:06 | Little_Apple | :o |
| 21:55:24 | Little_Apple | i think music can make a game in some cases |
| 21:55:24 | raptor | this would mean on multi-user systems, we should probably have the music dir be user-specific |
| 21:55:50 | karamazovapy | I feel like this is an addon pack > http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1281&p=11909&hilit=ogg#p11682 |
| 21:56:36 | raptor | oh yeah.. |
| 21:57:11 | raptor | well, if it is more likely that people will just add in music in the future, then I should probably make the music dir in a non-shared location |
| 21:57:27 | raptor | (same place as bitfighter.ini) |
| 21:57:31 | karamazovapy | I think it's a novelty feature for the time being |
| 21:57:53 | Little_Apple | i kinda like having a default that you can change rather than adding something completely new |
| 21:57:59 | raptor | exactly - that is why i haven't really put *too* much thought into it.. |
| 21:58:22 | karamazovapy | LA - not sure I get you |
| 21:58:26 | Little_Apple | yay! |
| 21:59:02 | karamazovapy | and I think the "exactly" was regarding its novelty status |
| 21:59:08 | Little_Apple | i know |
| 21:59:22 | raptor | yes :) |
| 22:00:09 | Little_Apple | if there were to be a built in soundtrack it would need to be like the super meat boy soundtrack. |
| 22:00:12 | karamazovapy | I think having a theme play in the main menu might be nice, but I'm not sure the style of the game fits well with normal in-game music |
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| 22:01:43 | Little_Apple | what kind of normal in-game music? ._. |
| 22:01:50 | karamazovapy | but if we were to go that route, I think we would want a given track to loop for the entirety of a level...unless a future supervisor script could change the pace at key moments |
| 22:03:11 | karamazovapy | and in that case, I go back to this general train of thought: http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=369&p=5173#p2668 |
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| 22:04:58 | Little_Apple | we need to hire the london orchestra to play us some music for bitfighter. |
| 22:05:12 | raptor | so some sort of music reference in the level file |
| 22:05:34 | raptor | and would play the appropriate file (if you have it) |
| 22:05:52 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 22:05:57 | karamazovapy | right - but we would need to establish a general set of theme-types |
| 22:06:18 | karamazovapy | so you can pick the spooky theme for your level or the puzzle theme or whatever |
| 22:06:44 | karamazovapy | and we have a "default" pack you can download, but people can make their own packs with the same theme-titles and link to them |
| 22:07:39 | Little_Apple | but who would make tha myoosick? |
| 22:07:55 | karamazovapy | so if I make a dungeon and specify Theme Spooky, the "spooky" theme from whatever pack the user has selected plays when they load the map |
| 22:08:44 | karamazovapy | or you could go even further with something like Music [theme] [pack] |
| 22:08:51 | raptor | would it loop through songs in that theme? or are you thinking 1 song per theme |
| 22:08:57 | karamazovapy | 1 song per theme |
| 22:09:04 | karamazovapy | 1 song per level, unless the supervisor script gets involved |
| 22:09:27 | karamazovapy | a level line might look like: Music Spooky 8-bit |
| 22:09:30 | Little_Apple | WHERE WOULD THE MUSIC COME FROM??? |
| 22:09:39 | raptor | ok |
| 22:09:44 | karamazovapy | so bitfighter would look for spooky.ogg in the music\8-bit folder |
| 22:09:49 | raptor | so each 'pack' would have themed sub-dirs, then |
| 22:10:00 | raptor | ohh... |
| 22:10:04 | raptor | 1 song per theme |
| 22:10:05 | Little_Apple | WHERE WOULD THE MUSIC COME FROM??? |
| 22:10:05 | raptor | ok |
| 22:10:07 | karamazovapy | yes |
| 22:10:07 | raptor | i got it |
| 22:10:16 | karamazovapy | because typically, one song loops on a level for most games |
| 22:10:21 | raptor | yes |
| 22:10:39 | karamazovapy | unless you start to include mood shifts or something based on game-point type scenarios |
| 22:10:55 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 22:11:04 | Little_Apple | music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nnYVZ1L6Q |
| 22:11:04 | karamazovapy | /mute Little_Apple |
| 22:11:55 | Little_Apple | herrehhrehrehehhhreerreer |
| 22:12:05 | karamazovapy | anyway, that's the only way I can think of making music integration more useful and/or interesting than just telling people to use a separate application |
| 22:15:35 | raptor | hmmm |
| 22:15:49 | raptor | when you say 'theme' you just mean track name, correct? |
| 22:16:03 | karamazovapy | mostly |
| 22:16:12 | karamazovapy | except I'm also using it in the musical sense |
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| 22:16:21 | raptor | yes |
| 22:16:29 | karamazovapy | where a song represents a mood or style |
| 22:16:37 | raptor | ah |
| 22:16:42 | raptor | so in the grouping sense, too? |
| 22:16:55 | raptor | like multiple packs would have similar themes? |
| 22:17:06 | raptor | 8-bit spooky |
| 22:17:07 | karamazovapy | multiple packs would ideally have the same themes |
| 22:17:15 | karamazovapy | but different tracks to represent them |
| 22:18:35 | karamazovapy | so if you had a Led Zeppelin pack, you might pick Immigrant Song as fight.ogg |
| 22:18:52 | karamazovapy | The Rain Song might be chill.ogg |
| 22:19:34 | raptor | interesting... |
| 22:19:38 | karamazovapy | but the 8-bit pack would have its own fight.ogg and chill.ogg |
| 22:19:45 | raptor | ok |
| 22:20:01 | raptor | so this would be a way to narrow the options for level designers (make it easier to choose) |
| 22:20:16 | karamazovapy | right - and it would make the system more flexible for people who only have 1 pack installed |
| 22:20:38 | raptor | so would the fallback be to any other pack installed at the same theme? |
| 22:20:38 | karamazovapy | so "appropriate" music would always come up |
| 22:20:42 | raptor | ah, ok |
| 22:20:49 | karamazovapy | yeah, more or less |
| 22:21:13 | karamazovapy | I think users would pick their default pack, and that's what would be selected unless the designer specified a pack and the client happened to have it installed |
| 22:22:08 | karamazovapy | so I post the Led Zeppelin pack on the forums and I post a map that has Music Fight Led Zeppelin |
| 22:22:19 | karamazovapy | if you bothered to download my pack, Immigrant song plays |
| 22:22:37 | karamazovapy | if you only have the 8-bit pack installed, music\8-bit\fight.ogg plays instead |
| 22:24:29 | raptor | so it would be a bit of work for pack designers |
| 22:24:51 | karamazovapy | only in so much as they'd need to rename their tracks |
| 22:24:56 | raptor | we'd have to choose a set of themes |
| 22:25:07 | karamazovapy | you wouldn't even *have* to include all the themes in your pack if you didn't want to |
| 22:25:13 | raptor | yes |
| 22:25:37 | raptor | however, any default pack we'd distribute would have to be CC or similar |
| 22:25:45 | karamazovapy | and I suppose if you really wanted to get creative, you could create fight_1.ogg , fight_2.ogg |
| 22:26:02 | raptor | if we were to distribute on google code, i mean |
| 22:26:16 | karamazovapy | yeah, any default pack would have to be created specifically for the game or CC or similar |
| 22:26:37 | karamazovapy | but if we put it on google code, we might want something custom with short, loopable theme |
| 22:26:38 | karamazovapy | s |
| 22:26:58 | raptor | yeah... |
| 22:28:13 | karamazovapy | I'm up in the air about a default pack though, just because tastes vary so widely |
| 22:30:10 | raptor | huh... i'm on the vacuum box level |
| 22:30:17 | raptor | on your 2008 server |
| 22:30:29 | raptor | bursts don't hurt the ghost ships |
| 22:30:33 | raptor | but phasers do |
| 22:30:40 | raptor | was that always the behavior? |
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