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| 00:13:59 | TheBeard | alright, the night-time programming binge starts now :D |
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| 00:31:00 | sam686 | so, the problem isn't ALURE, isn't libogg? |
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| 00:33:19 | raptor | nope, the problem is not alure libogg or libvorbis |
| 00:33:35 | raptor | there is a memory corruption somewhere i think |
| 00:33:55 | IAmBeard | run it through valgrind? |
| 00:34:01 | sam686 | could i maybe see some of your simple test file that plays ogg music? |
| 00:34:21 | raptor | yes... let me get y ou the link |
| 00:34:40 | raptor | get the source here: http://kcat.strangesoft.net/alure-releases/alure-1.2.tar.bz2 |
| 00:34:55 | raptor | in the 'build' directory run: 'cmake ..' |
| 00:35:01 | raptor | then make |
| 00:35:04 | sam686 | valgrind doesn't show much (too much useless info), i tried yesterday... http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/valgrind4.txt |
| 00:35:26 | raptor | it will build alure with linking to libogg and libvorbis and make a binary called alurestream |
| 00:35:36 | raptor | open the menu.ogg with alurestream binary |
| 00:35:54 | raptor | (you might need to install cmake) |
| 00:42:03 | sam686 | ok, got your test working (but no crash) |
| 00:42:10 | raptor | yep |
| 00:42:25 | raptor | i though tmaybe we ran out of stack space on 32bit after that - but that doesn't make sense |
| 00:43:09 | raptor | i tried reducing the musicChunkLength, but that didn't work either |
| 00:45:20 | sam686 | --stack,8388608 in linker flags? |
| 00:47:52 | sam686 | i guess the problem isn't stack size4 |
| 00:50:59 | raptor | nope |
| 00:51:31 | raptor | i thought maybe the alureStream *stream pointer was wrong, but i tested to make sure it was set to NULL on creation |
| 00:54:07 | raptor | dinner time! |
| 00:55:31 | Heyub|2 | I had speghetti for dinner. |
| 01:05:29 | IAmBeard | raptor / sam686 are you gents limiting client-side frame rate for any reason? |
| 01:08:12 | raptor | FPS is set to 100 by default, but can be increased to 1000 |
| 01:08:21 | raptor | there is a /maxfps command you can change in-game |
| 01:13:21 | Heyub|2 | Why would you need more than 100fps? |
| 01:15:27 | IAmBeard | it's not that you need more, but I don't know that it's always good to limit the fps |
| 01:18:38 | Heyub|2 | Well it helps on slower computers to l imit the fps, then there must be a default fps. I don't know any games that dont have an fps limit. |
| 01:20:12 | IAmBeard | well, we could go the minecraft route and have two options "max performance (unlimited fps)" or "power saver (limited fps)" |
| 01:22:03 | Heyub|2 | Not sure how that would be any different than what is in place. |
| 01:23:18 | raptor | our current system works just fine, and bitfighter is low enough system usage that 100 fps doesn't really hurt anyone |
| 01:23:43 | raptor | any more than 60fps is undetectable to the human eye (consciously) |
| 01:24:04 | raptor | some say 30fps is good enough, but you can tell a little difference between that and 60 |
| 01:25:19 | raptor | ok, i'll be back tonight |
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| 01:29:16 | sam686 | there is /maxfps 1000 if you want more frame rate.. |
| 01:29:26 | sam686 | as in in-game command |
| 01:45:24 | IAmBeard | i'm not saying it's necessary to get a billion frames per second, but getting max fps can be good for benchmarking and such |
| 01:47:34 | IAmBeard | for void parseComplexStringToMap in stringUtils.cpp, is it possible for the value to be enclosed in a string and therefore it could have the entrySeperator? |
| 01:47:59 | IAmBeard | I'm removing the boost dependancy there (since the algo is fairly basic, anyway), and just want to make sure I'm not missing anything |
| 01:50:14 | sam686 | not sure yet |
| 01:51:11 | IAmBeard | i'm not familiar with boost, so i wasn't sure if the boost::tokenizer managed that internally |
| 01:58:24 | sam686 | maybe i can try rewriting the parseComplexStringToMap to not use boost.. |
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| 02:06:20 | IAmBeard | sam686, i can give you my version |
| 02:07:30 | IAmBeard | sam686, http://pastie.org/3846629 |
| 02:08:28 | sam686 | ok, i can test that |
| 02:11:10 | sam686 | your version have a "endless loop" problem.. |
| 02:31:03 | IAmBeard | it shouldn't, but i can fix |
| 02:31:20 | IAmBeard | anyway, night-run to mcdonalds! |
| 02:31:40 | sam686 | almost doen fixing your parseComplexStringToMap.. |
| 02:42:41 | sam686 | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/text1205/120501_21-05-05.txt i am very very close to fixing (one small problem, it still doesn't quite work) |
| 02:44:04 | sam686 | or maybe that does work, something else is broken on the latest release? |
| 02:44:22 | sam686 | latest hg i meant |
| 02:52:29 | sam686 | i got to test the changes on the link i put and it works ok |
| 02:53:18 | sam686 | IAmBeard , parseComplexStringToMap is working without boost (on my link) just remove the printf |
| 02:54:45 | sam686 | or you can use this for parseComplexStringToMap (theres is no printf in here) http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/text1205/120501_21-05-18.txt |
| 03:16:30 | Heyub|2 | I'm off for the night, good night guys! |
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| 03:22:34 | sam686 | msg hi raptor, I have narrowed down the problem to one cpp test file. make http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/test2_alure.zip Put test2 into bitfighter folder, and cd test2, and make, cd ../exe, ./musictest |
| 03:22:51 | raptor | hi, ok, i'll test... |
| 03:28:42 | raptor | ubuntu 12.04 makes me want to gouge my eyes out... |
| 03:29:56 | sam686 | you could change desktop background to black or gray or some other picture... |
| 03:30:04 | IAmBeard | anything after ubuntu 9 makes me quite angry |
| 03:30:15 | IAmBeard | i liked classic gnome |
| 03:31:21 | IAmBeard | anywho, it's bedtime for me |
| 03:31:36 | sam686 | like this ubuntu? http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/11Screenshot.png |
| 03:32:00 | sam686 | my laptop lcd is kind of limited to 1024 x 576... |
| 03:32:11 | raptor | how did you get the bar on the bottom again? |
| 03:32:34 | sam686 | i don't know, it was there since i install it 2 years ago |
| 03:32:45 | sam686 | they might have recently changed that on later version |
| 03:34:12 | sam686 | maybe it might be posssible to install gnome? |
| 03:34:57 | sam686 | or maybe its in the themes? |
| 03:35:46 | sam686 | http://www.techjail.net/howto-get-old-gnome-ubuntu-look-back-in-11-04-lucid-lynx.html |
| 03:36:00 | sam686 | says to log out, and "Then select �Gnome� at the bottom of your PC." |
| 03:38:51 | IAmBeard | night gents |
| 03:38:56 | raptor | good night |
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| 03:39:37 | raptor | ok sam686, i get the crash with your file |
| 03:39:47 | raptor | anything look funny to you? |
| 03:40:50 | sam686 | they look like mostly the same problem (and nearly the same backtrace apart from not going through ClientGame in a test2/main.cpp) |
| 03:41:24 | sam686 | so that means the problem is not Zap, not TNL, |
| 03:42:13 | sam686 | the problem is either: alure, libogg, libvorbisfile or inputting bad date in test2/main.cpp |
| 03:42:28 | sam686 | data (not date) |
| 03:42:33 | raptor | well, the problem isn't libogg or libvorbis |
| 03:42:43 | raptor | and i don't think alure |
| 03:42:49 | raptor | so that leaves bad data? |
| 03:43:04 | sam686 | maybe, but whats wrong with it? |
| 03:43:44 | raptor | i have no idea |
| 03:54:31 | sam686 | looks like I got the usleep wrong ("define Sleep usleep" should be "static void Sleep(unsigned int A) {usleep(A * 1000);} " |
| 03:55:20 | sam686 | \ Sleep ( 1 / 1000 seconds) usleep (1 / 1000000 seocnds) |
| 03:58:47 | raptor | ah |
| 03:58:55 | raptor | usleep is microseconds |
| 05:01:37 | raptor | well, i've been talking with the openal dev |
| 05:01:52 | raptor | he said to compile against libsndfile as a test |
| 05:02:09 | raptor | i did, and it plays just find, no crashing (libsndfile links against libvorbis) |
| 05:02:16 | raptor | *just fine |
| 05:12:56 | raptor | sam686: i compiled against dynamic libalure.so.1 (instead of libalure.a) and it runs ok |
| 05:18:54 | sam686 | so maybe libalure was the problem? |
| 05:19:11 | raptor | looks like it is libalure, or how I compiled it... |
| 05:19:52 | sam686 | it looks like we do our own libalure compiling (in bitfighter folder) |
| 05:19:58 | raptor | yes |
| 05:19:59 | sam686 | so it may be fixable.. |
| 05:20:47 | sam686 | maybe a dynamic lib may be better, saves disk space and avoid the need to compile alure |
| 05:21:04 | sam686 | but will then need to install libalure lib.. |
| 05:21:28 | raptor | yeah, and that doesn't exist on many distros |
| 05:22:42 | raptor | ok, it's a building problem i think |
| 05:22:55 | raptor | i just linked against the libalure-static.a from the source archive, and it runs fine |
| 05:52:32 | raptor | i've been playing around with the config.h and Makefile, adjusting all sorts of settings, but still crashes |
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| 05:58:32 | sam686 | well, that one little crashy problem we are spending so much time on... |
| 05:58:39 | sam686 | and it is already past midnight |
| 05:58:49 | raptor | yeah... |
| 05:58:55 | raptor | it's driving me crazy |
| 06:09:43 | raptor | i got it to work |
| 06:09:53 | raptor | let me see now i need to narrow it down |
| 06:23:23 | raptor | solved it |
| 06:32:28 | sam686 | ok, so what shoudl i do to fix it? a simple hg pull if you made changes? |
| 06:32:39 | raptor | question |
| 06:33:06 | raptor | on 32bit machine what is 'typedef long' ? |
| 06:33:16 | raptor | is that different than on 64bit machine? |
| 06:34:12 | sam686 | not sure.. |
| 06:36:00 | raptor | i need to find out what a 'long long' is on 64 bit |
| 06:36:18 | sam686 | sizeof(long long)? |
| 06:36:27 | sam686 | sizeof(size_t)? |
| 06:39:13 | raptor | ok, committed the fix |
| 06:40:33 | | BFLogBot - Commit 21ee5c002c17 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix sound crash in 32-bit Linux. I can't believe how long this took to fix |
| 06:51:57 | sam686 | ok, about one more minute to compile, to test if it works for me |
| 06:52:15 | raptor | what a small thing that caused such a big error... |
| 06:53:13 | sam686 | trying to find the problem is hard, fixing it is easy once found.. |
| 06:53:58 | raptor | i bet it crashed on 32bit x86 mac, too |
| 06:55:33 | sam686 | maybe not, because mac is done very differently (windows is done differently too) |
| 06:55:46 | sam686 | like, how did the alure came from for windows and not crash? |
| 06:56:37 | sam686 | i see libvorbisfile.dll and .lib but no compiling of libvorbis.. |
| 06:56:43 | sam686 | in windows |
| 06:56:45 | raptor | that's because I didn't compile it against the headers in the bitfighter repo |
| 06:57:07 | raptor | it only failed because it compiled against the libogg/ headers |
| 06:57:08 | sam686 | it could of also crash on windows if done that way, i bet |
| 06:57:15 | raptor | yes |
| 06:58:01 | sam686 | it does work now after that fix (no crash) |
| 06:58:08 | raptor | yay!! |
| 06:58:17 | raptor | I retriggered my linux packages |
| 06:58:25 | raptor | but ubuntu will fall behind again, i'm sure |
| 07:02:18 | raptor | ok, well time for bed |
| 07:02:20 | raptor | good night! |
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| 13:37:22 | IAmBeard | good/bad news; i'm sort of sick today, meaning i may put a little time into bitfighter programming, but probably not a lot |
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| 13:55:11 | Heyub | I killed the off-topic discussions lol |
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| 14:53:18 | raptor | good morning! |
| 14:57:37 | raptor | watusimoto: we solved the 32bit music playing bug |
| 14:57:47 | raptor | and i re-triggered the linux builds with a patch |
| 15:46:12 | raptor | so i should get probably get a github account... |
| 15:46:21 | raptor | now i need to come up with another pseudonym |
| 15:47:25 | Heyub | gothub. |
| 15:49:00 | raptor | say what |
| 15:49:18 | Heyub | "git" hub, so you "got" hub |
| 15:50:17 | Heyub | I suppose accents don't do well over the text :P |
| 15:50:35 | raptor | oh.. uh,, hardy har har... |
| 15:51:42 | raptor | yeah... it's a real skill to convey full ideas over plain text |
| 15:51:49 | raptor | one that i do not have |
| 15:52:26 | Heyub | I live in northern Al, and the accent here is thick as clay. |
| 15:52:38 | raptor | Alabama? |
| 15:52:43 | Heyub | Yeah. |
| 15:52:51 | raptor | wow, i believe it... |
| 15:54:42 | Heyub | My mom suFriendliest place I've ever lived in... A bit strange at times though... |
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| 15:56:29 | Heyub | People get upset when someone shoots their "pet" deer. |
| 15:56:35 | raptor | haha |
| 15:56:38 | raptor | that's awesome |
| 15:56:49 | raptor | err.. not the shooting, but the idea |
| 15:56:58 | raptor | unless they're hungry |
| 15:57:18 | Heyub | A lot of people hunt deer here. |
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| 15:57:35 | Heyub | Im probably the only teenager for 100 miles that hasn't hunted lol |
| 15:58:40 | Heyub | Our property is right next to property owned by a hunting club, drives mom crazy when they wander onto our land. |
| 16:01:00 | raptor | i bet |
| 16:25:11 | IAmBeard | Heyub, where abouts are you from? |
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| 19:23:21 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 19:23:29 | raptor | hi |
| 19:25:02 | raptor | did you see the fix to the crazy 32bit crash |
| 19:25:57 | Watusimoto | ha |
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| 19:26:13 | Watusimoto | our bug or theirs? |
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| 19:26:22 | raptor | both? |
| 19:26:34 | Watusimoto | well, good catch |
| 19:26:37 | raptor | my problem was that i used the 64bit headers for libogg |
| 19:26:56 | raptor | i had no idea that a 'long' on 64bit was different than on 32bit |
| 19:28:04 | raptor | but why on earth would you ever use anything different than 'long long' if it is the same on all platforms, and 'long' is different? |
| 19:28:17 | raptor | so that part is the libogg peoples problem |
| 19:28:21 | raptor | (if it's a problem) |
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| 19:36:28 | raptor | i retriggered my linux builds... |
| 19:36:37 | raptor | but not sure what to do about ubuntu |
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| 19:41:08 | Watusimoto | not much to do... |
| 19:41:23 | raptor | !bug |
| 19:41:23 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug, please make sure it is reproducible and then go to http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list | Also, see current running bug list: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List |
| 19:41:32 | Watusimoto | bump up the versino number and release a linux version? |
| 19:41:37 | raptor | those two evil editor bugs |
| 19:41:54 | raptor | i just added a patch |
| 19:42:12 | raptor | probably not many were affected |
| 19:42:38 | | BFLogBot - Commit f2101757cb09 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Macroize the luaw code needed for implementing classes |
| 19:42:40 | | BFLogBot - Commit 8da8fbf814de | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge |
| 19:44:01 | raptor | macro! |
| 19:44:57 | raptor | {P{P |
| 19:45:01 | raptor | what is that |
| 19:45:10 | raptor | saerch string |
| 20:05:22 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 20:05:58 | Watusimoto | it's a marker I use sometimes... easy to type, unique |
| 20:12:46 | | BFLogBot - Commit ffa51cda2051 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Remove commented code |
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| 20:59:29 | raptor | self-conscious about the {P{P eh? |
| 21:00:05 | sam686 | what is a " { P { P " ? |
| 21:02:51 | Watusimoto | it's a comment to myself |
| 21:03:06 | Watusimoto | secret meaning |
| 21:03:10 | Watusimoto | kind of like a rune |
| 21:03:10 | sam686 | oh, i see that in some of latest changes |
| 21:04:16 | IAmBeard | }P}P |
| 21:04:31 | IAmBeard | Watusimoto, how many times have i told you to close the braces |
| 21:04:33 | IAmBeard | !!! |
| 21:04:35 | IAmBeard | :P |
| 21:04:49 | raptor | a rune - i like that |
| 21:04:57 | Watusimoto | oh, maybe that was my problem |
| 21:05:04 | Watusimoto | thanks! |
| 21:05:26 | Heyub|2 | Witch craft. |
| 21:10:22 | Watusimoto | I give up -- which craft? |
| 21:13:19 | Heyub|2 | "runes small stones, pieces of bone, etc., bearing such marks, and used as divinatory sumbols. A spell or incantation" |
| 21:15:22 | raptor | like in-game achievements! |
| 21:15:39 | Heyub|2 | LOL wow... I had not... I... |
| 21:21:45 | IAmBeard | what are you trying to say raptor? :P |
| 21:24:33 | raptor | footloose says loadouts with numpad still isn't working... |
| 21:25:57 | IAmBeard | gents, any idea where dSprintf() is declared in the code? |
| 21:26:21 | IAmBeard | the top-row number keys and numpad may need different key codes, and will need nunmlock on |
| 21:26:25 | IAmBeard | *numlock |
| 21:26:54 | raptor | they have different keycode, and numlock doesn't matter at the framework level, i think (with SDL) |
| 21:27:27 | IAmBeard | i haven't tried numpad stuff with sdl before, so I'm not sure |
| 21:27:48 | IAmBeard | is footloose's bitfighter client using SDL 1.2 or 1.3/2.0? |
| 21:28:07 | raptor | no one is on sdl 2.0 |
| 21:28:12 | sam686 | tnlPlatform.h have dSprintf |
| 21:28:14 | raptor | except windows devs |
| 21:29:32 | Watusimoto | platform.cpp, 485 |
| 21:29:57 | sam686 | many laptop users don't have the extra button to fit the numpad, it is a number lock to turn some letters into numbers in laptop, i guess |
| 21:30:37 | sam686 | some laptop and netbook don't have number lock and no such number pad on it (like my tiny laptop without no cd rom reader) |
| 21:32:39 | IAmBeard | well, most have a numlock as a Fn+key |
| 21:33:01 | IAmBeard | ^ that is, if it's a laptop |
| 21:33:06 | | BFLogBot - Commit a6717e08ef9f | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Move resource item over to luaW -- much duplicated code to investigate |
| 21:39:40 | raptor | Watusimoto: you prefer one line methods to be one line? :) |
| 21:40:06 | Watusimoto | only when it's preferable! |
| 21:40:40 | Watusimoto | if you are referring to my grouping of similar string defs in MoveObject, I think it's much easier to read |
| 21:40:53 | Watusimoto | and to understand, and therefore yes, in this case I do |
| 21:46:52 | IAmBeard | after breaking a substantial amount of code, I finally cleaned up one class :P I'm on a roll |
| 21:46:53 | IAmBeard | hah |
| 21:50:12 | IAmBeard | gents, with the current map format, if i put a random line of garbage into the file, would it just skip that line, or would it toss an error out? |
| 21:52:22 | raptor | skip-de-doo |
| 21:56:42 | IAmBeard | awesome possum, that means we can add things in as we go |
| 21:56:47 | raptor | every time i see the level line loading code, i think of this: http://xkcd.com/292/ |
| 21:57:22 | IAmBeard | GOTO, reminds me of the good olde qbasic days |
| 21:58:26 | Watusimoto | We've had a lot of discussions about the level code, what it might look like if not what we have |
| 21:59:30 | Watusimoto | No good resolution |
| 21:59:37 | Watusimoto | we've discussed a xml like format |
| 21:59:48 | Watusimoto | something that's parsable svg |
| 22:00:01 | Watusimoto | a series of key-value pairs |
| 22:00:06 | Watusimoto | lua code |
| 22:00:26 | Watusimoto | though actually, with levelgens, you can already do a whole level as lua code |
| 22:00:32 | Watusimoto | or almost the whole level |
| 22:01:51 | Watusimoto | but it needs to be easily readable |
| 22:02:07 | Watusimoto | lots of levelmakers tweak their code by hand |
| 22:12:28 | IAmBeard | i think the format you have is good |
| 22:13:01 | IAmBeard | it's extensible and it works |
| 22:13:45 | IAmBeard | one thing i was thinking of doing for my version is tossing the levelgen along with applicable scripts into a zip file |
| 22:14:10 | IAmBeard | so a level would be something like foobar.zip which would have a levelgen, and custom actions/whatever for the map |
| 22:14:31 | IAmBeard | possibly some background images, too |
| 22:15:00 | IAmBeard | it would certainly break compatibility, to an extent, but it would be fairly easy to manage, and the zip file would make it compress fairly well |
| 22:15:10 | Watusimoto | it's a good idea |
| 22:15:22 | Watusimoto | I'm heading to bed; we can discuss this more tomorrow |
| 22:15:28 | Watusimoto | night! |
| 22:15:32 | IAmBeard | yeah man, have a good one |
| 22:16:44 | raptor | night |
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| 23:24:24 | Heyub|2 | If you pulse at the same time you go over speed arrow the speed arrows don't do anything. |
| 23:28:05 | IAmBeard | pulse, as in shoot? |
| 23:28:13 | IAmBeard | it may be that you're hitting the projectile |
| 23:28:22 | IAmBeard | you can do the same with a burst |
| 23:28:27 | Heyub|2 | No, as in pressing turbo twice. |
| 23:28:30 | IAmBeard | let me doubel check |
| 23:28:42 | IAmBeard | huh |
| 23:33:29 | sam686 | probably you are already going too fast past the speed arrows for the speed arrow to make you go faster (in a direction you are going) |
| 23:34:11 | Heyub|2 | I am hitting the speed arrows going the same directiont hey are pointing, if that is what your asking. |
| 23:35:02 | sam686 | yes, in that case, you are probably going faster then the speed the gofast (speedzone) is set to. |
| 23:36:45 | IAmBeard | gg ir0x539 |
| 23:37:31 | ir0x539 | haha yea |
| 23:39:22 | IAmBeard | sam686 is the gridDB part of the physics calculations? |
| 23:40:01 | IAmBeard | it appears to be but I just want to be absolutely sure |
