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| 01:45:50 | Little_Apple | helloo |
| 01:47:07 | Heyub | hi |
| 01:47:30 | Little_Apple | sup sup |
| 02:03:42 | Little_Apple | SUUUUUUUUP |
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| 15:09:30 | raptor | good morning! |
| 15:09:39 | Heyub | Hello |
| 15:09:56 | Heyub | When does voting end? |
| 15:10:03 | raptor | thursday |
| 15:10:07 | raptor | is that today? |
| 15:10:09 | raptor | hmm |
| 15:10:11 | Heyub | Its tomorrow |
| 15:10:15 | raptor | gotta wake up more.. |
| 15:10:43 | Heyub | I done slept in today... its 10AM here |
| 15:11:22 | raptor | school break? |
| 15:11:40 | Heyub | UNfortunately, no. |
| 15:12:04 | Heyub | But my school is right behind my computer desk. |
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| 15:18:39 | raptor | cool |
| 15:21:32 | Heyub | Not really, my teacher (mom) is never here to give me the tests and quizzes and gets upset because they never get done. |
| 15:21:45 | raptor | :-/ |
| 15:22:19 | raptor | i think home school can be a great idea - but it needs to be executed properly |
| 15:26:12 | Heyub | Yes, it went well for the first 10 years |
| 15:26:30 | Heyub | Then mom got bored of it I guess. |
| 15:31:10 | Heyub | well, last year didn't go well either, but there wer medical issues that year. |
| 15:33:16 | Heyub | last year was really weird school year for me lol |
| 15:33:30 | Heyub | I worked through the summer but I almost did school every other day... |
| 15:33:47 | raptor | have you ever gone to a local community college? |
| 15:33:55 | Heyub | Hah |
| 15:34:06 | Heyub | Schools around here aint worth it |
| 15:34:14 | raptor | I skipped my senior year and went to college instead |
| 15:34:17 | raptor | really? |
| 15:34:21 | Heyub | yeah |
| 15:34:31 | Heyub | The standards are low |
| 15:35:01 | Heyub | Im thinking going to a boarding school with the people who also do my homeschool cirriculum |
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| 15:35:23 | Heyub | Not sure about going to their college though, |
| 15:35:43 | Heyub | my brother and sister both went there. They got a new boss of the palce now, and neither my brother or sister like him. |
| 15:35:47 | raptor | so i've found state community colleges to be inexpensive, but still have good classes |
| 15:35:58 | raptor | because there is fewer head count per class |
| 15:37:29 | Heyub | Well... In the long run I want a piece of paper saying I learned it. I want to develop my own game some day, and in all honesty I could learn all I need on the internet. |
| 15:39:02 | Heyub | So in that sense Im not terribly concernd which I go to |
| 15:39:09 | raptor | have you thought about doing something in the engineering disciplines? because honestly, there isn't really a future for anyone in game programming past a few years |
| 15:39:31 | Heyub | hah! |
| 15:39:32 | raptor | (which is why it's a hobby for me :) |
| 15:40:26 | Heyub | I have seen countless indy games sell thousands of coppies here http://store.steampowered.com/ |
| 15:40:35 | raptor | yes |
| 15:40:42 | Heyub | But yes, I do plan on getting a job in the mean time, I don't want my life to depend on a game. |
| 15:41:27 | raptor | but the devs for those games almost always go on the develop other more useful stuff... |
| 15:41:47 | raptor | ok, good idea |
| 15:41:58 | raptor | sounds like you're smart already... |
| 15:42:34 | Heyub | If all I wanted to do is make my own game I wouldn't feel the need to go to college lol |
| 15:42:41 | raptor | haha |
| 15:44:49 | Heyub | The key with indy games is cheep and widely available, which is why they go to steam. |
| 15:45:27 | Heyub | Very few cost more than 15$ |
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| 17:08:57 | | BFLogBot - Commit 18a49afcaa56 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix 'Allow Robots' level option not saving |
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| 17:58:01 | Little_Apple | helloo |
| 17:59:47 | Little_Apple | HEY HEY HEY! |
| 18:00:19 | Little_Apple | HEEEEEEYYYYYYyy |
| 18:01:24 | Little_Apple | HEEEEEYEYYEYEYEYEYE |
| 18:05:02 | raptor | hi |
| 18:06:49 | raptor | Actually, Little_Apple |
| 18:06:54 | raptor | I know something you can do for me |
| 18:07:19 | raptor | test an alpha version of Bitfighter 018 on your Intel Mac, and see if the crashing problem goes away |
| 18:14:33 | Little_Apple | ok :D |
| 18:14:46 | Little_Apple | it takes a while for it to start crashing though ._. |
| 18:15:01 | raptor | yes, I am aware of that... |
| 18:15:09 | Little_Apple | and im playing tf2 :P |
| 18:15:59 | raptor | you could just open it in windows mode and leave it in a game... |
| 18:16:06 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 18:16:17 | Little_Apple | i can leave tf2 |
| 18:16:22 | Little_Apple | im not doing too well :P |
| 18:16:42 | Little_Apple | my team keeps losing xD |
| 18:18:31 | raptor | ok Little_Apple: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/Bitfighter-018-alpha-mac-intel.zip |
| 18:18:56 | Little_Apple | thanks :D |
| 18:19:05 | raptor | no, thank you |
| 18:19:11 | Little_Apple | no, thank you |
| 18:19:14 | raptor | you can try the new /idle command, too :) |
| 18:19:16 | Little_Apple | :D |
| 18:19:22 | raptor | can't remember what else is there... |
| 18:19:27 | raptor | broken bots, probably |
| 18:19:36 | Little_Apple | the yes/no bot thing in editor |
| 18:19:45 | raptor | oh yeah, just fixed that, too |
| 18:19:59 | Little_Apple | and the + in front of the names |
| 18:20:25 | Little_Apple | it still says 017 b :P |
| 18:20:35 | raptor | what1? |
| 18:21:02 | Little_Apple | wheres the upload link? |
| 18:21:34 | raptor | hmmm.... maybe i made a mistake.. |
| 18:21:41 | Little_Apple | i think you gave me the wrong version... |
| 18:21:53 | raptor | oops |
| 18:21:55 | raptor | i did |
| 18:21:57 | Little_Apple | :D |
| 18:22:01 | Little_Apple | hlol |
| 18:22:08 | Little_Apple | WHERED THAT H COME FROM |
| 18:22:41 | raptor | ok, recompiling. please give me a couple min. |
| 18:22:52 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 18:23:51 | Little_Apple | watchin star trek :P |
| 18:24:01 | raptor | which series? |
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| 18:24:46 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 18:24:48 | Little_Apple | the original series |
| 18:26:49 | raptor | i wonder if i should try and watch that again |
| 18:30:25 | raptor | OK Little_Apple: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/Bitfighter-018-alpha-mac-intel-try2.zip |
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| 18:32:22 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 18:32:43 | Little_Apple | downloadin |
| 18:33:14 | kodaws | mac crashing? |
| 18:33:17 | kodaws | impossible!!! |
| 18:33:31 | raptor | kodaws: SDL 1.2.15 wasn't so kind to the Mac |
| 18:33:52 | raptor | anything other than fullscreen would crash, most likely by eating system resources |
| 18:33:56 | Little_Apple | ok! this is the right version :D |
| 18:34:20 | Little_Apple | /idle is cool :P |
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| 18:59:07 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 18:59:48 | Little_Apple | raptor: i found a bug! :D |
| 19:00:53 | Little_Apple | heeeellllooooo |
| 19:04:08 | raptor | hi |
| 19:06:23 | raptor | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload3.php |
| 19:07:07 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 19:07:21 | raptor | youtube is fine |
| 19:08:09 | Little_Apple | um... |
| 19:08:19 | raptor | how big is the file? |
| 19:08:34 | Little_Apple | like... |
| 19:08:40 | Little_Apple | 9.2MB |
| 19:08:45 | raptor | should upload fine |
| 19:08:46 | Little_Apple | is that too big? .__. |
| 19:08:53 | raptor | brb |
| 19:09:07 | Little_Apple | k |
| 19:10:22 | Little_Apple | i think youtube would work better |
| 19:10:31 | Little_Apple | the video isnt loading |
| 19:13:18 | Little_Apple | here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-WPWhTlcOs&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 19:13:55 | Little_Apple | it might be a mac thing |
| 19:16:27 | Little_Apple | raptor: ? |
| 19:18:24 | | Little_Apple is awesome. |
| 19:20:06 | raptor | back |
| 19:20:08 | raptor | i look |
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| 19:21:20 | raptor | Little_Apple: interesting - and you were in windowed mode? |
| 19:22:52 | Little_Apple | yep |
| 19:23:36 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 19:23:40 | raptor | hello |
| 19:23:54 | Watusimoto | I'm getting really annoyed with luaW |
| 19:23:58 | raptor | well Little_Apple, that is just plain weird |
| 19:24:02 | raptor | Watusimoto: :( |
| 19:24:07 | Watusimoto | I much better understand the problem now |
| 19:24:14 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 19:24:23 | raptor | Watusimoto: really? |
| 19:24:33 | Watusimoto | though I don;t really have a grasp of the details of why the bots crash, but I see that I made some mistakes in the proxy impelementation |
| 19:25:03 | Watusimoto | I'm considering reverting to stock luaW, readding our registration stuff (which is sound) and reconsidering the whole approach to proxying |
| 19:25:14 | Watusimoto | see if we can do it with shared ptrs, for example |
| 19:25:28 | Watusimoto | or something |
| 19:25:40 | raptor | hmmm |
| 19:25:46 | Watusimoto | but... with shared ptrs... we'd need to use them throughout |
| 19:25:54 | raptor | ugh |
| 19:25:59 | Watusimoto | and who knows what that would mean |
| 19:26:04 | raptor | whatabout RefPtf? |
| 19:26:11 | raptor | or one of the TNL ones instead? |
| 19:26:18 | Watusimoto | maybe would work |
| 19:26:23 | Watusimoto | I thought you liked shared_ptr? |
| 19:26:33 | raptor | me? |
| 19:26:37 | Watusimoto | you |
| 19:26:44 | Little_Apple | rice cake? |
| 19:26:49 | Watusimoto | you introduced them to the code! |
| 19:27:06 | Watusimoto | you convinced me to use them (in some places) |
| 19:27:10 | raptor | I remember suggesting them... |
| 19:27:20 | Little_Apple | lol :P |
| 19:27:22 | Watusimoto | well, it hardly matters |
| 19:27:50 | Watusimoto | maybe I'll take another stab at the proxy issue |
| 19:27:52 | raptor | well - I may be slightly repentive... now that i see the complexity of the header includes... |
| 19:27:57 | Watusimoto | :-) |
| 19:29:11 | Little_Apple | so its all raptor's fault? |
| 19:29:15 | Little_Apple | c: |
| 19:29:53 | raptor | still no crash Little_Apple? |
| 19:30:30 | Little_Apple | nope |
| 19:34:07 | Little_Apple | doobeedoobee doobaa |
| 19:34:27 | Little_Apple | heh |
| 19:34:34 | Little_Apple | no levelgens in 018 |
| 19:34:36 | Little_Apple | :P |
| 19:34:46 | Little_Apple | luaaaaaa |
| 19:35:58 | raptor | yes it's borken |
| 19:36:10 | Little_Apple | lol |
| 19:36:15 | Little_Apple | borken :D |
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| 19:48:42 | Little_Apple_ | raptor: |
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| 19:48:54 | Little_Apple_ | about the dissapearing cursor thing |
| 19:49:05 | Little_Apple_ | its probably a safari/lion thing |
| 19:51:54 | Little_Apple_ | zap zappity zap! |
| 19:52:24 | Little_Apple_ | laaattterrrsssss |
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| 20:05:30 | Watusimoto | there was in fact a big memory leak in our modified luaW |
| 20:05:33 | Watusimoto | think that is fixed now |
| 20:05:38 | Watusimoto | valgrind should be happier |
| 20:05:59 | Watusimoto | not so much a big memory leak as a frequenly ocurring small memory leak |
| 20:06:05 | Watusimoto | that added up to a big one |
| 20:06:32 | Watusimoto | testing a new approach |
| 20:06:50 | Watusimoto | objects being deleted, score is 57-0 |
| 20:13:21 | Watusimoto | 240-2 |
| 20:27:40 | Watusimoto | 633-7 |
| 20:30:40 | Watusimoto | no increase in memory consumption |
| 20:34:51 | | BFLogBot - Commit 6fc2413f54f8 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Better bot fix -- fixes memory leak and bot crashing in all tests to date |
| 20:34:52 | | BFLogBot - Commit 44974856bf6b | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge |
| 20:36:19 | Watusimoto | raptor: please test this when you get a chance. This might be it |
| 20:39:55 | | BFLogBot - Commit eceefdef4edb | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Undo older temporary non-fixing fix |
| 21:22:48 | Watusimoto | heading for bed. really tired. good night! |
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| 22:38:39 | raptor | oh my goodness it works |
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