#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-08-11

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00:11:37 raptor ok heading home
00:11:44 raptor bye!
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02:10:54 raptor hi sam686
02:11:05 sam686 hi
02:11:40 raptor want to do some more playtesting/bugfixing?
02:12:31 raptor i'm not going to do heat seeker stuff yet because i think watusimoto is playing around with it still..
02:23:37 sam686 The white sparkling really turns out to be a video overlay behind bitfighter window, where the video overlay have a mask color, usually dark pink.. I even saw a white outline around text because of that overlay...
02:23:51 sam686 at least on my case it was that..
02:32:58 raptor weird
02:33:03 raptor i had a segmentation fault
02:33:13 raptor did you do anything?
02:33:31 sam686 i was just changing maps, then you seem to have left the game
02:33:43 raptor i'll restart in gdb
02:44:08 sam686 one of a robot I have seem to have a memory leak... My memory usage of bitfighter dedicated went from 5 MB to 25 MB
02:44:46 raptor maybe it's just the various types?
02:44:59 sam686 must be engineer bot memory leak
02:45:26 sam686 must be, getting requested loadout leaks memory?
02:45:34 raptor lua problem?  or maybe just how the bot is used?
02:46:01 sam686 also 100 engineer robot sometimes freezes my dedicated...
02:46:13 sam686 even thouth they are doing nothing...
02:46:39 sam686 memory usage of dedicated grew to 120 MB
02:46:46 raptor oh wow!!
02:48:25 sam686 memory usage is 155 MB now (even with no robots in game anymore after level switched)
02:48:55 sam686 http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/robots/    possible problem of memory leak on engineer.bot
02:49:35 raptor what do you think, getCurrLoadout() on every tick?
02:49:54 sam686 probably bot:getCurrLoadout() might be leaking memory?
02:50:16 sam686 the reason of getting current loadout is to check if we entered loadout zone and have changed modules
02:56:35 raptor segfault
02:56:53 raptor http://pastie.org/4453370
02:57:30 sam686 Zap::GameType::advanceGameClock (this= !!!NULLL!!!
02:57:56 raptor did you segfault, too?
02:57:59 sam686 Zap::GameTimer::update (this=0x168  Probably bad pointer..
02:57:59 sam686 no
02:58:29 sam686 maybe your lagging make it happen more likely (and idling too long)
02:59:11 raptor i don't ever remember seeing that advanceGameClock method before..
02:59:22 raptor was that added recentlY?
02:59:30 sam686 but i can always try running multiple clients and see if any one crash..
03:00:59 sam686 now 2 clients of my 4 crashes on nearly the same stack trace
03:02:14 sam686 ClientGame.cpp line 518, possible NULL getGameType()
03:03:50 sam686 ok, fixing and pushing that one problem...
03:04:00 raptor ok
03:05:42 sam686 (986a5ff3d166) Fix possible NULL getGameType()
03:05:47 raptor ha
03:08:03 BFLogBot - Commit 986a5ff3d166 | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fix possible NULL getGameType()
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04:36:09 raptor back
04:36:15 raptor not for too long...
04:48:19 sam686 hi
04:48:56 sam686 so you are back for too short of time?
04:49:20 raptor want to test something?
04:49:56 sam686 ok
04:56:23 sam686 I still have this game reports http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/gamereports/ and http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/phpmyadm/ (using username=test password=555 )
05:05:48 raptor look at the game 'Celtic Arena'
05:05:52 raptor on the reports
05:06:01 raptor did one team not get recorded?
05:06:25 raptor also on level 'Zone01'
05:06:54 sam686 can check against what the master says http://www.bitfighter.org/stats/gamereports.php
05:07:05 raptor the master is good...
05:07:08 raptor that is weird
05:07:29 sam686 maybe my database is missing some entries, thats my guess...
05:07:36 raptor could be
05:07:47 sam686 as in, missing some columns..
05:07:50 raptor ohhh
05:08:00 raptor yeah, that is probable
05:08:04 raptor ok then
05:08:08 raptor good ngiht!
05:08:12 raptor *night
05:08:24 sam686 test.stats_player_loadout don't exist..
05:08:37 raptor ha
05:09:54 sam686 how up to date is the master/shema is?  i don't see stats_player_loadout in that schema
05:10:05 raptor it's up to date
05:10:21 raptor oh man...  i'm falling asleep
05:10:33 raptor sorry sam686, i have to shut down..
05:10:42 sam686 ok
05:10:44 raptor night
05:10:45 sam686 bye
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05:34:03 sam686 the file master/schema/bitfighter.sql is not up to date, there is no "loadout" database in it.
05:35:29 sam686 bottom of /master/database.cpp looks like up to date, but causes all kinds of syntax errors when trying to put that into mysql (instead of sqlite), which is a simple copy and paste, remove quote and comments, and directly inserting into sql commands...
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13:20:22 raptor buenos
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15:28:07 raptor good day watusimoto1
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18:12:49 raptor I'm trying to think of a good badge for a Level-design contest winner...
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20:04:39 Watusimoto hey there
20:04:52 Watusimoto I've been doing some heavy sql work today
20:05:05 Watusimoto trying to reverse engineer the phtoshop elements image catalog
20:05:17 Watusimoto which I royally #$%^& up, and am now trying to repair
20:05:24 Watusimoto rather than manually edit 1700 entries
20:08:19 Watusimoto badge for level design contest winners...  hmmmm...
20:08:35 Watusimoto what about a pencil?
20:08:53 Watusimoto or a star?
20:09:48 Watusimoto like this:
20:09:49 Watusimoto http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/43400/43432/20_43432_lg.gif
20:15:10 raptor hi
20:15:21 raptor photoshop elements image catalog?
20:15:31 raptor did you edit application resources directly?
20:23:32 Watusimoto yes, but only as part of the recovery process; I screwed them up naturally
20:23:46 Watusimoto naturally = via the app
20:23:55 Watusimoto ended up with 1700 duplicate entries
20:24:00 raptor yikes!
20:24:08 Watusimoto and didn't realize it while there was time to repair the damage
20:24:22 Watusimoto so now I know how pse stores image data!
20:24:33 Watusimoto it's sqlite, and a very clean db design
20:24:42 Watusimoto easy to understand
20:24:47 Watusimoto easy to work with
20:25:13 Watusimoto tried textadept on my linux machine... couldn't get it to run
20:25:20 Watusimoto :-(
20:25:34 Watusimoto still liking sublime; using it on my win machine now
20:25:43 Watusimoto may try to get my work to buy me a copy
20:26:05 Watusimoto textadept didn;t like my version of glibc
20:26:17 raptor ah
20:26:24 raptor i think i packaged textadept once..
20:26:31 raptor but it's changed a lot since
20:26:37 raptor pse?
20:40:12 Watusimoto photoshop elements
20:40:18 raptor oh duh
20:40:20 Watusimoto best photo organizer I've found
20:44:48 Watusimoto icon idea -- what about a wall with a vertex in it?  a little like it might look in the editor?  just a short bit?
20:45:27 raptor you  mean for the badge?
20:51:13 Watusimoto yes
20:51:25 raptor almost have something...
20:51:26 Watusimoto what is the image size for the badge again?
20:51:32 raptor small
20:51:37 Watusimoto I can try it in photoshop
20:51:46 Watusimoto 10x10 perhaps?
20:51:56 raptor let me finish mine first...
20:52:09 Watusimoto I'll look it up. no worries
20:53:54 Watusimoto wow... I have over 10K photos
20:55:56 Watusimoto looks like 10x10; can't do much with that
20:56:02 raptor :)
20:56:08 raptor almost done...
21:09:50 raptor the trick is to keep it scalable...
21:12:32 raptor ok, preliminary
21:12:37 raptor Watusimoto: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_5.png
21:12:51 raptor the farthest right one
21:17:40 Watusimoto I don't love it
21:17:46 raptor yeah me neither
21:17:53 raptor so tiny
21:18:02 Watusimoto what about the blue triangles we already have? 8th over
21:18:06 Watusimoto on that screen shot
21:18:18 raptor the triforce?
21:18:18 Watusimoto kind of looks designy
21:18:21 Watusimoto yes
21:18:57 raptor goes to peruse google's image search
21:22:50 Watusimoto been there, done that
21:36:37 Watusimoto sent an idea via email
21:36:41 raptor ok
21:36:49 Watusimoto it's 12x12, could be better centered, aligned, etc.
21:36:53 raptor radius is 10
21:37:01 Watusimoto not great, but maybe it will remind you of something
21:37:06 Watusimoto this could be redone at 10x10
21:37:14 Watusimoto fairly easily
21:37:25 raptor i did not receive e-mail...
21:38:04 Watusimoto it's in my outbox... db...@n..?
21:38:13 raptor correct
21:38:28 raptor checking the corporate spam server...
21:38:37 Watusimoto give it a sec... there;s at least 144 pixels to send
21:38:42 raptor ha!
21:39:37 Watusimoto ok, asked my wife about dates this mroning
21:39:51 Watusimoto aug 25th -> 3% chance
21:40:11 Watusimoto sorry, aug 24th -> 3% chance
21:40:22 raptor that's mighty precise
21:40:32 Watusimoto consider it 0%.   aug 25th (sat.) ->75% chance
21:40:58 Watusimoto friday the 21st, low% chance
21:41:11 Watusimoto rising slowly but constantly, day-by-day, thereafter
21:43:50 Watusimoto get the image?
21:43:55 raptor negatory
21:46:49 Watusimoto what's the upload link?
21:46:58 raptor http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload3.php
21:47:33 Watusimoto http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/ichiban.png
21:48:12 raptor ok
21:48:16 raptor that gives me an idea...
21:48:19 Watusimoto it would be larger even if the pixel size dropped
21:48:20 Watusimoto good
21:48:29 raptor so tiny...
21:48:55 Watusimoto magnify your screen
21:48:59 Watusimoto it looks a lot better
21:49:33 Watusimoto and it would be crisper as it would render at > 10x10 on a larger screen
21:51:30 raptor now i have to figure out how to get that back to vector graphics...
22:02:50 Watusimoto your idea didn't pan out?
22:03:13 Watusimoto because my idea isn't super great
22:03:21 raptor well...  getting there:  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_7.png
22:07:35 Watusimoto 3rd is better than 1st...
22:08:06 raptor for sure - i didn't even finish the 2nd before moving on, i couldn't quite capture what i was thinking...
22:08:22 raptor i'm still open to heavy criticism
22:09:46 Watusimoto I think we may be being too literal
22:10:16 raptor maybe just a gold star?
22:10:20 raptor :)
22:10:20 Watusimoto how about just a "1" on a blue square of wall?
22:10:27 raptor great!
22:12:44 raptor tada!:  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_8.png
22:22:22 raptor maybe?
22:34:08 raptor or more wonky:  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_9.png
22:44:12 raptor or maybe:  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_11.png
22:45:02 raptor or maybe you fell asleep..  wow it's getting late already
22:51:26 raptor Watusimoto?
22:51:55 Watusimoto ah.. hello?
22:52:29 raptor hi
22:52:30 Watusimoto ok
22:52:42 Watusimoto definitely the best of the lot
22:52:54 raptor which?
22:53:09 Watusimoto deciding
22:53:14 Watusimoto not the trapezoid
22:53:21 raptor good  :)
22:53:23 Watusimoto I like the idea you were going for in the final one
22:53:32 Watusimoto but it seems cluttered
22:53:43 raptor yeah, i couldn't get it to fit...
22:53:47 Watusimoto what if the 1 were bigger, like in the previous one
22:53:55 raptor ok, one moment...
22:54:01 Watusimoto and
22:54:39 Watusimoto we added some different editing artefact;  (loading editor now)
22:55:20 Watusimoto what if we made it a square section of wall like you'd see in the editor?
22:55:37 raptor ?
22:55:43 Watusimoto load editor, create a section of wall two snap points wide
22:55:56 Watusimoto you get a square
22:56:00 raptor eyes
22:56:01 raptor yes
22:56:13 Watusimoto that was what I was going for in my idea
22:56:35 raptor larger text:  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_12.png
22:56:37 Watusimoto are your boxes filled?
22:56:47 raptor i see editor square
22:57:00 raptor and you mean you want the line through it, as well?
22:57:06 raptor and the red dots
22:57:14 Watusimoto maybe?  and the colors
22:57:28 raptor oh yeah
22:57:38 Watusimoto the 1 is not centered (I know you can;t really exactly center it, but it bugs me)
22:57:40 raptor colors, i have them invertedish...
22:57:44 raptor where is that color?
22:57:50 Watusimoto what if you made linewidht a tad thicker on the 1?
22:57:51 raptor bugs me too
22:57:53 Watusimoto might center better
22:58:21 Watusimoto let me find those colors
23:00:15 Watusimoto line:
23:00:16 Watusimoto const Color *WallItem::getEditorRenderColor()
23:00:17 Watusimoto {
23:00:17 Watusimoto    return &Colors::gray50;    // Color of wall spine in editor
23:00:17 Watusimoto }
23:01:05 raptor i meant the blue, because it is different than in game...
23:01:56 raptor argh, i'll just guess
23:02:22 Watusimoto &EDITOR_WALL_FILL_COLOR
23:02:45 raptor ha!
23:02:49 Watusimoto Color EDITOR_WALL_FILL_COLOR(.5, .5, 1);
23:03:02 Watusimoto it's a global if you want to just reference it
23:03:08 Watusimoto defined in main.cpp
23:03:14 Watusimoto should be moved to Colors
23:03:21 Watusimoto (I'll do that)
23:03:54 Watusimoto actually I'll do it later; there's a ton of colors defined along with it that should all move
23:04:19 raptor http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_13.png
23:06:38 Watusimoto the one with the solid fill is better
23:06:43 raptor yep
23:07:10 Watusimoto change the number to yellow, and that might be good enough
23:07:29 Watusimoto better than the phallus you were drawing next to it
23:07:32 raptor http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_14.png
23:07:36 raptor yellow ^^
23:07:40 raptor ha
23:07:46 Watusimoto I mean, this is a family game!
23:08:09 Watusimoto yellow is harder to read than I expected
23:08:12 raptor red?
23:08:34 Watusimoto maybe
23:08:38 Watusimoto I was thinking that too
23:08:43 raptor http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/screenshot_15.png
23:08:45 raptor red
23:09:11 Watusimoto ugh
23:09:16 raptor black:  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_17.png
23:09:26 Watusimoto ugh
23:09:30 Watusimoto though readable
23:10:02 Watusimoto maybe a thicklined black with a thinner yellow on top?
23:10:11 Watusimoto to create a little outline effect
23:10:30 raptor hmmm
23:10:35 Watusimoto the black is functional, but it doesn't look like a prize
23:10:43 Watusimoto maybe the white was best
23:11:13 raptor star!  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_18.png
23:11:38 Watusimoto you lose the wall effect
23:11:43 Watusimoto smaller star?
23:12:10 Watusimoto these are hard
23:12:51 raptor small star:  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/1screenshot_19.png
23:17:16 Watusimoto  what do you think?
23:17:35 raptor these are hard
23:17:47 raptor white 1?
23:18:17 Watusimoto my pick too, followed by small star
23:18:49 Watusimoto good enough for now; we can come back to it later if we feel motivated
23:18:52 raptor ok
23:22:23 raptor ok, i'll commit for now
23:23:44 raptor this is what it looks like:  http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/1screenshot_20.png
23:25:09 BFLogBot - Commit 918e6351d7ba | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Badge for level design contest winner
23:25:21 Little_Apple has joined
23:25:27 Little_Apple helloo
23:25:40 raptor yay, now i have a black square in 017...
23:25:42 raptor hi
23:26:24 Little_Apple erm
23:26:26 Little_Apple what?
23:26:47 raptor join game
23:26:50 FoOtloOse has joined
23:27:15 Little_Apple HELLLO
23:27:17 Little_Apple raptor
23:27:19 raptor hi
23:27:25 Little_Apple footie has something she wants to ask you
23:27:32 FoOtloOse NO I DONT.
23:27:34 raptor hi FoOtloOse
23:27:38 FoOtloOse hi
23:28:06 FoOtloOse LA does.
23:28:11 raptor ok, then don't ask me the thing you do not
23:28:38 Little_Apple U
23:28:40 Little_Apple err
23:28:41 FoOtloOse it was his idea
23:28:46 Little_Apple NO IT WASNT
23:28:50 raptor it's OK, i don't bite
23:28:53 FoOtloOse it was.
23:29:03 Little_Apple IT WAS FOOTIE'S IDEA
23:29:09 FoOtloOse no.
23:29:20 Little_Apple YEA IT WAS
23:29:23 raptor you can also ask me in a private message
23:29:25 FoOtloOse no...
23:29:28 FoOtloOse YEA LA ASK HIM.
23:29:32 Little_Apple fine.
23:29:35 FoOtloOse :D
23:29:38 Little_Apple whats _k's real name?
23:29:47 raptor pierce?
23:29:49 FoOtloOse first name?
23:29:50 Little_Apple YESH
23:29:53 Little_Apple PHEW
23:29:58 FoOtloOse kae said....
23:29:59 Little_Apple NOT ANDREW
23:30:02 Little_Apple KAE WAS WRONG
23:30:10 raptor i think that's his middle name
23:30:14 raptor but not sure...
23:30:14 FoOtloOse HA.
23:30:32 Little_Apple so… THEY BOTH RIGHT
23:30:39 Little_Apple last name?
23:30:42 FoOtloOse youatt
23:30:51 FoOtloOse that at least is right.
23:31:11 FoOtloOse raptor did u c the hangman topic thing?
23:31:21 Little_Apple phew.
23:31:22 Little_Apple no
23:31:29 FoOtloOse off-topics off though....
23:31:29 Little_Apple he has off topic disabled for him :P
23:31:32 FoOtloOse :P
23:31:34 Little_Apple yea
23:31:48 raptor yeah, i can't stomach off-topic...   :)
23:32:05 FoOtloOse mb brought over the hangman game
23:32:10 FoOtloOse ;P
23:32:19 raptor mb?
23:32:22 raptor hangman?
23:32:25 FoOtloOse Gen.Tvvix
23:32:28 FoOtloOse hangman!
23:32:32 raptor that game i used to play with chalk?
23:32:37 FoOtloOse cuz we dont have any forum games
23:32:39 FoOtloOse yea?
23:32:47 FoOtloOse but its like hangman/wheel of fortune
23:33:55 Little_Apple ;P
23:34:02 raptor maybe i'll have to look...
23:34:27 FoOtloOse :D
23:34:39 raptor ha
23:34:45 Little_Apple wooo
23:34:49 FoOtloOse IT WAS TEN PIN NOT TENPIN.
23:34:53 FoOtloOse TEN-PIN
23:35:24 FoOtloOse im just gonna go
23:35:25 FoOtloOse byeeeeeee
23:35:28 FoOtloOse has left
23:35:46 Little_Apple er
23:35:49 Little_Apple laaaters
23:35:52 Little_Apple Quit (Quit: Page closed)
23:51:35 raptor go to bed Watusimoto!
23:54:24 Watusimoto good plan

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00:11:37	raptor	ok heading home
00:11:44	raptor	bye!
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02:10:54	raptor	hi sam686
02:11:05	sam686	hi
02:11:40	raptor	want to do some more playtesting/bugfixing?
02:12:31	raptor	i'm not going to do heat seeker stuff yet because i think watusimoto is playing around with it still..
02:23:37	sam686	The white sparkling really turns out to be a video overlay behind bitfighter window, where the video overlay have a mask color, usually dark pink.. I even saw a white outline around text because of that overlay...
02:23:51	sam686	at least on my case it was that..
02:32:58	raptor	weird
02:33:03	raptor	i had a segmentation fault
02:33:13	raptor	did you do anything?
02:33:31	sam686	i was just changing maps, then you seem to have left the game
02:33:43	raptor	i'll restart in gdb
02:44:08	sam686	one of a robot I have seem to have a memory leak... My memory usage of bitfighter dedicated went from 5 MB to 25 MB
02:44:46	raptor	maybe it's just the various types?
02:44:59	sam686	must be engineer bot memory leak
02:45:26	sam686	must be, getting requested loadout leaks memory?
02:45:34	raptor	lua problem? or maybe just how the bot is used?
02:46:01	sam686	also 100 engineer robot sometimes freezes my dedicated...
02:46:13	sam686	even thouth they are doing nothing...
02:46:39	sam686	memory usage of dedicated grew to 120 MB
02:46:46	raptor	oh wow!!
02:48:25	sam686	memory usage is 155 MB now (even with no robots in game anymore after level switched)
02:48:55	sam686	http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/robots/ possible problem of memory leak on engineer.bot
02:49:35	raptor	what do you think, getCurrLoadout() on every tick?
02:49:54	sam686	probably bot:getCurrLoadout() might be leaking memory?
02:50:16	sam686	the reason of getting current loadout is to check if we entered loadout zone and have changed modules
02:56:35	raptor	segfault
02:56:53	raptor	http://pastie.org/4453370
02:57:30	sam686	Zap::GameType::advanceGameClock (this= !!!NULLL!!!
02:57:56	raptor	did you segfault, too?
02:57:59	sam686	Zap::GameTimer::update (this=0x168 Probably bad pointer..
02:57:59	sam686	no
02:58:29	sam686	maybe your lagging make it happen more likely (and idling too long)
02:59:11	raptor	i don't ever remember seeing that advanceGameClock method before..
02:59:22	raptor	was that added recentlY?
02:59:30	sam686	but i can always try running multiple clients and see if any one crash..
03:00:59	sam686	now 2 clients of my 4 crashes on nearly the same stack trace
03:02:14	sam686	ClientGame.cpp line 518, possible NULL getGameType()
03:03:50	sam686	ok, fixing and pushing that one problem...
03:04:00	raptor	ok
03:05:42	sam686	(986a5ff3d166) Fix possible NULL getGameType()
03:05:47	raptor	ha
03:08:03		BFLogBot - Commit 986a5ff3d166 \| Author: sam8641 \| Log: Fix possible NULL getGameType()
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04:36:09	raptor	back
04:36:15	raptor	not for too long...
04:48:19	sam686	hi
04:48:56	sam686	so you are back for too short of time?
04:49:20	raptor	want to test something?
04:49:56	sam686	ok
04:56:23	sam686	I still have this game reports http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/gamereports/ and http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/phpmyadm/ (using username=test password=555 )
05:05:48	raptor	look at the game 'Celtic Arena'
05:05:52	raptor	on the reports
05:06:01	raptor	did one team not get recorded?
05:06:25	raptor	also on level 'Zone01'
05:06:54	sam686	can check against what the master says http://www.bitfighter.org/stats/gamereports.php
05:07:05	raptor	the master is good...
05:07:08	raptor	that is weird
05:07:29	sam686	maybe my database is missing some entries, thats my guess...
05:07:36	raptor	could be
05:07:47	sam686	as in, missing some columns..
05:07:50	raptor	ohhh
05:08:00	raptor	yeah, that is probable
05:08:04	raptor	ok then
05:08:08	raptor	good ngiht!
05:08:12	raptor	*night
05:08:24	sam686	test.stats_player_loadout don't exist..
05:08:37	raptor	ha
05:09:54	sam686	how up to date is the master/shema is? i don't see stats_player_loadout in that schema
05:10:05	raptor	it's up to date
05:10:21	raptor	oh man... i'm falling asleep
05:10:33	raptor	sorry sam686, i have to shut down..
05:10:42	sam686	ok
05:10:44	raptor	night
05:10:45	sam686	bye
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05:34:03	sam686	the file master/schema/bitfighter.sql is not up to date, there is no "loadout" database in it.
05:35:29	sam686	bottom of /master/database.cpp looks like up to date, but causes all kinds of syntax errors when trying to put that into mysql (instead of sqlite), which is a simple copy and paste, remove quote and comments, and directly inserting into sql commands...
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15:28:07	raptor	good day watusimoto1
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18:12:49	raptor	I'm trying to think of a good badge for a Level-design contest winner...
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20:04:39	Watusimoto	hey there
20:04:52	Watusimoto	I've been doing some heavy sql work today
20:05:05	Watusimoto	trying to reverse engineer the phtoshop elements image catalog
20:05:17	Watusimoto	which I royally #$%^& up, and am now trying to repair
20:05:24	Watusimoto	rather than manually edit 1700 entries
20:08:19	Watusimoto	badge for level design contest winners... hmmmm...
20:08:35	Watusimoto	what about a pencil?
20:08:53	Watusimoto	or a star?
20:09:48	Watusimoto	like this:
20:09:49	Watusimoto	http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/43400/43432/20_43432_lg.gif
20:15:10	raptor	hi
20:15:21	raptor	photoshop elements image catalog?
20:15:31	raptor	did you edit application resources directly?
20:23:32	Watusimoto	yes, but only as part of the recovery process; I screwed them up naturally
20:23:46	Watusimoto	naturally = via the app
20:23:55	Watusimoto	ended up with 1700 duplicate entries
20:24:00	raptor	yikes!
20:24:08	Watusimoto	and didn't realize it while there was time to repair the damage
20:24:22	Watusimoto	so now I know how pse stores image data!
20:24:33	Watusimoto	it's sqlite, and a very clean db design
20:24:42	Watusimoto	easy to understand
20:24:47	Watusimoto	easy to work with
20:25:13	Watusimoto	tried textadept on my linux machine... couldn't get it to run
20:25:20	Watusimoto	:-(
20:25:34	Watusimoto	still liking sublime; using it on my win machine now
20:25:43	Watusimoto	may try to get my work to buy me a copy
20:26:05	Watusimoto	textadept didn;t like my version of glibc
20:26:17	raptor	ah
20:26:24	raptor	i think i packaged textadept once..
20:26:31	raptor	but it's changed a lot since
20:26:37	raptor	pse?
20:40:12	Watusimoto	photoshop elements
20:40:18	raptor	oh duh
20:40:20	Watusimoto	best photo organizer I've found
20:44:48	Watusimoto	icon idea -- what about a wall with a vertex in it? a little like it might look in the editor? just a short bit?
20:45:27	raptor	you mean for the badge?
20:51:13	Watusimoto	yes
20:51:25	raptor	almost have something...
20:51:26	Watusimoto	what is the image size for the badge again?
20:51:32	raptor	small
20:51:37	Watusimoto	I can try it in photoshop
20:51:46	Watusimoto	10x10 perhaps?
20:51:56	raptor	let me finish mine first...
20:52:09	Watusimoto	I'll look it up. no worries
20:53:54	Watusimoto	wow... I have over 10K photos
20:55:56	Watusimoto	looks like 10x10; can't do much with that
20:56:02	raptor	:)
20:56:08	raptor	almost done...
21:09:50	raptor	the trick is to keep it scalable...
21:12:32	raptor	ok, preliminary
21:12:37	raptor	Watusimoto: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_5.png
21:12:51	raptor	the farthest right one
21:17:40	Watusimoto	I don't love it
21:17:46	raptor	yeah me neither
21:17:53	raptor	so tiny
21:18:02	Watusimoto	what about the blue triangles we already have? 8th over
21:18:06	Watusimoto	on that screen shot
21:18:18	raptor	the triforce?
21:18:18	Watusimoto	kind of looks designy
21:18:21	Watusimoto	yes
21:18:57		raptor goes to peruse google's image search
21:22:50	Watusimoto	been there, done that
21:36:37	Watusimoto	sent an idea via email
21:36:41	raptor	ok
21:36:49	Watusimoto	it's 12x12, could be better centered, aligned, etc.
21:36:53	raptor	radius is 10
21:37:01	Watusimoto	not great, but maybe it will remind you of something
21:37:06	Watusimoto	this could be redone at 10x10
21:37:14	Watusimoto	fairly easily
21:37:25	raptor	i did not receive e-mail...
21:38:04	Watusimoto	it's in my outbox... db...@n..?
21:38:13	raptor	correct
21:38:28	raptor	checking the corporate spam server...
21:38:37	Watusimoto	give it a sec... there;s at least 144 pixels to send
21:38:42	raptor	ha!
21:39:37	Watusimoto	ok, asked my wife about dates this mroning
21:39:51	Watusimoto	aug 25th -> 3% chance
21:40:11	Watusimoto	sorry, aug 24th -> 3% chance
21:40:22	raptor	that's mighty precise
21:40:32	Watusimoto	consider it 0%. aug 25th (sat.) ->75% chance
21:40:58	Watusimoto	friday the 21st, low% chance
21:41:11	Watusimoto	rising slowly but constantly, day-by-day, thereafter
21:43:50	Watusimoto	get the image?
21:43:55	raptor	negatory
21:46:49	Watusimoto	what's the upload link?
21:46:58	raptor	http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload3.php
21:47:33	Watusimoto	http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/ichiban.png
21:48:12	raptor	ok
21:48:16	raptor	that gives me an idea...
21:48:19	Watusimoto	it would be larger even if the pixel size dropped
21:48:20	Watusimoto	good
21:48:29	raptor	so tiny...
21:48:55	Watusimoto	magnify your screen
21:48:59	Watusimoto	it looks a lot better
21:49:33	Watusimoto	and it would be crisper as it would render at > 10x10 on a larger screen
21:51:30	raptor	now i have to figure out how to get that back to vector graphics...
22:02:50	Watusimoto	your idea didn't pan out?
22:03:13	Watusimoto	because my idea isn't super great
22:03:21	raptor	well... getting there: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_7.png
22:07:35	Watusimoto	3rd is better than 1st...
22:08:06	raptor	for sure - i didn't even finish the 2nd before moving on, i couldn't quite capture what i was thinking...
22:08:22	raptor	i'm still open to heavy criticism
22:09:46	Watusimoto	I think we may be being too literal
22:10:16	raptor	maybe just a gold star?
22:10:20	raptor	:)
22:10:20	Watusimoto	how about just a "1" on a blue square of wall?
22:10:27	raptor	great!
22:12:44	raptor	tada!: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_8.png
22:22:22	raptor	maybe?
22:34:08	raptor	or more wonky: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_9.png
22:44:12	raptor	or maybe: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_11.png
22:45:02	raptor	or maybe you fell asleep.. wow it's getting late already
22:51:26	raptor	Watusimoto?
22:51:55	Watusimoto	ah.. hello?
22:52:29	raptor	hi
22:52:30	Watusimoto	ok
22:52:42	Watusimoto	definitely the best of the lot
22:52:54	raptor	which?
22:53:09	Watusimoto	deciding
22:53:14	Watusimoto	not the trapezoid
22:53:21	raptor	good :)
22:53:23	Watusimoto	I like the idea you were going for in the final one
22:53:32	Watusimoto	but it seems cluttered
22:53:43	raptor	yeah, i couldn't get it to fit...
22:53:47	Watusimoto	what if the 1 were bigger, like in the previous one
22:53:55	raptor	ok, one moment...
22:54:01	Watusimoto	and
22:54:39	Watusimoto	we added some different editing artefact; (loading editor now)
22:55:20	Watusimoto	what if we made it a square section of wall like you'd see in the editor?
22:55:37	raptor	?
22:55:43	Watusimoto	load editor, create a section of wall two snap points wide
22:55:56	Watusimoto	you get a square
22:56:00	raptor	eyes
22:56:01	raptor	yes
22:56:13	Watusimoto	that was what I was going for in my idea
22:56:35	raptor	larger text: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_12.png
22:56:37	Watusimoto	are your boxes filled?
22:56:47	raptor	i see editor square
22:57:00	raptor	and you mean you want the line through it, as well?
22:57:06	raptor	and the red dots
22:57:14	Watusimoto	maybe? and the colors
22:57:28	raptor	oh yeah
22:57:38	Watusimoto	the 1 is not centered (I know you can;t really exactly center it, but it bugs me)
22:57:40	raptor	colors, i have them invertedish...
22:57:44	raptor	where is that color?
22:57:50	Watusimoto	what if you made linewidht a tad thicker on the 1?
22:57:51	raptor	bugs me too
22:57:53	Watusimoto	might center better
22:58:21	Watusimoto	let me find those colors
23:00:15	Watusimoto	line:
23:00:16	Watusimoto	const Color *WallItem::getEditorRenderColor()
23:00:17	Watusimoto	{
23:00:17	Watusimoto	return &Colors::gray50; // Color of wall spine in editor
23:00:17	Watusimoto	}
23:01:05	raptor	i meant the blue, because it is different than in game...
23:01:56	raptor	argh, i'll just guess
23:02:22	Watusimoto	&EDITOR_WALL_FILL_COLOR
23:02:45	raptor	ha!
23:02:49	Watusimoto	Color EDITOR_WALL_FILL_COLOR(.5, .5, 1);
23:03:02	Watusimoto	it's a global if you want to just reference it
23:03:08	Watusimoto	defined in main.cpp
23:03:14	Watusimoto	should be moved to Colors
23:03:21	Watusimoto	(I'll do that)
23:03:54	Watusimoto	actually I'll do it later; there's a ton of colors defined along with it that should all move
23:04:19	raptor	http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_13.png
23:06:38	Watusimoto	the one with the solid fill is better
23:06:43	raptor	yep
23:07:10	Watusimoto	change the number to yellow, and that might be good enough
23:07:29	Watusimoto	better than the phallus you were drawing next to it
23:07:32	raptor	http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_14.png
23:07:36	raptor	yellow ^^
23:07:40	raptor	ha
23:07:46	Watusimoto	I mean, this is a family game!
23:08:09	Watusimoto	yellow is harder to read than I expected
23:08:12	raptor	red?
23:08:34	Watusimoto	maybe
23:08:38	Watusimoto	I was thinking that too
23:08:43	raptor	http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/screenshot_15.png
23:08:45	raptor	red
23:09:11	Watusimoto	ugh
23:09:16	raptor	black: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_17.png
23:09:26	Watusimoto	ugh
23:09:30	Watusimoto	though readable
23:10:02	Watusimoto	maybe a thicklined black with a thinner yellow on top?
23:10:11	Watusimoto	to create a little outline effect
23:10:30	raptor	hmmm
23:10:35	Watusimoto	the black is functional, but it doesn't look like a prize
23:10:43	Watusimoto	maybe the white was best
23:11:13	raptor	star! http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2screenshot_18.png
23:11:38	Watusimoto	you lose the wall effect
23:11:43	Watusimoto	smaller star?
23:12:10	Watusimoto	these are hard
23:12:51	raptor	small star: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/1screenshot_19.png
23:17:16	Watusimoto	what do you think?
23:17:35	raptor	these are hard
23:17:47	raptor	white 1?
23:18:17	Watusimoto	my pick too, followed by small star
23:18:49	Watusimoto	good enough for now; we can come back to it later if we feel motivated
23:18:52	raptor	ok
23:22:23	raptor	ok, i'll commit for now
23:23:44	raptor	this is what it looks like: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/1screenshot_20.png
23:25:09		BFLogBot - Commit 918e6351d7ba \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Badge for level design contest winner
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23:25:27	Little_Apple	helloo
23:25:40	raptor	yay, now i have a black square in 017...
23:25:42	raptor	hi
23:26:24	Little_Apple	erm
23:26:26	Little_Apple	what?
23:26:47	raptor	join game
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23:27:15	Little_Apple	HELLLO
23:27:17	Little_Apple	raptor
23:27:19	raptor	hi
23:27:25	Little_Apple	footie has something she wants to ask you
23:27:32	FoOtloOse	NO I DONT.
23:27:34	raptor	hi FoOtloOse
23:27:38	FoOtloOse	hi
23:28:06	FoOtloOse	LA does.
23:28:11	raptor	ok, then don't ask me the thing you do not
23:28:38	Little_Apple	U
23:28:40	Little_Apple	err
23:28:41	FoOtloOse	it was his idea
23:28:46	Little_Apple	NO IT WASNT
23:28:50	raptor	it's OK, i don't bite
23:28:53	FoOtloOse	it was.
23:29:03	Little_Apple	IT WAS FOOTIE'S IDEA
23:29:09	FoOtloOse	no.
23:29:20	Little_Apple	YEA IT WAS
23:29:23	raptor	you can also ask me in a private message
23:29:25	FoOtloOse	no...
23:29:28	FoOtloOse	YEA LA ASK HIM.
23:29:32	Little_Apple	fine.
23:29:35	FoOtloOse	:D
23:29:38	Little_Apple	whats _k's real name?
23:29:47	raptor	pierce?
23:29:49	FoOtloOse	first name?
23:29:50	Little_Apple	YESH
23:29:53	Little_Apple	PHEW
23:29:58	FoOtloOse	kae said....
23:29:59	Little_Apple	NOT ANDREW
23:30:02	Little_Apple	KAE WAS WRONG
23:30:10	raptor	i think that's his middle name
23:30:14	raptor	but not sure...
23:30:14	FoOtloOse	HA.
23:30:32	Little_Apple	so… THEY BOTH RIGHT
23:30:39	Little_Apple	last name?
23:30:42	FoOtloOse	youatt
23:30:51	FoOtloOse	that at least is right.
23:31:11	FoOtloOse	raptor did u c the hangman topic thing?
23:31:21	Little_Apple	phew.
23:31:22	Little_Apple	no
23:31:29	FoOtloOse	off-topics off though....
23:31:29	Little_Apple	he has off topic disabled for him :P
23:31:32	FoOtloOse	:P
23:31:34	Little_Apple	yea
23:31:48	raptor	yeah, i can't stomach off-topic... :)
23:32:05	FoOtloOse	mb brought over the hangman game
23:32:10	FoOtloOse	;P
23:32:19	raptor	mb?
23:32:22	raptor	hangman?
23:32:25	FoOtloOse	Gen.Tvvix
23:32:28	FoOtloOse	hangman!
23:32:32	raptor	that game i used to play with chalk?
23:32:37	FoOtloOse	cuz we dont have any forum games
23:32:39	FoOtloOse	yea?
23:32:47	FoOtloOse	but its like hangman/wheel of fortune
23:33:55	Little_Apple	;P
23:34:02	raptor	maybe i'll have to look...
23:34:27	FoOtloOse	:D
23:34:39	raptor	ha
23:34:45	Little_Apple	wooo
23:34:49	FoOtloOse	IT WAS TEN PIN NOT TENPIN.
23:34:53	FoOtloOse	TEN-PIN
23:35:24	FoOtloOse	im just gonna go
23:35:25	FoOtloOse	byeeeeeee
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23:35:46	Little_Apple	er
23:35:49	Little_Apple	laaaters
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23:51:35	raptor	go to bed Watusimoto!
23:54:24	Watusimoto	good plan