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| 00:07:59 | raptor | ok, i'm off to the physics lab |
| 00:08:06 | raptor | later! |
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| 00:29:37 | Nothing_Much | What's everybody up to? |
| 00:35:13 | amgine1234567890 | being afk\ |
| 00:38:40 | Nothing_Much | Alright |
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| 02:17:08 | Nothing_Much | Hello |
| 02:17:09 | amgine1234567890 | omg i went so far out i maxed the coords system |
| 02:17:21 | amgine1234567890 | thye stoped increasing |
| 02:18:50 | amgine1234567890 | raptor i made a zoom level like wheeeeeee that made me go so far out hte /showcoords sopted counting |
| 02:19:16 | raptor | oh wow amgine1234567890 |
| 02:19:27 | raptor | i don't think i've seen anyone go to the edge of the coord system... |
| 02:19:31 | raptor | hi |
| 02:19:57 | amgine1234567890 | come to my server and oyu can see |
| 02:20:06 | amgine1234567890 | and im still going XD |
| 02:20:32 | amgine1234567890 | ill go down in BF history for this XD |
| 02:20:57 | raptor | oh great, my 1 yearold is eating legos |
| 02:21:20 | amgine1234567890 | you better stop him or he may bleed out of his stomach or choke |
| 02:21:31 | raptor | he chokes all the time |
| 02:21:35 | Nothing_Much | daww that's adorably dangerous |
| 02:21:39 | raptor | perils of being a 1 year old |
| 02:21:53 | amgine1234567890 | lol i dont dare say what i used to put in my mouth |
| 02:22:27 | raptor | he used to just eat beads... i guess he's matured his palette |
| 02:22:57 | amgine1234567890 | have everyone come to my server and see me out of the coord system (including you if you have a moment) |
| 02:23:31 | amgine1234567890 | ironicly im still moving |
| 02:25:15 | amgine1234567890 | note to raptor increase the coords limit by 1,000,000 more times |
| 02:27:12 | amgine1234567890 | lol it will be like 12 mroe horus before i stop moving XD |
| 02:28:14 | amgine1234567890 | raptor there is no server message that displays if you take a screenie with ctrl q? |
| 02:28:25 | amgine1234567890 | mgiht be a good idea to add one |
| 02:28:46 | raptor | it might be a good idea to print a client-side message yes |
| 02:28:49 | raptor | good idea |
| 02:30:23 | amgine1234567890 | how would i go about posting the screenie of me maxing the coords of BF on hte forums and go down in BF legends |
| 02:30:44 | raptor | ha |
| 02:30:49 | raptor | just upload the picture to a post |
| 02:30:57 | raptor | there is an 'attachment' section |
| 02:31:29 | amgine1234567890 | wow i went so far past the coords i hit the level load limit distance |
| 02:32:03 | amgine1234567890 | its werid i cant go any farther up or down just left or right |
| 02:33:21 | amgine1234567890 | and shooting up or down makes them go sideways did i find a bug? |
| 02:33:35 | raptor | no |
| 02:33:41 | raptor | you've hit the float threshold |
| 02:33:52 | amgine1234567890 | float threshold? |
| 02:33:55 | raptor | you're in weird space |
| 02:34:05 | amgine1234567890 | ooh |
| 02:34:33 | raptor | it when floating point numbers get so high that their accuracy in decimal points decreases |
| 02:34:50 | raptor | so weird things happen when doing math on numbers that large |
| 02:34:50 | amgine1234567890 | now thats a BF recrod |
| 02:34:56 | raptor | we've been there before |
| 02:35:09 | raptor | sam686 created a map to play on that was out in weird space once |
| 02:35:51 | amgine1234567890 | but i bet you never expected a player to get there |
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| 04:26:22 | Nothing_Much | Hello sir |
| 05:12:48 | raptor | hello |
| 05:15:14 | Nothing_Much | How goes it? |
| 05:23:05 | raptor | good thanks |
| 05:25:13 | Nothing_Much | nice |
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| 11:48:18 | | BFLogBot Commit: 76e1c012adea | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix crash in stack trace script (fix has been submitted upstream to script author) |
| 11:48:19 | | BFLogBot Commit: 97ea07e362fa | Author: watusimoto | Message: Merge |
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| 15:13:48 | raptor | Watusimoto: you fixed Lua? |
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| 17:23:15 | | BFLogBot Commit: 4d600eb7d8be | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix not being able to kill team turrets |
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| 18:31:09 | kaen | I spent like two weeks trying to learn some russian to hit on this girl at my work. now google occasionally gives me a handful of russian search results. |
| 18:32:38 | bobdaduck | rofl |
| 18:35:41 | bobdaduck | Well did it work? |
| 18:36:10 | kaen | she wasn't as impressed as I'd hope she'd be... |
| 18:36:58 | kaen | hoped* |
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| 19:25:38 | Watusimoto | previet!@ |
| 19:26:30 | Watusimoto | ti kraceviya! |
| 19:40:23 | kaen | I figured you might know some russian, wat |
| 19:45:47 | Watusimoto | my wife knows much more than I do |
| 20:07:49 | bobdaduck | Where is raptor! |
| 20:07:53 | bobdaduck | I must speech with him! |
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| 20:16:16 | Lamp | Hi |
| 20:16:24 | Nothing_Much | Hello |
| 20:17:11 | Lamp | I'm on an iPhone |
| 20:17:31 | Nothing_Much | Oh cool |
| 20:18:13 | Lamp | And it is hard and annoying to work with the chat on a small screen... |
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| 20:20:41 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 20:20:50 | bobdaduck | At some point |
| 20:21:00 | bobdaduck | I should figure out a way to connect from my phone |
| 20:21:02 | bobdaduck | too lazy though |
| 20:21:10 | Lamp | It's so fun and cool to read the IRC logs |
| 20:22:23 | Lamp | Hi |
| 20:22:49 | bobdaduck | Hi |
| 20:23:06 | Lamp | Hmm, bob what kind of phone do you have? |
| 20:23:47 | Lamp | To connect I just use a web browser and connect like I do on a desktop. |
| 20:24:05 | bobdaduck | Windows 6.5 |
| 20:24:16 | bobdaduck | Haven't tried just connecting from a web browser, actually |
| 20:24:40 | Lamp | Rly? What have you tried? |
| 20:24:47 | bobdaduck | Nothing. |
| 20:24:54 | bobdaduck | I said lazyness is holding me back xD |
| 20:24:55 | Lamp | XD |
| 20:25:23 | Lamp | Windows 6.5 doesn't exist, does it? |
| 20:25:30 | Lamp | It's not a phone |
| 20:25:43 | Lamp | It's an os |
| 20:26:11 | bobdaduck | right. |
| 20:26:22 | Lamp | U lied? |
| 20:26:36 | bobdaduck | I have an HTC phone, running windows 6.5 |
| 20:26:58 | Lamp | Oh |
| 20:27:04 | Lamp | Windows mobile os? |
| 20:27:51 | Lamp | Well to use that just go to your "Internet Explorer" and explore for http://www.bitfighter.org/node/46 |
| 20:29:08 | Lamp | Bye |
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| 21:27:30 | bobdaduck_mobile | did it work? |
| 21:27:36 | Nothing_Much | Did what work? |
| 21:27:59 | bobdaduck_mobile | irc from phone |
| 21:28:03 | Nothing_Much | bobdaduck_mobile, what? |
| 21:28:14 | Nothing_Much | You're on your phone and I can see your messages |
| 21:28:33 | bobdaduck_mobile | Yes, I can see that by you responding :P |
| 21:28:43 | bobdaduck_mobile | But yes, that's all I was wondering. |
| 21:29:10 | Nothing_Much | So that's good, are you out somewhere? |
| 21:29:27 | bobdaduck_mobile | No, just trying irc from phone. |
| 21:29:34 | bobdaduck_mobile | Been meaning to see if it works. |
| 21:29:38 | bobdaduck_mobile | Hint: it does. |
| 21:29:48 | Nothing_Much | Alright, well it does use Java and not Flash :D |
| 21:30:05 | bobdaduck_mobile | Yep |
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| 22:02:12 | Nothing_Much | Hi raptor |
| 22:02:19 | raptor | hi |
| 22:04:13 | Nothing_Much | how's the status on Desura? |
| 22:04:29 | raptor | probably off-work... |
| 22:04:37 | Nothing_Much | off-work? |
| 22:04:55 | raptor | it's the weekend, so they haven't done much, is my guess |
| 22:05:08 | Nothing_Much | oh yeah, that's true |
| 22:07:30 | Watusimoto | these stupid bots keep crashing |
| 22:07:38 | Watusimoto | hi raptor |
| 22:07:39 | raptor | hi |
| 22:07:43 | Watusimoto | I see what you mean about the bots |
| 22:07:48 | raptor | yeah... |
| 22:07:54 | raptor | also levelgens are doing it too |
| 22:08:02 | Watusimoto | I'm not surprised |
| 22:08:10 | Watusimoto | It is the caching I added |
| 22:08:16 | raptor | like all of a sudden gameobjects don't have methods like :setLoc |
| 22:08:18 | Watusimoto | when I disable it, the problem goes away |
| 22:08:33 | Watusimoto | but I'm still mystified as to why |
| 22:23:31 | raptor | working on the spybug problems... |
| 22:24:40 | raptor | Watusimoto: could these Lua issues be related to #6? (the bug where adding levelgen items randomly fail) |
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| 22:36:15 | Watusimoto | probably not -- this is only a few days old |
| 22:37:16 | Watusimoto | for some reason, the cached userdata is not as good as a fresh one |
| 22:37:29 | Watusimoto | but the ud only contains a pointer and some type info |
| 22:37:39 | raptor | of lower quality huh? |
| 22:37:43 | raptor | cheap imports.. |
| 22:37:45 | Watusimoto | stale |
| 22:38:11 | Watusimoto | unless... is it possible that when you are firing away, you use the same block of memory twice for a bullet |
| 22:38:29 | Watusimoto | i.e. two bullets could have the same address? |
| 22:38:33 | raptor | hmm... |
| 22:38:37 | Watusimoto | (though not at the same time) |
| 22:38:40 | raptor | i thnk 'new' is called on each one |
| 22:38:46 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 22:38:58 | raptor | i would say no to any that are currently shown on screen |
| 22:39:01 | Watusimoto | but why wouldn;t the system reallocate a block |
| 22:39:09 | raptor | but maybe after one is destroyed, then sure |
| 22:39:16 | Watusimoto | because that would explain my problem |
| 22:39:29 | Watusimoto | uds are cached by address, yet they go stale somehow |
| 22:39:44 | Watusimoto | maybe I could try caching by address and id or something |
| 22:39:50 | Watusimoto | just as an experiment |
| 22:39:56 | raptor | counds like a good experiment |
| 22:39:59 | raptor | *sounds |
| 22:40:40 | raptor | oh, side note: i tried the desura build on my windows xp vm - it works from the client just fine! |
| 22:43:44 | Nothing_Much | How did you test it out? |
| 22:43:52 | Nothing_Much | and that's great news! |
| 22:46:10 | raptor | special rights of access to the project :) |
| 22:47:52 | Nothing_Much | awesome |
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| 23:13:59 | Watusimoto | well, my test was too difficult to do |
| 23:14:07 | Watusimoto | but I think my diagnosis was correct |
| 23:14:12 | Watusimoto | and I may have fixed the problem |
| 23:14:33 | Watusimoto | basically, I bypass the cache check if I think I have a new object |
| 23:14:38 | Watusimoto | and voila... it works! |
| 23:14:43 | Watusimoto | at least so far |
| 23:16:06 | raptor | how do you determine if it is a new object? |
| 23:16:45 | Watusimoto | wait a minute, and look at my checkin... it will be clear |
| 23:16:51 | raptor | okey doke |
| 23:19:58 | raptor | ok, i'm gonig to solve the spy issues for real this time... |
| 23:20:03 | raptor | but first |
| 23:20:14 | raptor | i want to make sure we have the behavior to what it should be |
| 23:20:46 | raptor | if you shoot *any* spybug, it should blow up right? and give kickback? |
| 23:20:56 | raptor | your own, team mate's, enemy's |
| 23:20:58 | raptor | yes? |
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| 23:21:07 | Watusimoto | yes |
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| 23:21:14 | | BFLogBot Commit: ff40333cbd40 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Move some functionality to a function to make flow clearer |
| 23:21:15 | | BFLogBot Commit: 0782c58ec493 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Rename function (macro, really) |
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| 23:21:32 | Watusimoto | that was a yes, lost amongst the checkins |
| 23:21:38 | raptor | ah see it |
| 23:21:39 | raptor | ok good |
| 23:21:43 | raptor | that makes it easy.. |
| 23:21:47 | Watusimoto | only the last checkin will be interesting |
| 23:22:54 | raptor | these wide screen comments... |
| 23:23:18 | Watusimoto | I think luaW_push is the most commented thing we've got now |
| 23:23:33 | raptor | ah ok, i get how it works |
| 23:23:41 | Watusimoto | yeah, kind of sucks if your screen widht is less than mine :-) |
| 23:23:49 | Watusimoto | simple! |
| 23:24:01 | raptor | testing... |
| 23:27:06 | Watusimoto | I;m just going to warn you: my son has been dogging me to get irc installed on the machine he likes to use... I think he wants to hang out in this chatroom when he is on the computer. |
| 23:27:16 | Watusimoto | he'll probably try to lobby you |
| 23:27:16 | raptor | ha |
| 23:27:37 | Watusimoto | he makes me these books for christmas/birthday with bitfighter ideas |
| 23:27:42 | raptor | haha |
| 23:27:56 | Watusimoto | he has talked about making you one because I am not responsive enough |
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| 23:31:03 | raptor | hey bobby |
| 23:31:10 | raptor | you wanted me earlier |
| 23:31:12 | raptor | ? |
| 23:33:28 | raptor | well... tell him i'm a father of two as well and i'm learning to be unresponsive :) |
| 23:34:54 | Watusimoto | think of it as training |
| 23:35:15 | Watusimoto | so... how did your test go? did the fix work? |
| 23:35:22 | raptor | which? what? |
| 23:35:37 | Watusimoto | >>>>> testing... |
| 23:35:53 | raptor | oh... uh, got side tracked and tested a different lua bug (that #6) |
| 23:36:02 | raptor | ok, back to userdata test.. |
| 23:36:06 | Watusimoto | well, that's something! |
| 23:36:21 | Watusimoto | don't worry, it will be completely tested in a matter of course |
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| 23:37:43 | raptor | it works! |
| 23:37:52 | raptor | the same ship object is in multiple events |
| 23:37:55 | raptor | great! |
| 23:38:59 | Watusimoto | so... is this a bug? |
| 23:39:01 | Watusimoto | Test bots correctly join a team that has fewer players |
| 23:39:13 | Watusimoto | sounds like an affirmation that things are aok |
| 23:39:32 | raptor | yeah, i'm not sure - i've seen several instances of players switching teams, then a bot is added and joins the team with more players |
| 23:39:46 | Watusimoto | I just enterd a bug: "Everything running swimmingly" |
| 23:39:50 | raptor | haha |
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| 23:42:58 | raptor | that #6 Lua bug does give a stacktrace now.. |
| 23:43:04 | raptor | argh, i should be doing spybugs.. |
| 23:43:34 | Watusimoto | those stack traces can be nice |
| 23:45:14 | Watusimoto | the bots still crash |
| 23:46:41 | raptor | attempt to call missing or unknown method 'setText' (a nil value) |
| 23:46:47 | raptor | ^^ that's so weird |
| 23:51:44 | raptor | ok, well, i joined an 018 server and started laying mines... then everyone else started crashing |
| 23:51:56 | raptor | (i joined with the latest build)... |
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| 23:53:33 | fordcars | euh, raptor? Are you feeling ok? |
| 23:53:40 | raptor | hi |
| 23:53:45 | raptor | i think so... |
| 23:53:48 | raptor | how come? |
| 23:54:02 | fordcars | why did you write "I'm signing in the rain", then.... |
| 23:54:14 | fordcars | :P |
| 23:55:27 | raptor | don't remember... |
| 23:55:33 | raptor | response to something, i think.. |
| 23:55:34 | bobdaduck | MWAHAHA |
| 23:55:38 | fordcars | ok lol |
| 23:55:39 | bobdaduck | FIGURED OUT A NEW WAY TO MAKE INVISIBLE WALLS |
| 23:55:47 | fordcars | really? |
| 23:55:55 | bobdaduck | BWAHAHA |
| 23:56:18 | fordcars | any level you made with invisible walls? |
| 23:56:30 | bobdaduck | No |
| 23:56:36 | bobdaduck | You can't make a level with invisible walls |
| 23:56:39 | bobdaduck | it would suck too bad |
| 23:56:45 | bobdaduck | And my standards are higher than that. |
| 23:56:47 | fordcars | dungeon? |
| 23:56:55 | bobdaduck | Dungeons are stupid. |
| 23:57:04 | fordcars | lol |