#bitfighter IRC Log

Index Search ←Prev date Next date→

IRC Log for 2013-06-12

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

00:17:12watusimoto has joined


00:17:12ChanServ sets mode +o watusimoto


00:22:58watusimoto Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)


01:14:17Nothing_Much has joined


01:20:40Nothing_Much Quit (Changing host)


01:20:40Nothing_Much has joined


01:29:37Nothing_Much Quit (Quit: l8r)


01:31:43koda has joined


02:28:19Nothing_Much has joined


02:35:46Nothing_Much Quit (Changing host)


02:35:46Nothing_Much has joined


06:48:50Nothing_Much Quit (Quit: l8r)


06:56:42ozbitfighter has joined


06:56:50ozbitfighterHi


06:57:31ozbitfighterAny chance you could digitally sign releases? I wonder how may decide not to install because it comes from an unknown source? You can get free digital certificates from this Polish source - http://www.certum.eu/certum/cert,offer_en_open_source_cs.xml


07:09:07kaenhm, interesting


07:09:30kaenthere's a very good chance, I didn't know there were free certs available


07:09:46kaenand hello again, ozbitfighter :)


07:10:08ozbitfighterYes it's the same one from Brisbane. I really should register just lazy.


08:35:50raptor has joined


08:35:50ChanServ sets mode +o raptor


08:36:05raptorbuenos


08:38:51ozbitfighterHullo


08:44:33raptor Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)


08:50:49raptor has joined


08:50:49ChanServ sets mode +o raptor


08:59:18bobdaduck has joined


09:12:52bobdaduck Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)


09:13:03bobdaduck has joined


09:24:39bobdaduckI'm setting up a rough quest system for DnD but it won't really be used until 019 when I can use neutral ships


09:25:01raptorhi


09:25:06raptoruh....


09:25:18raptorneutral ships?  how are we allowing that in 019?


09:36:05kaenI think you can have neutral ships in 018a


09:36:13raptorhi kaen


09:36:13kaenthey just crash a lot iirc


09:36:15kaenhello


09:36:49raptoryes, but I believe he's talking about Lua API calls to them


09:37:00kaenoh that's right


09:39:00kaenlooks like you could already use them now, bobdaduck: http://bitfighter.org/luadocs/class_ship.html


09:39:10raptornoooo...  don't enable him!


09:39:17bobdaduckno


09:39:30bobdaduckneutral ships crash the game when they enter a levelgen'd zone


09:39:33kaenhmm good point raptor


09:39:33bobdaduck...zoneswords.


09:39:46bobdaduckAlso I can't spawn neutral ships via levelgen (or robots)


09:39:54kaenbetter unfix that crash, then


09:40:06bobdaduckits not 019 yet


09:42:59bobdaduckalso good morning


09:47:58kodahi all


09:48:01bobdaduckI'ma start doing stuff with levelgen carnival now


09:48:02bobdaduckhi


09:48:24koda pokes raptor 


09:54:06bobdaduck pokes koda


09:54:19kodabobdaduck, \o/


09:54:44bobdaduck/o/


09:55:22kodao/\o


09:57:16bobdaducklol


09:57:37bobdaduck\o\ |o| /o/


09:57:44bobdaducklooks kinda like a tie fighter


09:59:41raptorhi koda


09:59:44raptorwhat's up?


10:00:58bobdaduckLevelgen carnival has 60 ID'd zones in it...


10:01:38kodaraptor, i have some news regarding that physfs, want to come to #hedgewars?


10:02:48raptorsure


10:23:04raptor Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)


10:49:34watusimoto has joined


10:49:34ChanServ sets mode +o watusimoto


10:54:22raptor has joined


10:54:22ChanServ sets mode +o raptor


10:55:36ozbitfighterAny chance you could digitally sign releases? I wonder how may decide not to install because it comes from an unknown source? You can get free digital certificates from this Polish source - http://www.certum.eu/certum/cert,offer_en_open_source_cs.xml


10:55:39ozbitfighterposted from above.


10:55:54raptorhi


10:55:58raptorso, uh...


10:56:27raptordoesn't getting easy, free digital certificates negate some of the 'security' behind using digital certificates


10:56:30raptor?


10:57:55ozbitfighterHmmm well it prevents freightening warnings from Microsoft.


10:58:05raptoryeah..


10:58:07raptorwell


10:58:12raptorsecurity theatre yay!


10:58:52ozbitfighteralthough when they ask for id they're no mention of encryption of scanned id.


10:59:21ozbitfighterI'm not sure how much they authenticate it.


10:59:32ozbitfighterbeing free like you said.


10:59:48raptorthat means there's another purpose behind it, besides security


11:00:12bobdaduckThey're trying to steal your passwordz


11:00:14raptoralthough if implemented *properly* it adds securty


11:01:09raptorimproperly implemented security has a name:  compliance


11:01:58raptorand it's used to shuffle money around, usually to the ruling entity


11:03:45kaenassuming the private key stays private it seems secure enough


11:04:07kaenmaybe there's a better choice than that company, but they also issue commercial keys to some pretty big names


11:04:42ozbitfightera quick google search reveals none.


11:06:58ozbitfighterhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/10202556/code-signing-certificate-for-open-source-projects stackoverflow has some info.


11:07:02kaenI imagine MS charges a fee to accept an organization as a CA, so that's not surprising


11:07:31raptoryes - there must be a CA chain..  and *all* CAs must be reputable or security breaks down


11:11:01Nothing_Much has joined


11:12:30Nothing_Much Quit (Changing host)


11:12:30Nothing_Much has joined


11:15:38kaengoogling around, these free certum certs seem to work


11:19:55kaenand it says they're "trusted" root CA in windows, flash, and all the big browsers


11:24:23watusimoto Quit (Quit: Leaving.)


11:26:12ozbitfighterwell it is trusted in win7sp1 - i found it whilst installing mumble


11:26:24ozbitfighteran opensource teamspeak/ventrilo.


11:33:22koda Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)


12:04:24koda has joined


12:07:34koda_ has joined


12:10:48koda Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)


12:10:48koda_ is now known as koda


12:24:26raptorBaconator is online!  must meet...


12:24:55raptorhmm...  locked 017 server :(


12:25:13raptorwait no, it's gone..


12:27:19bobdaducklol


12:27:22bobdaducklocked 017 servers


12:28:12koda Quit (Quit: K Thx Bai)


12:30:33bobdaduckOkay raptor


12:30:41bobdaduckYou open?


12:30:46raptorhi


12:30:48raptoropen?


12:31:00bobdaduckYeah.


12:31:10raptormy mouth is currently closed


12:31:22bobdaduckOkay so next on my list of things for levelgen carnival is a "spy laser dodge room"


12:31:33raptorhaha


12:31:42bobdaduckObviously I could do this with forcefields, but it would be much more interactive to do this with goalzones.


12:32:33raptoryou could set aim angles of turrets...


12:32:50bobdaduckTHAT'S COMPLETELY UNTESTED


12:32:55raptorit sure is


12:32:57bobdaduckand will probably crash it


12:32:59bobdaduckxD


12:33:01bobdaduckbut hm.


12:36:59bobdaduckToo bad there's no z axis


12:37:27bobdaduckOkay raptor so next on my list is to convert all of bitfighter into 3d and make it a paper planes game.


12:37:27bobdaduckCould you get the code ready for that?


12:37:30bobdaduckJUST KIDDING.


12:38:37raptorwhat


12:38:53raptorI think we've given you too much power already..


12:39:09bobdaduckxD


12:40:11bobdaduckOh and it needs to be cross-compatable with bitfighter 018


12:41:09bobdaduckThings to add to Levelgen Carnival: Spy laser dodge room, demolition derby, wave pool, fireworks show, haunted mansion,


12:41:15bobdaduckhm.


12:41:47bobdaduckThat list is way too small xD


12:45:05bobdaduckMy nutso factor has calmed down since "finishing" DnD


12:45:28raptornot from my perspective..


12:45:31raptor:)


12:47:45bobdaduck Quit (Remote host closed the connection)


12:50:30raptorgreat I made him upset


12:50:36raptorI should shut my mouth..


12:50:49raptorerrr..  bind the fingers


12:52:58kaenif only it were that easy to discourage him...


13:10:47raptoraww man


13:15:34koda has joined


13:15:36raptor Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)


13:15:44raptor has joined


13:15:45ChanServ sets mode +o raptor


13:15:59raptorthere's an ASM part of Lua's tostring in luajit..


13:16:05raptorboo


13:18:42kodaOmg asm


13:18:45kodaScary


13:25:51thread_ has joined


13:25:59thread_long time no see


13:26:29LordDVG has joined


13:28:31bobdaduck has joined


13:32:14raptor Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)


13:32:15kodaIt has been a long thread......


13:35:12bobdaduckOkay so now I need a memory efficient way to cover the entire map in bursts


13:35:32bobdaduckany ideas?


13:39:19thread_don't?


13:39:48raptor has joined


13:39:48ChanServ sets mode +o raptor


13:40:41raptorscary, scary stuff..


13:43:54thread_Don't, say you didn't, but act suspiciously like you did. Then claim you made the decision in the name of science and hot dogs.


13:44:08raptorkoda: do you know how to set architecture-specific linker flags for xcode?


13:44:18raptori tried OTHER_LINKER_FLAGS_ppc


13:44:19raptoretc..


13:44:39raptornot working..


13:46:56raptorbobdaduck, get the extents of the map somehow


13:47:21raptorthen place a burst every 200 grid coords along x and y


13:47:55kodaraptor: There is no such thing


13:48:06raptoryeah, that's what I thought


13:49:17kodaYou can force setting cmake_osx_arch and then happy if checks


13:49:25kodaI kinda do that for pascal stuff


13:49:42kodaWhat linker prob are you (bit)fighting with?


13:50:23bobdaduckWell yeah covering the map in bursts is not the hard part


13:50:36bobdaduckmemory efficiency is the hard part


13:50:43raptorI'm tinkering with moving to LuaJIT, and it requires special linker flags on 32bit OSX


13:51:29kodaIf cmake_sizeof_voidp less 8 and apple


13:51:38kodaNext problem?


13:51:49raptoryes well..  we haven't *quite* moved OSX to cmake yet...


13:52:06raptorand i need to test if LuaJIT will work OK on that platform..


13:52:18kodaWhat's left beside luajit?


13:52:53raptoractually nothing - LuaJIT is a new addition I'm considering


13:53:07raptorthe only thing really left for OSX is the packaging


13:53:17raptor(with CMake)


13:53:35raptorcmake can already build the binary, but I'm in R&D mode for something else now


14:03:07koda Try the bundle_osx mode


14:03:26raptorha!  it was OTHER_LDFLAGS_ppc


14:10:17kodaIs that a standard variable?


14:11:30raptori have no idea - but it seems to work on Xcode 3..


14:20:19koda Quit (Quit: K Thx Bai)


14:24:03ozbitfighter Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)


14:29:15thread_ Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)


14:39:00raptor Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)


15:58:41LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection)


16:03:46bobdaduck Quit (Remote host closed the connection)


16:23:49watusimoto has joined


16:23:49ChanServ sets mode +o watusimoto


16:49:12bobdaduck has joined


17:08:35watusimoto Quit (Quit: Leaving.)


17:19:15raptor has joined


17:19:15ChanServ sets mode +o raptor


18:05:02fordcars has joined


18:17:30ozbitfighter has joined


18:40:39ozbitfighter Quit (Quit: Page closed)


18:41:41ozbitfighter has joined


18:41:52ozbitfighter Quit (Client Quit)


19:05:17bobdaduck Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)


19:07:53fordcars Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)


19:13:20Little_Apple has joined


19:13:31Little_Applehello


19:13:35raptorhola


19:13:50Little_Applehow go the things?


19:13:58raptordoing ok


19:14:27Little_Applenewnewbork there yet?


19:15:03raptoryes


19:15:09raptorsunday


19:15:14raptorher name is Katherine


19:15:16raptor:)


19:15:24Little_Apple:D


19:15:32Little_Applehappy birthday!


19:16:07raptorif she could talk, she'd say 'thanks!'


19:16:30Little_Apple:P


19:18:58raptorhuh - i can get LuaJIT to compile on OSX ppc and x86_64, but not i386


19:46:18bobdaduck has joined


19:53:24Little_Applehello bob


20:04:13Little_Apple Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)


20:25:09bobdaduck Quit (Remote host closed the connection)


21:02:16Nothing_Much Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)


21:18:13Nothing_Much has joined


21:18:39Nothing_Much Quit (Changing host)


21:18:39Nothing_Much has joined


21:23:42Nothing_Much Quit (Quit: l8r)


21:27:10Flynnn has joined


21:53:33Nothing_Much has joined


21:53:33Nothing_Much Quit (Changing host)


21:53:33Nothing_Much has joined


22:04:57raptorok kaen, i'm dropping LuaJIT for now


22:05:13raptori posted why here:  https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=134


22:07:27raptori am saddened at my current failure..


23:02:10raptorhahaha..  I just came across this trying to solve a git problem:  http://jordi.inversethought.com/blog/enough-git/


23:09:04kaenThe Scribbler of The Rueful Countenance is totally a Don Quixote reference


23:09:13kaenI like this guy.


23:13:29raptorI'm trying to make a case at work that hg will be better than git for in-house stuff (I am biased)


23:13:41raptorand especially for the learning curve


23:16:54raptorbut it's a losing battle because we have lots of fanbois who love github


23:17:04raptori mean, i think github is great


23:18:18raptorbut we're not using it for internal code..


23:18:33kaeninteresting.


23:18:51kaensince I've been working on bitfighter I've come to really like hg


23:19:02raptorthis guy is hilarious


23:19:10raptori've moved on to his topic on 'gitology'


23:23:07raptor"Git refers to implementation details as “plumbing” and the user interface as “porcelain”, in order to make it clear that git’s designers think of git with the same reverence I think of the instrument that handles the organic waste that my body produces"


23:24:46Flynnnwhat


23:24:52FlynnnI don't even


23:24:53Flynnnwhat


23:25:12Flynnnbodily fluids?


23:25:15Flynnnplumbers?


23:25:17Flynnnporcelain?


23:25:25Flynnnwtf xD is the guy you are talking to drunk?


23:26:13raptorFlynnn: Git refers to implementation details as “plumbing” and the user interface as “porcelain”, in order to make it clear that git’s designers think of git with the same reverence I think of the instrument that handles the organic waste that my body produces


23:26:15raptoroops


23:26:20raptorhere:  http://jordi.inversethought.com/blog/on-gitology/


23:26:23FlynnnI think my brain finally just translated that


23:26:28Flynnnhe thinks of toilets xD


23:27:18kaenthat's a great line


23:27:35Flynnnlol


23:27:43FlynnnYeah, I am clearly drunk xD


23:32:43raptorI should probably work on LuaW or something worthwhile..


23:32:51raptorwhat was I working on before delving into LuaJIT?


23:35:55Flynnn Quit (Quit: Leaving)


23:59:32raptorwell good night!

Index Search ←Prev date Next date→

These logs were automatically created by BFLogBot on irc.freenode.net.