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| 14:37:14 | kaen | now shush. |
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| 14:51:34 | raptor | howdy folks! |
| 14:52:07 | kaen | hi! |
| 14:53:22 | raptor | so I, uh, am back |
| 14:54:04 | raptor | been stalking the logs - not too much going on, other than *lots* of commits by Watusimoto |
| 14:54:08 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 14:54:14 | raptor | looks like dwarf fortress... |
| 14:54:16 | kaen | indeed... |
| 14:54:19 | kaen | on both counts |
| 14:54:19 | Watusimoto | that's pretty much been it |
| 14:54:24 | bobdaduck | welcome back where have you been did you throw some water on logbot? |
| 14:54:33 | kaen | I threw the water |
| 14:54:41 | bobdaduck | oh okay |
| 14:54:46 | raptor | looks like logbot got stuck in a rut |
| 14:54:46 | bobdaduck | Yeah, definitely dwarf fortress |
| 14:54:53 | kaen | definitely dwarf fortress... |
| 14:54:59 | raptor | I lost the use of my hands |
| 14:55:04 | kaen | ! |
| 14:55:14 | kaen | temporarily? |
| 14:55:15 | bobdaduck | A goblin siege just wiped out my entire military except for a legless wrestler dwarf and a marksdwarf who won't pick up ammo for his crossbow |
| 14:55:29 | raptor | yes, I am typing, if slowly, now |
| 14:55:39 | kaen | ah ok |
| 14:55:41 | raptor | chicken-pecking some... |
| 14:55:50 | Watusimoto | what happened, if I may ask? |
| 14:55:52 | bobdaduck | what happened? |
| 14:56:02 | raptor | I pinched a nerve(s) in my back... really badly |
| 14:56:09 | kaen | wow |
| 14:56:11 | Watusimoto | ouch |
| 14:56:31 | raptor | the one that took it hardest was the 'Ulner' nerve: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/TE-Nervous_system_diagram.svg |
| 14:56:50 | raptor | and my hands were essentially on fire for all of last week and the weekend |
| 14:56:50 | Watusimoto | how does one do that? |
| 14:57:07 | raptor | good question |
| 14:59:03 | Watusimoto | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulnar_nerve_entrapment suggests it is an arm issue |
| 14:59:13 | raptor | seems like it was a combination of being a somewhat anxious person (by nature and nurture), being too stressed out, and moving in just the right (wrong) way |
| 14:59:30 | kaen | I pinched a couple nerves when I wrestled in high school. I remember the worst part for me was that there's pretty much nothing to do but wait and relax. |
| 14:59:39 | Watusimoto | btw, I've been wearing a brace on my moue hand for at least a decade, and it helps me a lot |
| 14:59:43 | raptor | hey that seems to be about it |
| 14:59:57 | Watusimoto | I get pain after about 5 mins of not using it |
| 15:00:12 | raptor | except my issue occured in both arms, at the same time, and after convulsing on the ground |
| 15:00:44 | Watusimoto | that sounds crazy bad |
| 15:00:46 | raptor | ah... Brachial plexus |
| 15:00:49 | raptor | that's the spot |
| 15:00:49 | kaen | oh that's sounds horrible |
| 15:01:03 | kaen | I've never heard of anything like that before. |
| 15:01:16 | raptor | I woke up two weeks ago with the muscle so tight in that area I wanted to scream |
| 15:01:25 | Watusimoto | I know people who started using voice software and say it's pretty good |
| 15:01:27 | raptor | 1 week later, I pinch the nerves below it |
| 15:01:37 | Watusimoto | even programmers |
| 15:01:46 | raptor | hmmm... I didn't even think about htat |
| 15:02:29 | kaen | they need to hurry up with that matrix-style neural human-computer interface |
| 15:02:34 | raptor | haha |
| 15:02:56 | Watusimoto | but probably with something like that, posture matters a lot |
| 15:03:12 | raptor | so I went to two doctors, one an MD who gave me a prescription for muscle relaxants (flexoril) |
| 15:03:27 | raptor | they didn't actually work, and only the first dose made me slightly sleepy |
| 15:03:45 | raptor | then I went to the company on-site chiropractor/witch doctor |
| 15:04:05 | raptor | and he told me to cook myself in the shower/tub 3-4 times a day for no more than 20 min. |
| 15:04:13 | raptor | and that actually worked |
| 15:04:14 | Watusimoto | this is one of the few things that chiropracty seems vaguely possible to assist with |
| 15:04:44 | raptor | he said i should be half better by the end of the weekend - I think it was more like 2/3 better |
| 15:04:56 | Watusimoto | is it likely to get worse again? |
| 15:05:04 | raptor | yesterday I could type with three fingers... and today... I can type with 8-9! |
| 15:05:14 | Watusimoto | on each hand! |
| 15:05:18 | raptor | haha, oops |
| 15:05:29 | raptor | i meant 4-5 on each hand, today |
| 15:05:33 | Watusimoto | :-) |
| 15:06:34 | raptor | so... because of my personality/physiology, it may happen again if I try to take on too many things again |
| 15:06:39 | raptor | as it stands I had to drop a class |
| 15:07:19 | raptor | the wife was relieved and noticed an instant change in my demeanor... besides the tears of pain |
| 15:07:43 | raptor | so yeah... how are you guys? |
| 15:08:15 | bobdaduck | Skippy the legless wrestler is hopping around on crutches, tackling trolls. |
| 15:08:30 | raptor | sounds legit |
| 15:08:36 | bobdaduck | She admires mules "for their stubborness" |
| 15:09:13 | kaen | not sure if you've noticed |
| 15:09:21 | kaen | but there's totally a crutchwalker skill |
| 15:09:47 | raptor | is this more dwarf fortress stuff? |
| 15:09:52 | raptor | seems like it.. |
| 15:09:54 | kaen | yes... |
| 15:09:57 | bobdaduck | yes... |
| 15:10:00 | kaen | I'm off the stuff! |
| 15:10:02 | kaen | I swear it! |
| 15:10:24 | kaen | no more shall the poison cross my monitor! |
| 15:11:28 | bobdaduck | ...right after he finishes this giant upside down pyramid. |
| 15:11:32 | raptor | I've been playing a lot of Stars! with my two good fingers... |
| 15:11:37 | Watusimoto | dwarf fortress or LSD... it's really hard to tell |
| 15:11:42 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 15:11:47 | Watusimoto | stars will stress you! |
| 15:12:02 | raptor | well... my brother and I played against 5 AI |
| 15:12:08 | Watusimoto | they cheat |
| 15:12:10 | raptor | we won |
| 15:12:24 | raptor | the packet physics one was pretty hard though |
| 15:12:36 | raptor | seems like I spent half the game recolonizing the same 5 planets |
| 15:12:39 | Watusimoto | was he shooting packets at your planets |
| 15:13:04 | Watusimoto | how long did your turns last during the late phases? |
| 15:13:12 | raptor | he was alternate reality, I was interstellar traveller |
| 15:13:20 | raptor | I could have wiped him out early... |
| 15:13:25 | raptor | be we were 'friends' |
| 15:13:30 | Watusimoto | ah, cute |
| 15:14:07 | raptor | he basically used my gates the whole time and focused on offense while I focused on making the gates |
| 15:15:00 | raptor | longest turns were about 30-60 min. |
| 15:15:10 | raptor | I ran my own host over an sshfs share |
| 15:15:27 | raptor | and created an RSS feed when the turn updated |
| 15:15:40 | raptor | early turns were like 1-5 min. |
| 15:16:04 | Watusimoto | 60 mins... not bad |
| 15:16:05 | raptor | actually, I had a few turns that lasted closer to 2 hours |
| 15:16:13 | Watusimoto | that's more like what I remember |
| 15:16:16 | raptor | when the PP AI kept wiping out my planets |
| 15:16:33 | raptor | because interstellar traveler's mass drivers only work half as good as normal |
| 15:17:48 | raptor | yeah, so our next plan is to get my sister involved... |
| 15:17:52 | raptor | :) |
| 15:19:23 | raptor | because we'll expect backstabbing from her, then we can take out on her all our years of frustration that she was the favored one... :) |
| 15:20:22 | raptor | of she already knows this... |
| 15:20:26 | raptor | *of course |
| 15:20:42 | Watusimoto | try her with diplomacy |
| 15:20:52 | raptor | no way, we'd get trounced! |
| 15:21:06 | raptor | think 'scorched earth' |
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| 15:21:28 | raptor | at least with with Stars! we can be friends until she thinks she can take us on... |
| 15:21:30 | Watusimoto | hey kaen -- can you check something for me? if you have a teleporter, and you change the geometry via lua script (using set_geom method), that can change the location of the teleporter. Do you see how that info gets to the clients? |
| 15:21:55 | Watusimoto | setGeom calls doSetGeom |
| 15:22:39 | Watusimoto | doGeom changes the location (setVert(points[0], 0);), then updates the extent |
| 15:22:43 | Watusimoto | then... that's it |
| 15:23:43 | Watusimoto | maybe I need to create a script to test whether it actually _does_ get to the client |
| 15:24:12 | Watusimoto | actually, bobdaduck, that would be a good task for you, since you are now better at scripting than I am |
| 15:24:33 | bobdaduck | Okay, what are you asking? |
| 15:24:35 | Watusimoto | can you write a script that moves a teleporter once the game has started? |
| 15:24:44 | bobdaduck | Uh, I have several |
| 15:24:46 | Watusimoto | maybe just scoots it across the screen or whatever |
| 15:24:50 | Watusimoto | and they work? |
| 15:24:55 | bobdaduck | also one that has a speedzone move |
| 15:24:58 | Watusimoto | i.e. you can reposition them once the game has started |
| 15:25:04 | Watusimoto | but a teleporter |
| 15:25:05 | bobdaduck | though I admittedly didn't do too much work on that one |
| 15:25:20 | bobdaduck | I have one where I change the dests... Gimme a sec then |
| 15:25:26 | Watusimoto | because I'm not seeing how it would work |
| 15:25:35 | Watusimoto | I just need to verify that they can be moved |
| 15:25:41 | Watusimoto | after the game has started |
| 15:28:14 | kaen | well I can crash by adding a teleporter without geom ... |
| 15:29:34 | bobdaduck | It did not move, no. |
| 15:29:38 | bobdaduck | Trying alternate methods... |
| 15:30:22 | kaen | I can get it to move once |
| 15:30:48 | kaen | nope nevermind |
| 15:30:50 | kaen | not even once |
| 15:31:11 | bobdaduck | So that's a negative then |
| 15:32:05 | bobdaduck | I tried just hard-substituting the moving speedzone script with teleporters and that didn't work |
| 15:32:19 | kaen | OH! |
| 15:32:24 | kaen | it's just not moving client-side |
| 15:32:32 | Watusimoto | yes, as I thought |
| 15:32:44 | kaen | I can't seem to trigger it after moving it though |
| 15:32:51 | kaen | even if I move where it should be server-side |
| 15:32:56 | Watusimoto | odd |
| 15:32:57 | kaen | but it renders properly @_@ |
| 15:33:03 | Watusimoto | renders in new location? |
| 15:33:16 | bobdaduck | wut |
| 15:33:28 | Watusimoto | polish list question for kaen or raptor -- one of you (presumably) add that the help font was hard to read |
| 15:33:52 | raptor | that was me... when it was set to Tenby |
| 15:34:21 | kaen | okay, exact clarification: |
| 15:34:26 | kaen | moves properly server side |
| 15:34:37 | kaen | CAN be activated in its actually location |
| 15:34:40 | Watusimoto | ok, take a look now (editor instructions have been totally redone), and remove from the list if you are happy with the font as is now in the repo |
| 15:34:43 | raptor | I was trying my hardest to read a line and couldn't get past the first couple words without have to rescan a few times |
| 15:34:46 | raptor | ok |
| 15:34:56 | Watusimoto | I agree... tenby is best in small doses |
| 15:34:56 | kaen | renders in the old position for an already-connected client |
| 15:35:15 | kaen | when a client joins afterwards, he gets the real position of the teleporter and everything looks/works fine |
| 15:35:19 | kaen | until it's moved again :P |
| 15:35:45 | kaen | so, sounds like the geom mask needs to be set |
| 15:36:03 | Watusimoto | I think so |
| 15:36:10 | kaen | which should probably really be done way down in BfObect::lua_setGeom |
| 15:36:14 | | BFLogBot Commit: dd30ec7d00fc | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix up outlines for turrets |
| 15:36:15 | | BFLogBot Commit: 3893f5ed2b13 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix up outlines for all known objects... use new method (with horrid name) to preserve editor functionality |
| 15:36:23 | kaen | because I've fixed this bug for another object type before, though I don't remember which |
| 15:36:25 | kaen | oh, textitems |
| 15:40:11 | bobdaduck | though its kinda fun to watch the destinations move around on the C map... |
| 15:41:47 | Watusimoto | I don't think geomMask is even used by teleporters at the moment |
| 15:42:25 | Watusimoto | oh boy, this is going to be a mess |
| 15:42:36 | Watusimoto | we don't have multipoint teleporters on the client |
| 15:42:50 | Watusimoto | wait |
| 15:43:04 | Watusimoto | right, we send everything as a 2-point teleporter |
| 15:43:14 | raptor | editor instructions look great! |
| 15:43:28 | Watusimoto | so if you change an origin or dest, we need to figure out how to get the correct geom to the client |
| 15:43:46 | kaen | yuck |
| 15:43:57 | Watusimoto | we might need to delete 3 or 4 teleporters after we update one on the server |
| 15:44:00 | Watusimoto | yuck indeed |
| 15:44:26 | Watusimoto | we probably need to assign some sort of id to the teleporters on the client we can use to trigger their deletion and recreation |
| 15:44:27 | raptor | that font is easier to read than Tenby5, but I still wouldn't classify it a soft or easy font |
| 15:44:31 | Watusimoto | kind of icky |
| 15:44:39 | Watusimoto | raptor: thanks! |
| 15:44:42 | raptor | but maybe it doesn't need to be for a 2D arcade game |
| 15:44:50 | kaen | I don't understand how we'd have to delete several teles after a single server-side update |
| 15:45:13 | Watusimoto | kaen: ok, so we have teleporter A going to dests B, C, D |
| 15:45:16 | raptor | overlapping ones merge entry points |
| 15:45:25 | Watusimoto | sorry teleporter 1 going to A, B, C |
| 15:45:33 | Watusimoto | #s are origins, letters are dests |
| 15:45:37 | kaen | ok |
| 15:45:47 | Watusimoto | so we move C to D on the server |
| 15:46:04 | Watusimoto | our send function will send 1-A, 1-B, and 1-D |
| 15:46:25 | Watusimoto | in order to not end up with dupes or other weirdness, we need to delete 1-A, 1-B, and 1-C on client |
| 15:46:44 | kaen | ok I see |
| 15:46:57 | Watusimoto | obviously if we move 1 to 2 on server, we need to kill 1-X and send 2-X |
| 15:47:02 | Watusimoto | but that is more obvious |
| 15:47:43 | Watusimoto | so server needs a way to identify which client teleporters belong to the server teleporter we are modifying |
| 15:47:53 | kaen | ok, that makes sense |
| 15:48:04 | kaen | and sounds more straightforward than I originally thought |
| 15:48:11 | Watusimoto | oh, good! |
| 15:48:49 | Watusimoto | we probably jsut need to send an id when we send geom, then add a delete command that sends an id |
| 15:49:07 | Watusimoto | raptor: is the new instr. font good enough? |
| 15:49:17 | raptor | I thinkn it might be |
| 15:49:20 | Watusimoto | er... readable enough? |
| 15:49:25 | raptor | what do you think, kaen? |
| 15:49:37 | Watusimoto | man, when I go back to the 018 client, it just looks uuuuugly |
| 15:49:41 | kaen | you mean a delete rpc, because you don't want to do that in unpackupdate? |
| 15:49:42 | raptor | heh |
| 15:49:47 | raptor | you should go back to 015 |
| 15:49:59 | Watusimoto | I can't unsee what I've seen |
| 15:50:14 | Watusimoto | so I try to limit my exposure to unpleasant sights |
| 15:50:19 | Watusimoto | so I won't be doing that |
| 15:50:34 | kaen | it's not just the visuals... the performance is so drastically better for me on 019 than 018a |
| 15:50:39 | Watusimoto | kaen: we could do that in a pack/unpack |
| 15:51:03 | Watusimoto | maybe when we send geom for a teleporter, just delete any old ones with that id |
| 15:51:11 | kaen | that's what I was thinking |
| 15:51:13 | Watusimoto | that would probably be simpler |
| 15:51:20 | Watusimoto | yeah, good plan |
| 15:51:26 | kaen | there's kind of a gotcha there: you can set IDs on the fly |
| 15:51:39 | Watusimoto | you can? |
| 15:51:40 | kaen | so you might have to do the same dance when the tele's id is set, too |
| 15:51:47 | kaen | yes |
| 15:51:59 | Watusimoto | ok, maybe we need a immutable machine id for this |
| 15:52:02 | raptor | be right back... have to do WorldOfGoo therapy for my sick 4 year old |
| 15:52:03 | bobdaduck | 019 is like twice as fast as 019 |
| 15:52:10 | Watusimoto | goo! |
| 15:52:10 | bobdaduck | I can even feel it on a new computer... |
| 15:52:12 | bobdaduck | GOO |
| 15:52:46 | kaen | Watusimoto, memory address sounds like a good candidate |
| 15:52:47 | | thread_ has joined |
| 15:53:01 | kaen | or |
| 15:53:02 | kaen | heck |
| 15:53:05 | kaen | TNL has a nonce class |
| 15:53:08 | Watusimoto | that's a lot of bits |
| 15:53:31 | Watusimoto | just an incrementing 10 or 12 bit static serial would be easy |
| 15:53:53 | Watusimoto | even 16 bit if you wanted to let bobdaduck do a 65K teleporter level |
| 15:54:18 | bobdaduck | Already possible in DnD |
| 15:54:32 | bobdaduck | ...Dunno what you just said, but its possible in DnD. |
| 15:54:56 | Watusimoto | we also have mNextSerialNumber |
| 15:55:41 | Watusimoto | thoguh that's currently a 32 bit number |
| 15:56:19 | kaen | hmm... TNL::Nonce is 8 bit and it doesn't auto-increment on construction |
| 15:56:36 | Watusimoto | 8 bit? |
| 15:56:47 | Watusimoto | that seems rather small |
| 15:56:57 | kaen | again demonstrating how zap is much better than the library it was meant to show off |
| 15:57:16 | kaen | oh, it's actually U8 data[8] |
| 15:57:39 | Watusimoto | U8 data[NonceSize]; // 8 bytes, 2^64 possibilities |
| 15:57:50 | Watusimoto | right |
| 15:57:52 | Watusimoto | ;-) |
| 15:58:33 | Watusimoto | we could just create a new serial number for teleporters only |
| 15:58:37 | kaen | I was thinking it was a utility nonce, I had to get all the way there to see it was a crypto nonce |
| 15:58:47 | Watusimoto | a mParentChildId |
| 15:59:51 | kaen | what if we just used the normal object id, and sent id updates to the client? |
| 16:00:04 | kaen | (just for teleporters) |
| 16:00:14 | kaen | that way you don't have to make a new field |
| 16:01:09 | kaen | hmm but then you get into that weird unguaranteed order issue with packupdate... |
| 16:01:25 | kaen | what if the id packet and geom packet arrive out of order |
| 16:01:41 | Watusimoto | my _only_ objection to that is that we would send an extra 16 bits every time we sent teleporter geom... which is probably not a big deal give that we do it rarely. But then you end up with potentially non-unique object serial numbers on the client |
| 16:02:03 | Watusimoto | also probably not a big deal, but perhaps leading to problems in some future universe where we assume they are in fact unique |
| 16:02:57 | kaen | messy messy |
| 16:03:16 | Watusimoto | in PackUpdate, just before this line: |
| 16:03:17 | Watusimoto | stream->writeInt(dests, 16); |
| 16:03:20 | Watusimoto | we do this: |
| 16:03:35 | Watusimoto | stream->writeInt(parentChildId, 16); |
| 16:03:43 | Watusimoto | then no need to worry about packet orders and whatnot |
| 16:04:27 | Watusimoto | actually, I can just do it right now, as I have the code open |
| 16:04:53 | kaen | I think you're right, needs to be an immutable id just for this purpose |
| 16:05:49 | kaen | because if it's mutable and I do setId then setGeom in two different packets, and you get the geom packet before the id packet, you'll try to erase pairs with an id that doesn't exist yet |
| 16:06:06 | kaen | or plus I think IDs aren't forcibly unique |
| 16:08:55 | Watusimoto | oops |
| 16:08:58 | Watusimoto | I goofed |
| 16:09:16 | Watusimoto | way off base |
| 16:09:41 | Watusimoto | we may actually manage teleporters as a single entity on client |
| 16:10:16 | kaen | for(S32 i = 0; i < dests; i++) |
| 16:10:16 | kaen | getDest(i).write(stream); |
| 16:10:21 | kaen | I think you're right |
| 16:11:37 | Watusimoto | maybe all we need to do is trigger this with the geom flag |
| 16:11:50 | Watusimoto | it appears that it will overwrite the old dests |
| 16:12:04 | Watusimoto | I was remembering the first implementatino of multi-dest teleporters |
| 16:12:10 | Watusimoto | waaay back in 012 or so |
| 16:12:28 | Watusimoto | I just reverted all my changes related to this |
| 16:14:43 | Watusimoto | ok, I'm done for the night |
| 16:14:49 | | BFLogBot Commit: f451fa16b6c6 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Rename method, comments |
| 16:14:50 | Watusimoto | blech |
| 16:15:25 | Watusimoto | kaen: if I don't see a checkin related to this from you today, I'll do it tomorrow when I can thing straight |
| 16:16:08 | Watusimoto | raptor: glad you're back(ish), take it easy, don't stress, and take care of yourself |
| 16:16:36 | Watusimoto | I'll be working to whittle down the polish list and/or the google code list for 019 so we can push forward with a release as soon as we can |
| 16:17:03 | Watusimoto | my latest changes fix all the (knwon) problems with the inline help. Well, most of them at least. |
| 16:17:39 | Watusimoto | we'll need to get some testers to give us feedback on the frequency/duration of messages, and whether the content is useful |
| 16:18:04 | Watusimoto | maybe I'll see if my son can arrange some of his friends to play it and see what happens |
| 16:19:20 | Watusimoto | good night, gentlemen |
| 16:19:29 | bobdaduck | night gentlewat |
| 16:20:19 | | Watusimoto Quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) |
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| 16:27:05 | fordcars | Yaaaaaaay |
| 16:27:27 | fordcars | Managed to printf some text in command line with an in-game command xD |
| 16:27:34 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 16:28:02 | fordcars | 019 bugs in window mode |
| 16:28:29 | bobdaduck | I miss buildbot... |
| 16:31:28 | | bobdaduck Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 16:31:59 | fordcars | Alright, I'll be back in an hour |
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| 17:58:37 | raptor | fordcars: what do you mean by 'bugs' |
| 17:58:41 | raptor | (on OSX?) |
| 18:02:52 | fordcars | on Windows, you can't go into Windowed mode |
| 18:02:59 | fordcars | in-game anyway |
| 18:03:16 | raptor | ok, i'll make a new build |
| 18:19:16 | kaen | uh, raptor |
| 18:19:22 | kaen | any idea what happend to ctrl+r ? |
| 18:19:45 | kaen | for testing levelgens in the editor |
| 18:19:48 | kaen | it does rotation now.. |
| 18:20:17 | kaen | oh, ctrl+k |
| 18:20:18 | kaen | nice |
| 18:20:40 | kaen | disregard :P |
| 18:27:18 | Nothing_Much | :( |
| 18:27:22 | Nothing_Much | Hi guys |
| 18:27:25 | kaen | hi! |
| 18:27:37 | Nothing_Much | what's up? |
| 18:27:42 | kaen | why so down, charlie brown? |
| 18:28:03 | Nothing_Much | I can't finish my trailer because my computer's.. not available right now |
| 18:28:11 | Nothing_Much | I'm stuck on this old 2006 iMac |
| 18:28:37 | fordcars | :P |
| 18:28:40 | Nothing_Much | which is alright, I can still play a couple games, but it's like, I can't do any video editing :( |
| 18:28:46 | fordcars | *79$ |
| 18:29:48 | kaen | :/ |
| 18:30:14 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 18:41:46 | | bobdaduck has joined |
| 18:42:20 | bobdaduck | WQ3GIPAVRJA; |
| 18:42:55 | bobdaduck | Everybody give me the roughest song you can think of |
| 18:46:12 | fordcars | Happy Birthday |
| 18:46:25 | Nothing_Much | HB? |
| 18:46:43 | fordcars | lol, the song |
| 18:46:54 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 18:47:00 | Nothing_Much | I thought it was his birthday |
| 18:47:26 | fordcars | hah I thought you did :P |
| 18:47:55 | bobdaduck | and I shall get back to your answers in like 10 minutes. |
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| 18:58:21 | raptor | fordcars: the windowed bug is an SDL2 bug that has been fixed in the SDL2 source, it will still be in the build I'm building now, though... maybe I should update to stable SDL2 |
| 19:00:29 | fordcars | ok thanks! |
| 19:01:43 | raptor | do you guys want a build now? Or can you wait for me to update to stabler SDL2? |
| 19:01:56 | bobdaduck | No build just release |
| 19:02:09 | raptor | ummm... |
| 19:02:33 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:02:39 | raptor | I've been out of the loop for a bit now and I honestly don't know the full state of things. Although they do look good |
| 19:02:57 | raptor | Also your response wasn't actually an answer to my either/or question... |
| 19:03:13 | kaen | bobdaduck, sounds like you're looking for opeth |
| 19:03:26 | kaen | or maybe anything by greely estates from no rain no rainbow |
| 19:03:45 | kaen | or maybe the melvins if you're looking for stuff with actual musical notes in it |
| 19:03:58 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:03:59 | bobdaduck | songs? |
| 19:04:44 | raptor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0CLYpYKHNY |
| 19:05:00 | raptor | I warned you... |
| 19:05:07 | raptor | or.. maybe i didn't |
| 19:05:14 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:05:32 | bobdaduck | Come at me bro I listen to industrial |
| 19:05:50 | bobdaduck | AUGH |
| 19:05:51 | bobdaduck | WHAT IS THIS |
| 19:05:53 | bobdaduck | WHAT HAVE YOU DONE |
| 19:06:03 | raptor | yes, well... I'm not sure I'd define that as listening.... it's more like being clobbered |
| 19:06:11 | bobdaduck | xDD |
| 19:06:22 | bobdaduck | That burns my soul. |
| 19:06:26 | bobdaduck | Something angrier, please. |
| 19:06:27 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:06:32 | raptor | :-D |
| 19:06:37 | kaen | wow |
| 19:06:39 | kaen | gg raptor |
| 19:06:40 | kaen | gg |
| 19:07:43 | raptor | hey JohnEight32 is back |
| 19:07:53 | bobdaduck | love that guy |
| 19:16:53 | fordcars | hah |
| 19:17:04 | bobdaduck | lol greely estates |
| 19:17:06 | fordcars | He's been here for a few days |
| 19:17:32 | fordcars | I just made an infinite while loop wich crashed Bitfighter |
| 19:17:56 | kaen | I accidentally find ways to crash bitfighter all the time \o/ |
| 19:18:08 | raptor | I made a forum post! woo |
| 19:18:29 | fordcars | Does anybody know how to use drawstring()? |
| 19:18:43 | kaen | fordcars, you mean in c++ ?! |
| 19:18:45 | raptor | language/environment/location |
| 19:19:16 | fordcars | yeah |
| 19:19:20 | fordcars | In bitfighter |
| 19:19:36 | fordcars | I need some kind of loop? |
| 19:19:43 | kaen | drawString(x, y, fontsize, "your text here") |
| 19:19:55 | kaen | well, you need to call it each frame |
| 19:20:01 | fordcars | Oh okok |
| 19:20:04 | kaen | in a render() method somewhere |
| 19:20:37 | kaen | is generally where you should stick those things |
| 19:20:45 | kaen | ideally the render() method of the class you're wrenching on |
| 19:21:05 | raptor | ok, now to SDL2... |
| 19:21:30 | raptor | kaen: think I should update to released 2.0.0 stable on windows? Or go newer with bug fixes? |
| 19:22:07 | kaen | hmmm tough call |
| 19:22:21 | raptor | maybe i'll just do 2.0.0 and see how it fares |
| 19:22:22 | kaen | I guess since we're about to release you should use stable |
| 19:22:26 | raptor | should be OK |
| 19:22:40 | kaen | I think you're right |
| 19:22:43 | Nothing_Much | 0 |
| 19:24:14 | kaen | I mean "about" as in "we've been trying to release for 'about' two months" ... |
| 19:24:20 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:26:52 | kaen | wutchu think about this level, bobdaduck? http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/79 |
| 19:27:24 | raptor | it's like one of those little get-the-BB-in-the-hole games |
| 19:27:33 | kaen | hehe yeah you're right! |
| 19:27:49 | bobdaduck | if you're going for that |
| 19:28:10 | bobdaduck | make two seperate versions of the map with little or no or specific controlled interaction |
| 19:28:12 | kaen | well, it's just an experiment with playable randomly-generated levels |
| 19:28:14 | bobdaduck | and turn it into a soccer |
| 19:29:27 | bobdaduck | ah |
| 19:29:48 | raptor | hmmm... I'm going to have to update the SDL2 headers.. |
| 19:31:25 | bobdaduck | It looks pretty good |
| 19:31:57 | kaen | I've got some ideas to put into it |
| 19:32:06 | kaen | I think I'm going to spawn mines in the outer ring |
| 19:32:12 | kaen | and put flag spawns there |
| 19:32:12 | bobdaduck | but I don't see it being better than a secifically made nexus level |
| 19:32:37 | kaen | that's sort of the crux of the levelgen problem... |
| 19:32:44 | kaen | but then again I made the script in five minutes, so... |
| 19:32:47 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:33:35 | Nothing_Much | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 19:33:45 | kaen | indeed. |
| 19:34:50 | Nothing_Much | + |
| 19:35:09 | kaen | can you elaborate on that point a bit? |
| 19:35:25 | kaen | you sound pretty |
| 19:35:26 | kaen | positve |
| 19:35:58 | bobdaduck | rofl |
| 19:38:08 | kaen | what interests me about these generated levels |
| 19:38:15 | kaen | is that they can adjust to playing conditions |
| 19:38:38 | kaen | like, I can change how big the level is based on the number of players when it starts |
| 19:38:38 | bobdaduck | Yeah, that part is cool |
| 19:39:48 | bobdaduck | _K did a contest for that once |
| 19:39:55 | kaen | for what? |
| 19:40:04 | kaen | generated levels in general? |
| 19:40:11 | bobdaduck | no for like |
| 19:40:14 | bobdaduck | level series |
| 19:40:14 | raptor | level size based on player count |
| 19:40:17 | bobdaduck | based on |
| 19:40:18 | bobdaduck | yeah. |
| 19:40:24 | kaen | ah cool |
| 19:42:18 | bobdaduck | FORDCARS |
| 19:42:21 | bobdaduck | HOWS THAT BOT COMING? |
| 19:42:24 | fordcars | hehe |
| 19:42:26 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:43:21 | | Little_Apple has joined |
| 19:44:05 | Little_Apple | raptor: help! |
| 19:44:12 | raptor | hi Little_Apple |
| 19:44:15 | fordcars | kaen, I have extern bool varName in file.h, and bool varName = false; in file.cpp, but accessing it in file2.cpp doesn't work, even if i did #include file.h |
| 19:44:23 | raptor | choose B |
| 19:44:29 | bobdaduck | hi Little_Apple |
| 19:44:30 | Little_Apple | i tried to get the server thing working... |
| 19:44:40 | bobdaduck | Pull every lever in the fortress |
| 19:44:41 | raptor | please define 'server thingy' |
| 19:44:51 | raptor | (I've been gone for a week) |
| 19:44:56 | raptor | what is Bitfighter? |
| 19:45:00 | fordcars | says "Undeclared Identifier" |
| 19:45:11 | Little_Apple | http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008&view= |
| 19:45:12 | fordcars | :PP |
| 19:45:26 | raptor | oh - did you read my latest comment? |
| 19:45:28 | fordcars | That worked on 10.5.3 |
| 19:45:31 | Little_Apple | yep |
| 19:45:41 | fordcars | *10.5.8 |
| 19:45:44 | raptor | ah ok, now I follow you |
| 19:46:00 | kaen | fordcars, static bool varName |
| 19:46:08 | fordcars | in header? |
| 19:46:16 | fordcars | oh in file.cpp |
| 19:46:16 | raptor | where are you stuck, Little_Apple? |
| 19:46:17 | kaen | wherever you declare it the first time |
| 19:46:23 | fordcars | okok |
| 19:46:57 | fordcars | 2>c:\documents and settings\fordcarst\desktop\bitfighter\zap\uigame.cpp(483): error C2065: 'awesomeTrue' : undeclared identifier |
| 19:47:08 | Little_Apple | i think i opened it correctly... |
| 19:47:30 | fordcars | still the same error :( |
| 19:47:36 | Little_Apple | got this... AttributeError: 'MessengerOSXMountainLion' object has no attribute 'title' |
| 19:47:48 | raptor | really? |
| 19:47:52 | bobdaduck | So the OSX one isn't fixed enough yet. |
| 19:47:56 | raptor | quiet you... |
| 19:48:03 | raptor | I can only run so many VMs at once... |
| 19:48:07 | bobdaduck | YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS BROKEN? |
| 19:48:11 | bobdaduck | TURRET FRIENDLY FIRE. |
| 19:48:16 | raptor | with my gimpy fingers |
| 19:48:20 | fordcars | WHAT\ |
| 19:48:20 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:48:39 | bobdaduck | OH. And Raptor: How do I access the MotD? |
| 19:48:40 | fordcars | I miss turret friendly fire |
| 19:48:50 | Little_Apple | lol |
| 19:48:57 | raptor | ok Little_Apple, I will take a look right after my current code update |
| 19:49:01 | | bobdaduck punches fordcars |
| 19:49:02 | Little_Apple | turrets were more fun when they were useless. |
| 19:49:08 | Little_Apple | kk |
| 19:49:08 | kaen | so, you're doing bool varName; in file.h, static bool varName = false; in file1.cpp and extern bool varName; in file2.cpp ? |
| 19:49:14 | | bobdaduck punchees Little_Apple |
| 19:49:15 | raptor | bobdaduck: what was the link he gave you for that? |
| 19:49:24 | | fordcars slaps bobaduck with a smelly fish. |
| 19:49:24 | bobdaduck | bitfighter.org/motd |
| 19:49:26 | Little_Apple | punchees! |
| 19:49:29 | bobdaduck | but you have to pass username |
| 19:49:30 | raptor | puncheese? |
| 19:49:40 | fordcars | punch cheese? |
| 19:49:44 | Little_Apple | pun + cheese |
| 19:49:48 | raptor | is that like, 'you're looking sharp today!' |
| 19:50:03 | kaen | actually I got it all wrong, fordcars |
| 19:50:08 | fordcars | ok |
| 19:50:13 | Little_Apple | yes raptor. |
| 19:50:27 | | bobdaduck punches everyone |
| 19:50:29 | fordcars | Wassup? |
| 19:50:39 | | bobdaduck listens to greely estates |
| 19:50:58 | | fordcars slaps everyone with cheese and punch, pun intended cheese |
| 19:51:11 | kaen | fordcars, this should help you sort things out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_variable#Example_.28C_programming_language.29 |
| 19:51:12 | Little_Apple | I DONT SEE ANY PUNS |
| 19:51:13 | bobdaduck | BRAWL |
| 19:51:18 | bobdaduck | FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT |
| 19:51:36 | raptor | man, first day back, and I don't know what's going on... |
| 19:51:38 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:51:45 | bobdaduck | well |
| 19:51:50 | fordcars | Oh, in file2.cpp, I define it too? |
| 19:51:52 | Little_Apple | i grew a third arm! |
| 19:51:55 | bobdaduck | someone said something I disagreed with |
| 19:52:01 | bobdaduck | so I started a bar fight |
| 19:52:03 | bobdaduck | in the irc. |
| 19:52:34 | kaen | you have to define it without extern somewhere, then you have to declare it with extern anywhere else you want to use it |
| 19:52:52 | bobdaduck | Oh, yeah and apparently Little_Apple grew a third arm mid-brawl. |
| 19:52:55 | Little_Apple | if bitfighter were java it could be a .jar fight |
| 19:52:56 | kaen | you shouldn't actually be putting anything in a header |
| 19:53:07 | bobdaduck | It was very similar to leveling up. |
| 19:53:11 | Little_Apple | IM SORRY |
| 19:53:16 | bobdaduck | I think he got an achievement for it too |
| 19:53:38 | Little_Apple | its great for halloween |
| 19:53:39 | kaen | more importantly, fordcars, you 99.99999999% of the time don't want to use extern, or loose variable at all |
| 19:53:55 | fordcars | but how would you communicate with other files?? |
| 19:53:57 | kaen | it's ok for personal hacks, but that variable probably belongs on a class somewhere |
| 19:54:03 | kaen | hehehe |
| 19:54:30 | kaen | ideally you would use object instances, which have their interfaces defined in .h files |
| 19:54:41 | fordcars | namespace? |
| 19:54:49 | kaen | failing that, static class methods/variables or *gulp* namespaced functions/data |
| 19:55:00 | fordcars | ah ok |
| 19:55:07 | kaen | you can put anything in a namespace |
| 19:55:13 | kaen | that's purely an organizational tool |
| 19:55:27 | fordcars | but kaen, the extern variable still fails |
| 19:55:32 | kaen | huh |
| 19:55:43 | kaen | maybe there's a difference between c++ and c regarding that |
| 19:55:45 | kaen | I'm not really sure |
| 19:55:58 | fordcars | I have extern bool awesomeTrue; in my other .cpp file |
| 19:56:07 | kaen | because I haven't used it in like three years (since the last patch I submitted to freedroidrpg...) |
| 19:56:10 | | kaen shudders |
| 19:56:22 | fordcars | and "extern bool awesomeTrue;" in .h |
| 19:56:31 | kaen | oh |
| 19:56:44 | fordcars | and "bool awesomeTrue;" in the cpp of that .h |
| 19:56:49 | kaen | you shouldn't need anything in .h as far as I know |
| 19:56:56 | fordcars | oh |
| 19:57:04 | kaen | you need to drop an extern from one of the .cpp files, too |
| 19:57:36 | kaen | because if every file says "this variable is defined somewhere else", then it actually never gets defined |
| 19:58:58 | | Little_Apple is still trying to get the thingamabob to work |
| 19:59:26 | kaen | Little_Apple, are you able to execute it with python? |
| 19:59:45 | Little_Apple | i can get the terminal window to say a bunch of wonderful things |
| 19:59:55 | Little_Apple | but it doesnt really do anything |
| 20:00:04 | kaen | sweet, you should pastie those things |
| 20:00:08 | kaen | I read the earlier error |
| 20:00:12 | fordcars | ok so, I got rid of .h stuff, so now in file1.cpp I have "bool awesomeTrue;" and in file2.cpp I have "#include file1.cpp extern bool awesomeTrue;" |
| 20:00:44 | Little_Apple | http://pastie.org/8371112 |
| 20:01:03 | kaen | oh whoa |
| 20:01:11 | kaen | I totally linked to the wrong script in the forum post |
| 20:01:17 | Little_Apple | haha |
| 20:01:34 | | bobdaduck Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 20:01:58 | kaen | try this one https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/browse/bitfighter-notifier/gci/bitfighter-notifier-macosx?repo=tools |
| 20:02:43 | kaen | actually you probably need the entire contents of this folder: |
| 20:02:44 | kaen | https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/browse?repo=tools#hg%2Fbitfighter-notifier%2Fgci%253Fstate%253Dclosed |
| 20:03:30 | Little_Apple | i dont even.. what |
| 20:03:39 | kaen | fordcars, you should not include .cpp files |
| 20:03:43 | fordcars | ARGH STUPID CAPITAL |
| 20:03:49 | fordcars | Yeah I know :) |
| 20:04:15 | Little_Apple | im getting the same error |
| 20:04:25 | kaen | @_@ |
| 20:04:27 | raptor | My first commit! |
| 20:04:49 | | BFLogBot Commit: 9c8916d9e0a1 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Update SDL2 headers to 2.0.0 stable. Also make minor changes for the Linux and OSX config pieces to be more compatible with compiling on more systems |
| 20:04:50 | raptor | ok Little_Apple, on to your problem |
| 20:04:52 | Little_Apple | and now i have 4 copies of the same folder! |
| 20:05:09 | raptor | ok, you ran the: python main_osx.py ? |
| 20:05:15 | raptor | from a terminal |
| 20:05:17 | Little_Apple | yep |
| 20:05:23 | Little_Apple | i can terminals! |
| 20:05:24 | kaen | Little_Apple, the same exact error? because that should definitely not happen... |
| 20:05:31 | Little_Apple | same exact error |
| 20:05:47 | raptor | ok, and how did you download the code? |
| 20:06:04 | Little_Apple | i hit the little zip button on the google code page... |
| 20:06:10 | Little_Apple | DID I DO A BAD THING |
| 20:06:19 | raptor | i didn't know that existed... |
| 20:06:24 | raptor | uh, let me see |
| 20:06:30 | kaen | Little_Apple, you 100% for sure ran the wrong file |
| 20:06:35 | raptor | what OSX version again? |
| 20:06:39 | kaen | the one I linked to has a totally different line 77 |
| 20:06:44 | fordcars | Maybe you should of made the server alerts in c or c++ |
| 20:06:54 | Little_Apple | i've tried them all and none work |
| 20:06:57 | Little_Apple | same error |
| 20:07:10 | raptor | Little_Apple: remove all your notifier folders, I will zip you one of the newest code |
| 20:07:31 | Little_Apple | alrighty |
| 20:08:54 | raptor | Little_Apple: ftp://ftp.novell.com/outgoing/bitfighter.tools.zip |
| 20:08:55 | fordcars | unresolved external symbol "bool Zap::awesomeTrue" (?awesomeTrue@Zap@@3_NA) |
| 20:09:01 | raptor | that is the entire tools repo |
| 20:09:12 | raptor | that will extract a directory called 'bitfighter.tool' |
| 20:09:28 | raptor | in there is the sub-directory 'bitfighter-notifier' |
| 20:09:40 | raptor | in that directory you want to run: python main_osx.py |
| 20:10:01 | Little_Apple | thatswhati'vebeendoing |
| 20:10:15 | Little_Apple | ithink |
| 20:10:20 | raptor | ok good |
| 20:10:25 | raptor | what OSX version? |
| 20:10:44 | Little_Apple | 10.8.2 |
| 20:10:53 | raptor | ok, booting up that system... |
| 20:11:06 | Little_Apple | same error |
| 20:11:18 | raptor | ok, then it may be my fault |
| 20:11:23 | raptor | let me see if it is a quick fix... |
| 20:11:27 | fordcars | alright seems to have worked, maybe |
| 20:11:28 | Little_Apple | ohoho! |
| 20:12:32 | fordcars | It worked yeeeaaahhhh |
| 20:13:19 | Little_Apple | yea! |
| 20:13:52 | fordcars | woho! |
| 20:13:57 | Little_Apple | waha! |
| 20:14:28 | kaen | thimbledrome! |
| 20:14:50 | Little_Apple | quagmatics! |
| 20:15:10 | kaen | isomorphic topological spaces! |
| 20:15:16 | Little_Apple | shoes! |
| 20:15:40 | kaen | strengths! |
| 20:15:55 | kaen | (the longest english word with just one vowel) |
| 20:16:05 | Little_Apple | diarrhea! |
| 20:16:54 | kaen | of the fingertips... |
| 20:17:18 | Little_Apple | wait... diarrhea on your fingertips? or diarrhea coming out of your finger tips? |
| 20:17:28 | Little_Apple | because one could be like a superhero... |
| 20:17:39 | Little_Apple | I AM THE MIGHTY POO HANDS! |
| 20:18:04 | Little_Apple | or the great and mighty poo hands. |
| 20:20:43 | raptor | oh boo, it doesn't work... |
| 20:20:51 | Little_Apple | so i didnt do it wrong? |
| 20:20:59 | raptor | nope |
| 20:21:01 | Little_Apple | yea! |
| 20:34:20 | fordcars | wohoo! |
| 20:35:03 | Little_Apple | shabam! |
| 20:41:51 | Little_Apple | off for the night |
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| 20:43:46 | fordcars | I'll be back in an hour later! |
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| 21:20:04 | fordcars | Hi koda |
| 21:37:17 | raptor | OSX is driving me crazy... |
| 21:46:04 | fordcars | :P |
| 21:46:39 | raptor | fordcars: do you know python? (did I have you test the notifier before?) |
| 21:47:02 | fordcars | hey raptor, do you know where is the code for the actual input in the game (Like controls for moving...) |
| 21:47:21 | fordcars | I tested your notificationner thing, but a long time ago |
| 21:47:32 | fordcars | What's the famous error anyway? |
| 21:47:53 | raptor | take a look at InputCode.cpp |
| 21:48:04 | raptor | some stupid multiple inheritance problem |
| 21:48:10 | fordcars | argh I took looooong looks at that |
| 21:48:13 | fordcars | ah ok |
| 21:49:29 | fordcars | Raptor, maybe the notifications app should of been made in javascript |
| 21:49:41 | fordcars | http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/ |
| 21:51:23 | fordcars | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2492 |
| 21:51:33 | raptor | If we had an OSX-only programmer, then that'd be OK |
| 21:51:55 | raptor | as it is, I don't want to write too much separate code for each platform... which means python |
| 21:52:18 | fordcars | oh ok |
| 21:53:02 | fordcars | The canvas element was first introduced in Dashboard, heh |
| 21:59:44 | kaen | hey, raptor |
| 21:59:51 | kaen | if I'm measuring my angles using TAU |
| 21:59:51 | | BFLogBot Commit: 03e4dc5b83f0 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix OSX 10.8 python notifier. Multiple inheritance with NSObject doesn't work for some reason.. |
| 21:59:58 | kaen | they're not in radians, right? |
| 21:59:58 | raptor | FINISHED THE STOOOPID |
| 22:00:00 | kaen | so like |
| 22:00:03 | raptor | oh hi |
| 22:00:06 | kaen | taudians? |
| 22:00:13 | raptor | no, radians |
| 22:00:23 | raptor | there are 1 tau radians in a circle |
| 22:00:37 | kaen | oh derp |
| 22:00:51 | kaen | this are normalized floats |
| 22:00:54 | kaen | these* |
| 22:01:00 | raptor | oh lovely |
| 22:01:47 | kaen | on a related note |
| 22:01:54 | kaen | I kind of want math.TAU |
| 22:02:15 | raptor | add it! |
| 22:02:17 | kaen | I guess lua would call it math.tau |
| 22:02:26 | kaen | okay! |
| 22:05:14 | raptor | on a positive note: http://tauday.com/state-of-the-tau |
| 22:05:24 | raptor | we should submit a patch to Lua :) |
| 22:05:29 | | BFLogBot Commit: aedad95235e8 | Author: kaen | Message: define math.tau in LuaScriptRunner |
| 22:05:34 | kaen | hehe |
| 22:05:54 | raptor | the biggest issue I see with it is with torque in physics/engineering |
| 22:06:12 | raptor | but those math folks don't consider those 'real' fields anyways... |
| 22:07:21 | kaen | hehe |
| 22:08:20 | kaen | I liked their suggestion of simply defining another constant with the value of tau |
| 22:09:05 | kaen | you could probably pick one or maybe two other characters as standard "tau" fallbacks if you happen to be in a field using tau already |
| 22:09:18 | raptor | ahhh... interesting idea |
| 22:09:24 | raptor | that seems like it might work |
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| 22:11:45 | fordcars | hah tau is 2pi? |
| 22:11:50 | kaen | yep |
| 22:11:53 | raptor | no, pi is 1/2 tau |
| 22:11:57 | raptor | :) |
| 22:11:59 | kaen | hehe |
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| 22:13:05 | fordcars | haha |
| 22:13:19 | kaen | I'm still retraining my brain |
| 22:13:37 | raptor | yeah... we're sort of the pioneers |
| 22:13:47 | raptor | but I think it's much, much simpler to teach |
| 22:13:49 | kaen | I've memorized these equations with pi in them, so I have like convert them to tau |
| 22:13:58 | kaen | I absolutely have to agree |
| 22:14:09 | fordcars | Man, where is the "if key=up, y+1" or somethinG?? |
| 22:14:22 | kaen | fordcars, a good question |
| 22:14:30 | kaen | how pretzel-resistant is your mind? |
| 22:14:37 | raptor | hahaha |
| 22:14:50 | kaen | well, we'll find out |
| 22:14:56 | fordcars | :P |
| 22:15:13 | fordcars | I am trying to add a key combination to do something |
| 22:15:21 | kaen | basically, the key events are routed through each ui object in order, so every ui class has its own key handler |
| 22:15:31 | kaen | I think you're in UIGame ? |
| 22:15:32 | fordcars | oh ok |
| 22:15:39 | fordcars | Yeah |
| 22:15:55 | Flynn | I am pretzel |
| 22:15:57 | kaen | that's line 1131 in the latest commit |
| 22:16:02 | Flynn | ** I like pretzels |
| 22:16:13 | kaen | haha |
| 22:16:26 | raptor | but there are two things: 'text input' and 'key presses' |
| 22:16:35 | fordcars | bool GameUserInterface::onKeyDown(InputCode inputCode) |
| 22:16:39 | fordcars | ? |
| 22:16:41 | raptor | you probably want 'key presses' |
| 22:16:44 | raptor | yes that |
| 22:17:44 | kaen | and you should look in InputCodeEnum.h for KEY_* values |
| 22:18:15 | kaen | if(inputCode == KEY_SPACE) should suit your needs. |
| 22:19:04 | | BFLogBot Commit: 71eaf1b5d814 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Update Windows SDL2 to 2.0.0 release |
| 22:19:10 | kaen | \o/ |
| 22:20:17 | raptor | yay! |
| 22:20:19 | raptor | ok |
| 22:20:33 | raptor | now for that windows build... |
| 22:20:37 | fordcars | Yay it should work :) |
| 22:22:00 | fordcars | OH IT WORKED |
| 22:22:25 | kaen | "That's what foobar2000 is for!" |
| 22:22:33 | kaen | ^ I love this comment on the polish list |
| 22:22:39 | raptor | haha, i just saw that |
| 22:22:49 | kaen | foobar is awesome... |
| 22:23:49 | Flynn | not to be comfused with FUBAR xD |
| 22:23:57 | Flynn | ** confused |
| 22:24:21 | raptor | ok folks, here is your windows build - ftp://ftp.novell.com/outgoing/bitfighter-019-beta-8199-71eaf1b5d814.zip |
| 22:30:42 | raptor | ok, i'm heading in for the night. good night! |
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| 23:02:21 | kaen | hi aaaaaaaa24 |
| 23:02:49 | fordcars | drawHollowFancyBox(S32 xLeft, S32 yTop, S32 xRight, S32 yBottom, S32 cornerInset); |
| 23:03:06 | fordcars | just out of curiosity, what is corner Inset? |
| 23:03:28 | kaen | how much to dog-ear the box |
| 23:03:34 | kaen | I would guess, though I'm not sure |
| 23:04:04 | fordcars | I tried 2, it made a normal box, i tried 100. it made a funny shape thingny |
| 23:06:13 | kaen | try like 15 or something |
| 23:06:27 | kaen | you should be able to call it without that last argument to use the default, but I'm not sure |
| 23:09:43 | Nothing_Much | hello? |
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| 23:43:27 | fordcars | Sorry to bother again, but where is the file for the background stars...? |
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| 23:48:58 | kaen | drawStars is in gameObjectRender.cpp |
| 23:49:12 | kaen | and prepareStars is in UIGame.cpp |
| 23:49:14 | kaen | for some reason... |
| 23:51:03 | fordcars | hah ok thanks |
