#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2014-02-07

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

00:02:37 raptor hi
00:02:41 raptor here for a bit
00:04:19 Nothing_Much How's everyone?
00:04:36 raptor it's going to snow!
00:05:15 Nothing_Much lucky!
00:10:19 kaen Nothing_Much, definitely not, although my involvement is definitely going to drop off at least for the short term
00:10:30 kaen it was 1 degree here this morning :x
00:10:39 kaen -22 with wind chill
00:22:26 Nothing_Much kaen: that's so awesome you got a job though dude
00:23:56 Nothing_Much oh
00:24:06 Nothing_Much does a job teach you more than what you know as well?
00:24:06 Nothing_Much like
00:24:16 Nothing_Much say... OpenGLES?
00:26:53 raptor i'm sure he'll become more proficient at computer graphics rendering
00:27:10 Nothing_Much anything goes basically?
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00:54:35 raptor heading home!
00:54:38 raptor Quit ()
01:25:14 Nothing_Much I have to say
01:25:17 Nothing_Much My mind is stupid
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02:33:28 Nothing_Much fordcars: How did you SSH into your pc before?
02:33:38 fordcars On Windows?
02:33:55 Nothing_Much Linux
02:33:59 fordcars Easy
02:34:04 fordcars Just enable ssh on Linux
02:34:08 fordcars tadaaaa
02:34:17 Nothing_Much I did
02:34:22 Nothing_Much I keep getting permission errors
02:34:29 Nothing_Much And a pubkey,password thing
02:34:30 fordcars Well, do it as sudo
02:35:03 Nothing_Much nope
02:35:13 Nothing_Much Didn't work
02:35:24 fordcars :/ what are the errors?
02:36:02 Nothing_Much "Permission denied (publickey,password)
02:36:04 Nothing_Much "
02:36:36 fordcars when you try to enable it?
02:36:43 fordcars or connect to it?
02:36:44 Nothing_Much The client or ths host?
02:36:45 Nothing_Much Just now
02:39:26 fordcars Sorry, I don't know :(
02:39:50 Nothing_Much well po
02:39:50 Nothing_Much o
02:40:16 kaen Nothing_Much, are you just typeing "ssh <ip address>" ?
02:40:23 Nothing_Much yes
02:40:30 kaen is your username the same on both machines?
02:40:34 Nothing_Much nope
02:40:41 kaen do ssh user@ip
02:40:44 Nothing_Much odroid and nothing@random nubmers
02:40:45 Nothing_Much oh okay
02:41:07 Nothing_Much holy crap thanks!
02:41:14 kaen _o/
02:41:15 fordcars Hahaha
02:41:22 Nothing_Much \o
02:41:26 kaen I know that error from the other side of the country
02:41:35 kaen because it tripped me up more times than I remember :P
02:41:47 Nothing_Much lolol
02:42:50 Nothing_Much Alright
02:43:14 Nothing_Much Now how do I exit from the terminal and ssh without exiting bitfighter?
02:43:41 Nothing_Much oh wait
02:43:42 Nothing_Much it works
02:43:42 Nothing_Much :D
02:44:00 Nothing_Much wait
02:44:01 Nothing_Much nvm
02:44:01 Nothing_Much darn
02:44:22 fordcars Are you in Desktop?
02:44:26 Nothing_Much yeah
02:44:50 fordcars Well, can you just exit, with ctrlC, ssh?
02:45:14 Nothing_Much Without terminating the dedicated server :(
02:45:28 fordcars Yes!
02:45:48 fordcars Well, isnt the server in a different  terminal?
02:46:00 fordcars Oh wit n
02:46:04 fordcars *nmnmnmn
02:46:06 fordcars Uhhhh
02:46:20 kaen you'll have to launch the server in a special way
02:46:25 kaen ./bitfighterd &
02:46:27 kaen disown %1
02:46:29 kaen exit
02:47:00 kaen the ampersand makes it background, disown %1 detaches it from the current tty so it won't terminate when you exit
02:47:20 NothingMuchHereT has joined
02:47:35 kaen did you time out NothingMuchHereT ?
02:47:49 kaen <kaen> you'll have to launch the server in a special way
02:47:49 kaen <kaen> ./bitfighterd &
02:47:49 kaen <kaen> disown %1
02:47:49 kaen <kaen> exit
02:47:49 kaen <kaen> the ampersand makes it background, disown %1 detaches it from the current tty so it won't terminate when you exit
02:48:02 NothingMuchHereT oh goddammit
02:48:04 NothingMuchHereT yeah
02:48:08 kaen lol
02:49:49 NothingMuchHereT hmm..
02:49:50 Nothing_Much Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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02:50:52 Nothing_Much wait
02:50:58 Nothing_Much bitfighterd doesn't exist
02:52:02 Nothing_Much oh
02:52:03 Nothing_Much wait
02:52:08 Nothing_Much the & doesn't help
02:52:17 Nothing_Much well it helps to get a new tty up
02:52:25 Nothing_Much but when I disown it, it exits the server
02:53:50 NothingMuchHereT has joined
02:54:30 NothingMuchHereT Okay maybe I'm just stupid
02:54:32 NothingMuchHereT I was connected to the wrong wifi channel >.<
02:55:18 NothingMuchHereT got it!
02:55:19 NothingMuchHereT woo!
02:55:31 NothingMuchHereT server's now up and runnin' without wifi!
02:56:56 NothingMuchHereT just a quick question
02:57:17 NothingMuchHereT Can you change the amount of points for each map or is that impossible unless done through the level editor?
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03:00:47 Nothing_Much kaen: Join my server and see if you can join/spot it
03:00:54 Nothing_Much or anybody here
03:06:13 Nothing_Much Uh
03:06:21 Nothing_Much kaen: if you have access to the Master server
03:06:24 Nothing_Much You should prolly restart it
03:15:33 Nothing_Much oh holy crap
03:15:36 Nothing_Much all those were mine!
03:15:43 Nothing_Much fordcars: Explain it here
03:15:47 Nothing_Much oh okay
03:15:51 fordcars hehe
03:16:27 fordcars It makes a small hole in your fire wall on your router like that Bitfighter Master Server can connect to it
03:16:48 fordcars I openned one of my ports on my raspberry pi to make my http server accessible from outside my LAN
03:18:36 Nothing_Much Ohh
03:18:47 Nothing_Much That's much simpler than what superuser.com was explaining
03:18:50 Nothing_Much So okay
03:18:57 Nothing_Much What ports does Bitfighter use?
03:19:03 fordcars Uhhh
03:19:08 fordcars 25565 I think
03:19:23 fordcars Uh,
03:19:53 fordcars Nonon, 28000
03:20:39 Nothing_Much 2642?
03:20:51 Nothing_Much oh wait
03:20:54 Nothing_Much that's for the client
03:21:01 Nothing_Much 28000 looks like the server :O
03:21:11 Nothing_Much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mSIL41FaFY
03:21:14 Nothing_Much Ty sam686 :D
03:27:13 Nothing_Much and fordcars
03:28:42 fordcars Heheh welcome :)
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04:24:37 Nothing_Much Hang on
04:24:56 Nothing_Much fordcars: Was your server behind or in front of your router?
04:24:58 Nothing_Much Like
04:24:58 raptor eyes the monkey bars
04:25:01 Nothing_Much Which got the internet first?
04:25:30 fordcars The router!
04:25:30 Nothing_Much Hi raptor
04:25:36 Nothing_Much Dammit
04:25:49 fordcars router -> wi-fi adapter
04:25:52 Nothing_Much Oi, I think this router or my ISP is paranoid
04:26:19 raptor huh, i don't think i talked to watusimoto all day..
04:26:26 fordcars Well, I never tried Bitfighter dedicated server with an open port
04:26:32 Nothing_Much ....
04:26:35 Nothing_Much well then
04:26:38 fordcars It was an Http server
04:26:54 Nothing_Much I'm so confused
04:27:04 fordcars What's your router?
04:27:24 Nothing_Much external or remote address
04:27:25 Nothing_Much wtf
04:27:28 Nothing_Much is that supposed to be?
04:27:33 Nothing_Much Router's an Arris
04:28:22 Nothing_Much Arris TG852G to be exact
04:32:08 fordcars Nothin
04:33:35 fordcars An internal address (remote address, I guess) is the address of your computer in your LAN, we can't access it outside of your network. Your external address is accessible to anybody, we use this to connect to your server.
04:33:42 fordcars Nothing_Much^^
04:34:00 fordcars Internal address: 10.0.1.1
04:34:08 fordcars External: 23.43.234.234
04:34:15 fordcars Or something (those are examples)
04:34:43 fordcars My external Ip address is: 24.202.170.101
04:35:37 Nothing_Much oooooooooi
04:36:37 fordcars http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Arris/TG852G/Age_of_Conan.htm
04:36:45 fordcars Ignore "Age of Conans"
04:36:59 fordcars Static ip is your internal ip
04:37:11 fordcars So, it's 10.0.1.1 or something
04:37:53 fordcars On linux, eth0 | grep "inet addr" | awk -F: '{print $2}' | awk '{print $1}'        will show your internal ip (static ip)
04:39:26 fordcars Nothing_Much, did you go on 192.168.0.1.?
04:39:35 Nothing_Much For the router?
04:39:36 Nothing_Much Yeah
04:39:40 fordcars Ok,
04:39:47 fordcars did you fill in the form?
04:40:06 fordcars Uh, vn
04:40:10 Nothing_Much Dude, I already did that stuff
04:40:30 fordcars And, it works?
04:40:37 fordcars Did you restart your router?
04:40:42 fordcars You have to I think
04:40:43 Nothing_Much I put in the virtual network and trigger options
04:40:46 Nothing_Much Oh goddammit
04:41:12 Nothing_Much Welp, off to restart
04:41:18 fordcars Ok, later :)
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04:56:18 Nothing_Much I guess I'll have a talk with my ISP tomorrow..
04:56:34 fordcars Heh I guess so
05:10:26 fordcars nothing!
05:10:32 fordcars Nothing_Much!
05:10:47 fordcars Your server is not hosting on 1800, and so is mine
05:10:57 fordcars Your server is on 1024
05:16:10 fordcars -dedicated [address] doesn't take an address
05:18:04 raptor -port
05:18:09 fordcars Oh ok
05:18:15 fordcars Sorry, I checked the WIki :O
05:18:33 raptor no wait
05:18:34 raptor i'm wrong
05:18:35 fordcars oh, nope, port doesn't exist
05:18:38 fordcars :P
05:19:07 raptor -hostaddr IP:any:2800
05:19:12 raptor 28000
05:19:47 fordcars Hmm
05:19:52 raptor or maybe it's just:  any:28000
05:19:54 fordcars The port always changes
05:20:07 raptor that will happen if 28000 is already taken
05:20:25 fordcars Oh got it!
05:20:31 fordcars yeah, any:port
05:20:39 raptor ah that's it, good
05:20:59 fordcars Sweet, my Pi server show up as non 999 ping I think
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05:41:22 fordcars Nothing_Much
05:41:24 fordcars ?
05:42:06 fordcars When hosting, add -hostaddr any:2800
05:42:08 fordcars That will work
05:42:17 raptor 28000
05:42:24 fordcars So, bitfighter -dedicated -hostaddr any:28000
05:42:25 fordcars :P
05:44:25 Nothing_Much who what
05:44:53 fordcars What?
05:45:02 Nothing_Much what do I do for the port?
05:45:05 Nothing_Much I didn't use bitfighterd
05:45:14 fordcars How do you run the server?
05:45:14 Nothing_Much I used bitfighter -dedicated :o
05:45:20 fordcars ./bitfighter -dedicated?
05:45:25 Nothing_Much yeah
05:45:36 fordcars Add -hostaddr any:28000!
05:45:57 fordcars Well, "bitfighter -dedicated -hostaddr any:28000"
05:46:01 fordcars That will work
05:46:08 fordcars It worked for me :)
05:47:16 raptor be right back - let's see if I survive a kernel update
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05:47:24 fordcars Ok :)
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05:50:46 raptor survived!
05:51:00 fordcars Yay!
05:51:56 Nothing_Much Unknown cmd line parameter found :/
05:52:36 fordcars What did you type exactly?
05:52:36 Nothing_Much nvm
05:52:39 Nothing_Much My bad
05:52:41 Nothing_Much Misspelling
05:52:41 fordcars oh lols
05:52:44 Nothing_Much x.x
05:52:49 fordcars :P
05:53:12 fordcars NOTHI
05:55:22 Nothing_Much yes?
05:55:35 fordcars nothing :P nm
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06:20:46 raptor night!
06:20:59 raptor Quit ()
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06:49:09 fordcars Night!
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06:51:02 Nothing_Much l8r dude
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16:22:24 raptor good day!
16:50:38 raptor I just discovered:  https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl
16:50:43 raptor that is an amazing tool
16:50:52 raptor let's me get all the sesame street I need!
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18:51:45 raptor YaY for SQL and it's ability to hurt your head!
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19:04:47 Nothing_Much oh my
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19:42:03 Nothing_Much I can't host a dedicated server :(
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20:51:17 Nothing_Much Hey it's active!
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20:58:05 NothingMuchHereT raptor: What's that 999 server about?
20:58:48 raptor hi
20:59:17 NothingMuchHereT There's a server I can't join, probably because I'm too far away
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20:59:37 Nothing_Much and there's quite a few people online here
20:59:40 Nothing_Much is it a school?
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21:01:16 Nothing_Much Hi Watusimoto, is there a school that plays BF at this time?
21:01:44 Watusimoto yes
21:01:51 Watusimoto probably
21:02:10 raptor 999 means behind a firewall
21:02:23 raptor you can still get in sometimes, bitfighter tries to be smart and work around it
21:04:19 raptor oh hi Watusimoto
21:04:23 raptor we should release soon...
21:08:25 Nothing_Much -019a?
21:08:29 Nothing_Much *019a
21:15:21 raptor yes
21:22:52 Watusimoto hi
21:25:21 raptor hello
21:25:51 Nothing_Much nice
21:25:55 Nothing_Much Uh oh dear.
21:26:05 Watusimoto I wanted to ask about the bookmark vs. branch issue you referenced in a recent commit message
21:26:06 Nothing_Much Fordcars needs to fix his server >.>
21:26:40 raptor ah yes
21:26:48 raptor in hg, bookmarks are more like the branches in git
21:26:59 raptor branches are more permanent and messy things
21:27:43 Watusimoto I think a branch was better because I wanted to creaete a parallel version I could develop on but not necessarily fold back into the original branch before 019a (though in the end I did)
21:27:57 Watusimoto I don't think a bookmark would have given me that capability
21:28:10 raptor ok
21:28:19 raptor here is a good primer:  http://mercurial.aragost.com/kick-start/en/bookmarks/
21:31:27 Watusimoto that's a lot to read, but the intro sounded good, but the examples i skimmed over seemed less so; but i'm still not sure
21:32:13 raptor so a named-branch would be like what is used in SDL hg repo, with SDL-1.2, SDL-2.0
21:32:30 Watusimoto right -- big long term stuff
21:32:32 raptor long-term, and the branch is always associated with each changeset
21:33:00 raptor bookmarks are for exactly what you wanted, and travel with the latest changeset on the head
21:33:33 raptor and are for when you want to a short-term feature/bug branch which you plan on merging back
21:33:37 Watusimoto so if I wanted to put the playlist work on hold, I would just start committing on the trunk branch?
21:34:09 raptor yes...  but that's what you'd do in either case
21:34:19 Watusimoto right
21:34:27 Watusimoto ok, well I'll try that next time
21:34:33 raptor with a named-branch however, you have to explicitly close it, and it's a little wonky when merging...
21:35:21 Watusimoto the other thing I wanted to do is make sure that vs37nx could see what I did to his code
21:35:35 Watusimoto but perhaps with bookmarks that would have been apparent as well
21:36:23 raptor yep
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22:02:07 Watusimoto I'm also reviewing items in this thread
22:02:08 Watusimoto http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2155&p=22367&hilit=019+bug#p22367
22:06:09 kaen good day all
22:06:22 Watusimoto hi
22:25:25 BFLogBot Commit: 6ae34e528199 | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Tweak a couple of ingame help messages
22:25:26 BFLogBot Commit: cc2958538ef3 | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Fix minor bug in editor when rotating while dragging.  Fix by prohibiting action.
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22:49:24 raptor GRUMPY
22:49:52 raptor i've been trying to optimize SQL all day, and I just find out my latest fix is *still* not good in all cases
22:49:58 raptor GRUMP GRUMP
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22:56:40 Watusimoto sounds fun.  that's how I spent this past week as well
22:57:23 Watusimoto and I'm really glad I solved my issue (got a 5+ day query to run in about an hour)
22:58:07 Watusimoto I'm a hero now, and no one remembers that I was the one who wrote the 5 day query in the first place :-)
22:58:38 Watusimoto (of course it didn't start out that long... it just the database has been expanding rapidly)
23:13:58 raptor haha
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23:19:28 amgine123 hello
23:23:48 amgine123 hello?
23:23:51 amgine123 hello!
23:23:54 Nothing_Much Hi amgine123
23:23:55 amgine123 hello.
23:24:04 amgine123 hi glad to see your not afk Xd
23:24:20 Nothing_Much I might be after this :(
23:24:25 Nothing_Much what's up dude?
23:28:41 amgine123 trying to convice raptor and kaen that a certin song is better for he loby theme of bitfighter
23:29:57 amgine123 im sure you remeber it
23:31:53 amgine123 afkl much everyone XD
23:31:56 amgine123 afk
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23:45:47 amgine123 hi koda
23:45:53 koda hi amgine123
23:50:22 amgine123 wattisimoraptor oyu dead ?
23:57:00 amgine123 CRASH
23:57:16 amgine123 steps 1 host a bf game 2 make sure its bitmatch 3 press c
23:58:34 Watusimoto hi
23:58:40 amgine123 wattimso crash found
23:58:43 amgine123 look ^^
23:58:48 Watusimoto saw your msg
23:59:01 amgine123 just opened it 5 seconds later found osmthing Xd
23:59:09 Watusimoto pressing c in a bitmatch crashes the game??!?
23:59:28 amgine123 yes
23:59:36 Watusimoto in 019 or a more recent build?
23:59:49 amgine123 im using the build given yesterday
23:59:55 amgine123 a debug build

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00:02:37	raptor	hi
00:02:41	raptor	here for a bit
00:04:19	Nothing_Much	How's everyone?
00:04:36	raptor	it's going to snow!
00:05:15	Nothing_Much	lucky!
00:10:19	kaen	Nothing_Much, definitely not, although my involvement is definitely going to drop off at least for the short term
00:10:30	kaen	it was 1 degree here this morning :x
00:10:39	kaen	-22 with wind chill
00:22:26	Nothing_Much	kaen: that's so awesome you got a job though dude
00:23:56	Nothing_Much	oh
00:24:06	Nothing_Much	does a job teach you more than what you know as well?
00:24:06	Nothing_Much	like
00:24:16	Nothing_Much	say... OpenGLES?
00:26:53	raptor	i'm sure he'll become more proficient at computer graphics rendering
00:27:10	Nothing_Much	anything goes basically?
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00:54:35	raptor	heading home!
00:54:38		raptor Quit ()
01:25:14	Nothing_Much	I have to say
01:25:17	Nothing_Much	My mind is stupid
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02:33:28	Nothing_Much	fordcars: How did you SSH into your pc before?
02:33:38	fordcars	On Windows?
02:33:55	Nothing_Much	Linux
02:33:59	fordcars	Easy
02:34:04	fordcars	Just enable ssh on Linux
02:34:08	fordcars	tadaaaa
02:34:17	Nothing_Much	I did
02:34:22	Nothing_Much	I keep getting permission errors
02:34:29	Nothing_Much	And a pubkey,password thing
02:34:30	fordcars	Well, do it as sudo
02:35:03	Nothing_Much	nope
02:35:13	Nothing_Much	Didn't work
02:35:24	fordcars	:/ what are the errors?
02:36:02	Nothing_Much	"Permission denied (publickey,password)
02:36:04	Nothing_Much	"
02:36:36	fordcars	when you try to enable it?
02:36:43	fordcars	or connect to it?
02:36:44	Nothing_Much	The client or ths host?
02:36:45	Nothing_Much	Just now
02:39:26	fordcars	Sorry, I don't know :(
02:39:50	Nothing_Much	well po
02:39:50	Nothing_Much	o
02:40:16	kaen	Nothing_Much, are you just typeing "ssh <ip address>" ?
02:40:23	Nothing_Much	yes
02:40:30	kaen	is your username the same on both machines?
02:40:34	Nothing_Much	nope
02:40:41	kaen	do ssh user@ip
02:40:44	Nothing_Much	odroid and nothing@random nubmers
02:40:45	Nothing_Much	oh okay
02:41:07	Nothing_Much	holy crap thanks!
02:41:14	kaen	_o/
02:41:15	fordcars	Hahaha
02:41:22	Nothing_Much	\o
02:41:26	kaen	I know that error from the other side of the country
02:41:35	kaen	because it tripped me up more times than I remember :P
02:41:47	Nothing_Much	lolol
02:42:50	Nothing_Much	Alright
02:43:14	Nothing_Much	Now how do I exit from the terminal and ssh without exiting bitfighter?
02:43:41	Nothing_Much	oh wait
02:43:42	Nothing_Much	it works
02:43:42	Nothing_Much	:D
02:44:00	Nothing_Much	wait
02:44:01	Nothing_Much	nvm
02:44:01	Nothing_Much	darn
02:44:22	fordcars	Are you in Desktop?
02:44:26	Nothing_Much	yeah
02:44:50	fordcars	Well, can you just exit, with ctrlC, ssh?
02:45:14	Nothing_Much	Without terminating the dedicated server :(
02:45:28	fordcars	Yes!
02:45:48	fordcars	Well, isnt the server in a different terminal?
02:46:00	fordcars	Oh wit n
02:46:04	fordcars	*nmnmnmn
02:46:06	fordcars	Uhhhh
02:46:20	kaen	you'll have to launch the server in a special way
02:46:25	kaen	./bitfighterd &
02:46:27	kaen	disown %1
02:46:29	kaen	exit
02:47:00	kaen	the ampersand makes it background, disown %1 detaches it from the current tty so it won't terminate when you exit
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02:47:49	kaen	<kaen> you'll have to launch the server in a special way
02:47:49	kaen	<kaen> ./bitfighterd &
02:47:49	kaen	<kaen> disown %1
02:47:49	kaen	<kaen> exit
02:47:49	kaen	<kaen> the ampersand makes it background, disown %1 detaches it from the current tty so it won't terminate when you exit
02:48:02	NothingMuchHereT	oh goddammit
02:48:04	NothingMuchHereT	yeah
02:48:08	kaen	lol
02:49:49	NothingMuchHereT	hmm..
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02:50:52	Nothing_Much	wait
02:50:58	Nothing_Much	bitfighterd doesn't exist
02:52:02	Nothing_Much	oh
02:52:03	Nothing_Much	wait
02:52:08	Nothing_Much	the & doesn't help
02:52:17	Nothing_Much	well it helps to get a new tty up
02:52:25	Nothing_Much	but when I disown it, it exits the server
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02:54:30	NothingMuchHereT	Okay maybe I'm just stupid
02:54:32	NothingMuchHereT	I was connected to the wrong wifi channel >.<
02:55:18	NothingMuchHereT	got it!
02:55:19	NothingMuchHereT	woo!
02:55:31	NothingMuchHereT	server's now up and runnin' without wifi!
02:56:56	NothingMuchHereT	just a quick question
02:57:17	NothingMuchHereT	Can you change the amount of points for each map or is that impossible unless done through the level editor?
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03:00:47	Nothing_Much	kaen: Join my server and see if you can join/spot it
03:00:54	Nothing_Much	or anybody here
03:06:13	Nothing_Much	Uh
03:06:21	Nothing_Much	kaen: if you have access to the Master server
03:06:24	Nothing_Much	You should prolly restart it
03:15:33	Nothing_Much	oh holy crap
03:15:36	Nothing_Much	all those were mine!
03:15:43	Nothing_Much	fordcars: Explain it here
03:15:47	Nothing_Much	oh okay
03:15:51	fordcars	hehe
03:16:27	fordcars	It makes a small hole in your fire wall on your router like that Bitfighter Master Server can connect to it
03:16:48	fordcars	I openned one of my ports on my raspberry pi to make my http server accessible from outside my LAN
03:18:36	Nothing_Much	Ohh
03:18:47	Nothing_Much	That's much simpler than what superuser.com was explaining
03:18:50	Nothing_Much	So okay
03:18:57	Nothing_Much	What ports does Bitfighter use?
03:19:03	fordcars	Uhhh
03:19:08	fordcars	25565 I think
03:19:23	fordcars	Uh,
03:19:53	fordcars	Nonon, 28000
03:20:39	Nothing_Much	2642?
03:20:51	Nothing_Much	oh wait
03:20:54	Nothing_Much	that's for the client
03:21:01	Nothing_Much	28000 looks like the server :O
03:21:11	Nothing_Much	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mSIL41FaFY
03:21:14	Nothing_Much	Ty sam686 :D
03:27:13	Nothing_Much	and fordcars
03:28:42	fordcars	Heheh welcome :)
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04:24:37	Nothing_Much	Hang on
04:24:56	Nothing_Much	fordcars: Was your server behind or in front of your router?
04:24:58	Nothing_Much	Like
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04:25:01	Nothing_Much	Which got the internet first?
04:25:30	fordcars	The router!
04:25:30	Nothing_Much	Hi raptor
04:25:36	Nothing_Much	Dammit
04:25:49	fordcars	router -> wi-fi adapter
04:25:52	Nothing_Much	Oi, I think this router or my ISP is paranoid
04:26:19	raptor	huh, i don't think i talked to watusimoto all day..
04:26:26	fordcars	Well, I never tried Bitfighter dedicated server with an open port
04:26:32	Nothing_Much	....
04:26:35	Nothing_Much	well then
04:26:38	fordcars	It was an Http server
04:26:54	Nothing_Much	I'm so confused
04:27:04	fordcars	What's your router?
04:27:24	Nothing_Much	external or remote address
04:27:25	Nothing_Much	wtf
04:27:28	Nothing_Much	is that supposed to be?
04:27:33	Nothing_Much	Router's an Arris
04:28:22	Nothing_Much	Arris TG852G to be exact
04:32:08	fordcars	Nothin
04:33:35	fordcars	An internal address (remote address, I guess) is the address of your computer in your LAN, we can't access it outside of your network. Your external address is accessible to anybody, we use this to connect to your server.
04:33:42	fordcars	Nothing_Much^^
04:34:00	fordcars	Internal address: 10.0.1.1
04:34:08	fordcars	External: 23.43.234.234
04:34:15	fordcars	Or something (those are examples)
04:34:43	fordcars	My external Ip address is: 24.202.170.101
04:35:37	Nothing_Much	oooooooooi
04:36:37	fordcars	http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Arris/TG852G/Age_of_Conan.htm
04:36:45	fordcars	Ignore "Age of Conans"
04:36:59	fordcars	Static ip is your internal ip
04:37:11	fordcars	So, it's 10.0.1.1 or something
04:37:53	fordcars	On linux, eth0 \| grep "inet addr" \| awk -F: '{print $2}' \| awk '{print $1}' will show your internal ip (static ip)
04:39:26	fordcars	Nothing_Much, did you go on 192.168.0.1.?
04:39:35	Nothing_Much	For the router?
04:39:36	Nothing_Much	Yeah
04:39:40	fordcars	Ok,
04:39:47	fordcars	did you fill in the form?
04:40:06	fordcars	Uh, vn
04:40:10	Nothing_Much	Dude, I already did that stuff
04:40:30	fordcars	And, it works?
04:40:37	fordcars	Did you restart your router?
04:40:42	fordcars	You have to I think
04:40:43	Nothing_Much	I put in the virtual network and trigger options
04:40:46	Nothing_Much	Oh goddammit
04:41:12	Nothing_Much	Welp, off to restart
04:41:18	fordcars	Ok, later :)
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04:56:18	Nothing_Much	I guess I'll have a talk with my ISP tomorrow..
04:56:34	fordcars	Heh I guess so
05:10:26	fordcars	nothing!
05:10:32	fordcars	Nothing_Much!
05:10:47	fordcars	Your server is not hosting on 1800, and so is mine
05:10:57	fordcars	Your server is on 1024
05:16:10	fordcars	-dedicated [address] doesn't take an address
05:18:04	raptor	-port
05:18:09	fordcars	Oh ok
05:18:15	fordcars	Sorry, I checked the WIki :O
05:18:33	raptor	no wait
05:18:34	raptor	i'm wrong
05:18:35	fordcars	oh, nope, port doesn't exist
05:18:38	fordcars	:P
05:19:07	raptor	-hostaddr IP:any:2800
05:19:12	raptor	28000
05:19:47	fordcars	Hmm
05:19:52	raptor	or maybe it's just: any:28000
05:19:54	fordcars	The port always changes
05:20:07	raptor	that will happen if 28000 is already taken
05:20:25	fordcars	Oh got it!
05:20:31	fordcars	yeah, any:port
05:20:39	raptor	ah that's it, good
05:20:59	fordcars	Sweet, my Pi server show up as non 999 ping I think
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05:41:22	fordcars	Nothing_Much
05:41:24	fordcars	?
05:42:06	fordcars	When hosting, add -hostaddr any:2800
05:42:08	fordcars	That will work
05:42:17	raptor	28000
05:42:24	fordcars	So, bitfighter -dedicated -hostaddr any:28000
05:42:25	fordcars	:P
05:44:25	Nothing_Much	who what
05:44:53	fordcars	What?
05:45:02	Nothing_Much	what do I do for the port?
05:45:05	Nothing_Much	I didn't use bitfighterd
05:45:14	fordcars	How do you run the server?
05:45:14	Nothing_Much	I used bitfighter -dedicated :o
05:45:20	fordcars	./bitfighter -dedicated?
05:45:25	Nothing_Much	yeah
05:45:36	fordcars	Add -hostaddr any:28000!
05:45:57	fordcars	Well, "bitfighter -dedicated -hostaddr any:28000"
05:46:01	fordcars	That will work
05:46:08	fordcars	It worked for me :)
05:47:16	raptor	be right back - let's see if I survive a kernel update
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05:47:24	fordcars	Ok :)
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05:50:46	raptor	survived!
05:51:00	fordcars	Yay!
05:51:56	Nothing_Much	Unknown cmd line parameter found :/
05:52:36	fordcars	What did you type exactly?
05:52:36	Nothing_Much	nvm
05:52:39	Nothing_Much	My bad
05:52:41	Nothing_Much	Misspelling
05:52:41	fordcars	oh lols
05:52:44	Nothing_Much	x.x
05:52:49	fordcars	:P
05:53:12	fordcars	NOTHI
05:55:22	Nothing_Much	yes?
05:55:35	fordcars	nothing :P nm
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06:49:09	fordcars	Night!
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06:51:02	Nothing_Much	l8r dude
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16:22:24	raptor	good day!
16:50:38	raptor	I just discovered: https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl
16:50:43	raptor	that is an amazing tool
16:50:52	raptor	let's me get all the sesame street I need!
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18:51:45	raptor	YaY for SQL and it's ability to hurt your head!
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19:04:47	Nothing_Much	oh my
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19:42:03	Nothing_Much	I can't host a dedicated server :(
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20:51:17	Nothing_Much	Hey it's active!
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20:58:05	NothingMuchHereT	raptor: What's that 999 server about?
20:58:48	raptor	hi
20:59:17	NothingMuchHereT	There's a server I can't join, probably because I'm too far away
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20:59:37	Nothing_Much	and there's quite a few people online here
20:59:40	Nothing_Much	is it a school?
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21:01:16	Nothing_Much	Hi Watusimoto, is there a school that plays BF at this time?
21:01:44	Watusimoto	yes
21:01:51	Watusimoto	probably
21:02:10	raptor	999 means behind a firewall
21:02:23	raptor	you can still get in sometimes, bitfighter tries to be smart and work around it
21:04:19	raptor	oh hi Watusimoto
21:04:23	raptor	we should release soon...
21:08:25	Nothing_Much	-019a?
21:08:29	Nothing_Much	*019a
21:15:21	raptor	yes
21:22:52	Watusimoto	hi
21:25:21	raptor	hello
21:25:51	Nothing_Much	nice
21:25:55	Nothing_Much	Uh oh dear.
21:26:05	Watusimoto	I wanted to ask about the bookmark vs. branch issue you referenced in a recent commit message
21:26:06	Nothing_Much	Fordcars needs to fix his server >.>
21:26:40	raptor	ah yes
21:26:48	raptor	in hg, bookmarks are more like the branches in git
21:26:59	raptor	branches are more permanent and messy things
21:27:43	Watusimoto	I think a branch was better because I wanted to creaete a parallel version I could develop on but not necessarily fold back into the original branch before 019a (though in the end I did)
21:27:57	Watusimoto	I don't think a bookmark would have given me that capability
21:28:10	raptor	ok
21:28:19	raptor	here is a good primer: http://mercurial.aragost.com/kick-start/en/bookmarks/
21:31:27	Watusimoto	that's a lot to read, but the intro sounded good, but the examples i skimmed over seemed less so; but i'm still not sure
21:32:13	raptor	so a named-branch would be like what is used in SDL hg repo, with SDL-1.2, SDL-2.0
21:32:30	Watusimoto	right -- big long term stuff
21:32:32	raptor	long-term, and the branch is always associated with each changeset
21:33:00	raptor	bookmarks are for exactly what you wanted, and travel with the latest changeset on the head
21:33:33	raptor	and are for when you want to a short-term feature/bug branch which you plan on merging back
21:33:37	Watusimoto	so if I wanted to put the playlist work on hold, I would just start committing on the trunk branch?
21:34:09	raptor	yes... but that's what you'd do in either case
21:34:19	Watusimoto	right
21:34:27	Watusimoto	ok, well I'll try that next time
21:34:33	raptor	with a named-branch however, you have to explicitly close it, and it's a little wonky when merging...
21:35:21	Watusimoto	the other thing I wanted to do is make sure that vs37nx could see what I did to his code
21:35:35	Watusimoto	but perhaps with bookmarks that would have been apparent as well
21:36:23	raptor	yep
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22:02:07	Watusimoto	I'm also reviewing items in this thread
22:02:08	Watusimoto	http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2155&p=22367&hilit=019+bug#p22367
22:06:09	kaen	good day all
22:06:22	Watusimoto	hi
22:25:25		BFLogBot Commit: 6ae34e528199 \| Author: watusimoto \| Message: Tweak a couple of ingame help messages
22:25:26		BFLogBot Commit: cc2958538ef3 \| Author: watusimoto \| Message: Fix minor bug in editor when rotating while dragging. Fix by prohibiting action.
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22:49:24	raptor	GRUMPY
22:49:52	raptor	i've been trying to optimize SQL all day, and I just find out my latest fix is still not good in all cases
22:49:58	raptor	GRUMP GRUMP
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22:56:40	Watusimoto	sounds fun. that's how I spent this past week as well
22:57:23	Watusimoto	and I'm really glad I solved my issue (got a 5+ day query to run in about an hour)
22:58:07	Watusimoto	I'm a hero now, and no one remembers that I was the one who wrote the 5 day query in the first place :-)
22:58:38	Watusimoto	(of course it didn't start out that long... it just the database has been expanding rapidly)
23:13:58	raptor	haha
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23:19:28	amgine123	hello
23:23:48	amgine123	hello?
23:23:51	amgine123	hello!
23:23:54	Nothing_Much	Hi amgine123
23:23:55	amgine123	hello.
23:24:04	amgine123	hi glad to see your not afk Xd
23:24:20	Nothing_Much	I might be after this :(
23:24:25	Nothing_Much	what's up dude?
23:28:41	amgine123	trying to convice raptor and kaen that a certin song is better for he loby theme of bitfighter
23:29:57	amgine123	im sure you remeber it
23:31:53	amgine123	afkl much everyone XD
23:31:56	amgine123	afk
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23:45:53	koda	hi amgine123
23:50:22	amgine123	wattisimoraptor oyu dead ?
23:57:00	amgine123	CRASH
23:57:16	amgine123	steps 1 host a bf game 2 make sure its bitmatch 3 press c
23:58:34	Watusimoto	hi
23:58:40	amgine123	wattimso crash found
23:58:43	amgine123	look ^^
23:58:48	Watusimoto	saw your msg
23:59:01	amgine123	just opened it 5 seconds later found osmthing Xd
23:59:09	Watusimoto	pressing c in a bitmatch crashes the game??!?
23:59:28	amgine123	yes
23:59:36	Watusimoto	in 019 or a more recent build?
23:59:49	amgine123	im using the build given yesterday
23:59:55	amgine123	a debug build