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| 00:04:32 | amgine123 | good news raptor and bad news |
| 00:04:41 | amgine123 | so you know how i cant host or test a level ? |
| 00:04:49 | amgine123 | its cause somthing is corrupted in te ini |
| 00:04:54 | amgine123 | nuking fixes it but |
| 00:05:09 | amgine123 | some combintation of settings will cause crashes |
| 00:05:48 | raptor | ok |
| 00:05:53 | raptor | that's a good start |
| 00:05:59 | raptor | can you do the following for me? |
| 00:06:09 | raptor | 1. nuke the INI |
| 00:06:19 | raptor | 2. start the game and quickly exit |
| 00:06:28 | raptor | 3. save the copy of the new INI |
| 00:06:42 | raptor | 4. start the game again and host |
| 00:06:57 | amgine123 | well if i change nothing in the INI it works but |
| 00:07:06 | raptor | i want those exact steps |
| 00:07:08 | amgine123 | when im setting settings somthing is conflicting |
| 00:07:16 | raptor | i want 3 copies of the INI |
| 00:07:26 | raptor | 1. the brand new one with starting and exiting quickly |
| 00:07:27 | amgine123 | clarify |
| 00:07:38 | raptor | 2. the INI after you host a game |
| 00:07:46 | raptor | 3. the INI after you cannot host a game |
| 00:08:07 | amgine123 | ok im stupid what is te difference between them ? |
| 00:08:16 | amgine123 | between 2 and 3 |
| 00:08:28 | amgine123 | maybe i did find a bug te whole time raptor :) |
| 00:08:39 | amgine123 | took me way to long to track it down though |
| 00:08:44 | raptor | for #2, host a game... hopefully it won't crash... then exit and save the INI as copy #2 |
| 00:08:45 | amgine123 | kinda odd im a bug magnet |
| 00:09:00 | amgine123 | I find bugs wihout trying |
| 00:09:03 | amgine123 | ^_^ |
| 00:09:12 | raptor | then for INI #3, host a game where it crashes, and get me that copy afterwards |
| 00:09:17 | raptor | is that clearer? |
| 00:09:35 | amgine123 | uh so for 3 you want the ini that crashes it after ive tested it crashes ? |
| 00:11:40 | raptor | yes please |
| 00:11:49 | amgine123 | 1. pastie after being nuked then hosted once |
| 00:11:51 | amgine123 | http://pastie.org/9185805 |
| 00:11:54 | raptor | no pastie |
| 00:12:03 | amgine123 | I what site then ? |
| 00:12:06 | raptor | I need the files exactly as they are |
| 00:12:21 | amgine123 | uh how would i get them to you |
| 00:12:22 | raptor | make copies of them into a folder, rename them something like bitfighter.ini.1, etc. |
| 00:12:37 | amgine123 | the folders |
| 00:12:48 | raptor | then zip them up and post the zip file to sam's upload site here: http://sam6.25u.com/upload3.php |
| 00:13:30 | raptor | also, i need a copy of the INI after being nuked, but before you host |
| 00:13:46 | raptor | so nuke, start game, quit game --> save INI |
| 00:13:55 | raptor | please |
| 00:14:04 | amgine123 | ok ini 1 done now what |
| 00:14:17 | raptor | now host a game, quit, save INI |
| 00:14:21 | raptor | that's number 2 |
| 00:14:26 | amgine123 | wait |
| 00:14:27 | amgine123 | uhh |
| 00:14:41 | amgine123 | darn it im so confused :$ |
| 00:14:46 | amgine123 | did i do 2 as 1 ? |
| 00:14:48 | raptor | yes |
| 00:14:51 | raptor | that's OK |
| 00:14:59 | amgine123 | oops |
| 00:15:04 | raptor | just do #1 again - nuke, start, quit (quickly) |
| 00:15:23 | amgine123 | wait no i think i did 1 correctly |
| 00:15:26 | raptor | then #3 is the one that's crashy |
| 00:15:37 | raptor | i have to go to dinner... i'll be back soon |
| 00:15:39 | raptor | thanks! |
| 00:15:42 | amgine123 | ok |
| 00:15:46 | amgine123 | hope it is a bug |
| 00:22:12 | amgine123 | hope you get back soon i still dont understand the difference from 1 to 2 |
| 00:22:19 | amgine123 | I get three though |
| 00:31:23 | amgine123 | brb swtiching to HC |
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| 00:35:58 | amginea | hi |
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| 00:44:54 | raptor | hi again |
| 00:49:11 | amginea | ok |
| 00:49:16 | amginea | so im still confused |
| 00:49:24 | amginea | I got 2 currently |
| 00:49:35 | amginea | the crashy one and 1 where i nuked then hosted an quit |
| 00:49:58 | amginea | whats te third one ? |
| 00:50:52 | raptor | the third one |
| 00:51:00 | raptor | is nuke it, start the game, quit the game |
| 00:51:09 | raptor | no hosting |
| 00:51:21 | raptor | this is the 'control' INI |
| 00:52:42 | raptor | it's very simple |
| 00:52:58 | amginea | oh |
| 00:53:00 | amginea | DERP |
| 00:53:33 | amginea | me thinks my brains are scrambled |
| 00:55:08 | amginea | cant belive i misunderstood somthing so easy |
| 00:58:22 | raptor | no problem |
| 00:58:31 | raptor | when you have the 3, zip them up and upload to that page |
| 01:03:26 | amginea | uhh link again? sorry |
| 01:04:34 | amginea | ready to upload never |
| 01:07:24 | amginea | uh raptor what was te link for the uplaod again ? |
| 01:23:35 | raptor | hi amginea |
| 01:23:43 | raptor | here is the link: http://sam6.25u.com/upload3.php |
| 01:23:51 | raptor | i cannot accept DCC transfers |
| 01:25:36 | raptor | also, please put all 3 INIs into a zip file |
| 01:33:27 | amginea | uh since it seems to only let me put 1 file in a a time how do i ZIP them |
| 01:34:43 | raptor | but all three files in a folder, then zip the folder |
| 01:34:49 | raptor | you can rename the files |
| 01:38:07 | amginea | got it |
| 01:38:13 | amginea | stored them |
| 01:41:36 | amginea | hope this is a legitimente bug |
| 01:41:53 | amginea | and that your not chasing nuetrinos |
| 02:04:59 | amginea | so is a it a legitimite bug or are we chasing ghosts ? |
| 02:05:21 | amginea | doing that would always crash it for me so I think its dupable |
| 02:05:39 | raptor | I need you to send me the link after you upload |
| 02:14:44 | amginea | uh what is it ? |
| 02:14:59 | amginea | Temp file: /tmp/phpj7lSmF ? |
| 02:15:12 | amginea | or do you mean http://sam6.25u.com/upload3.php |
| 02:25:38 | raptor | sorry, back again |
| 02:25:52 | raptor | amginea: did you upload on that page and click submit? |
| 02:26:07 | amginea | yes I did ? |
| 02:26:25 | raptor | after you click submit, it will give you a link to the upload so you can share it |
| 02:26:37 | raptor | but i think i found it - is the zip file called INIS.zip ? |
| 02:26:47 | amginea | yes |
| 02:27:10 | raptor | got them |
| 02:27:12 | raptor | thanks!' |
| 02:27:17 | raptor | taking a look... |
| 02:27:38 | amginea | Its not a level corruption because 1 and 2 work |
| 02:27:45 | amginea | 3 didnt work for me |
| 02:27:53 | amginea | theres a setting somwhere conflicting |
| 02:28:04 | amginea | there is only i hting i removed in the INi |
| 02:28:11 | amginea | the blank for my password |
| 02:28:30 | amginea | If by chance i forgot to delte it please tell me so i cahnge my password |
| 02:28:57 | amginea | hop this bug wont be as elusive as a nuetrino and dark matter |
| 02:29:02 | raptor | ok, looks liek passwords are removed |
| 02:29:12 | amginea | whew ok |
| 02:29:17 | amginea | paniced for a moment |
| 02:29:21 | amginea | oops |
| 02:29:29 | amginea | forgot to remove the pass i use for my server |
| 02:29:32 | amginea | ah well |
| 02:31:31 | amginea | I suspect Logging is at fault |
| 02:32:06 | amginea | phone |
| 02:32:14 | raptor | did you change those logging options? |
| 02:33:47 | amginea | yeah |
| 02:34:03 | amginea | set it to log Evertyhing in event of a crash |
| 02:35:39 | raptor | well at first glance I don't see anything wrong yet - let me load up 019c with your INI |
| 02:35:45 | raptor | you just go straight into hosting? |
| 02:38:42 | amginea | yeah |
| 02:38:54 | amginea | dedicate host or test a level in the editor |
| 02:40:07 | raptor | hmm... no crash in Linux |
| 02:40:10 | raptor | let me test Windows |
| 02:40:14 | amginea | i got windows |
| 02:40:41 | amginea | IF worst comes to worst want to use teamviewer and eatch me crash it exactly ? |
| 02:41:04 | amginea | team viewer is a screen sharing program it also lets you transfer files |
| 02:43:19 | amginea | *hops for a crsh* |
| 02:43:26 | amginea | *hopes crash |
| 02:44:22 | raptor | it didn't crash :( |
| 02:44:30 | raptor | but i couldn't log in as you, either |
| 02:44:38 | raptor | actually amgine |
| 02:44:54 | raptor | can you get me another crashy INI, but without using your username? |
| 02:45:06 | raptor | that way you don't edit the file at all to remove password |
| 02:45:12 | raptor | *passwords |
| 02:48:43 | amginea | ok |
| 02:49:00 | amginea | eh thing is I edit it THEN it crashes so what f i remove the crash |
| 02:49:37 | raptor | just do everything you normally do to make it crash, except for using your name |
| 02:49:59 | raptor | that way you don't have to remove passwords... |
| 02:52:52 | amginea | DING DING DING CRASH! |
| 02:53:15 | raptor | ok, now give me the exact INI without altering it in any way |
| 02:53:36 | amginea | does this help btw ? Exception Code: 40000015 |
| 02:53:36 | amginea | Exception Offset: 0029eaa7 |
| 02:54:21 | raptor | no |
| 02:55:24 | amginea | stored |
| 02:56:04 | raptor | link to file? |
| 02:57:43 | amginea | : upload/Crashy INI 2.ini |
| 02:57:48 | raptor | ok thanks |
| 02:58:35 | amginea | do you think its possible a Network resctiction setting and a INI setting are conlicfintg causing a crash ? |
| 02:58:43 | amginea | on my computer ? |
| 02:58:54 | raptor | it could be... |
| 02:59:17 | raptor | but i doubt it because you can host again after nuking the INI every time, right? |
| 03:00:47 | amginea | correct |
| 03:01:39 | raptor | rats, no crash again... |
| 03:02:31 | raptor | are you running in 019c standalone? |
| 03:02:42 | amginea | yes |
| 03:02:51 | amginea | does a standalone make a difference ? |
| 03:03:02 | raptor | it shouldn't... |
| 03:03:05 | raptor | but i will try it |
| 03:03:19 | amginea | nothing is worse then a untrackable bug Xd |
| 03:03:40 | amginea | want to try to use team viewer as a last resort ? |
| 03:03:49 | amginea | If you cant get it ? |
| 03:04:19 | raptor | I may, but not tonight - I have to sign off in a bit |
| 03:04:28 | amginea | al right |
| 03:04:44 | amginea | it wouldnt take more then 10 minutes |
| 03:05:39 | raptor | are you using the stock levels? |
| 03:06:18 | raptor | can you zip your levels folder up and send that to me? |
| 03:07:16 | amginea | its not the levels but ok |
| 03:07:28 | amginea | cause when INI is at default the levels load |
| 03:07:34 | amginea | in fact im able to host |
| 03:07:41 | amginea | and play them fine |
| 03:07:53 | raptor | it probably isn't, but maybe it is a combination of the INI + levels |
| 03:09:09 | amginea | copy and pasting 93 megabytes of data |
| 03:09:28 | amginea | lol |
| 03:10:12 | raptor | was it zipped? |
| 03:10:48 | amginea | no im ziping it now |
| 03:11:34 | amginea | oh sh** wrong file |
| 03:11:38 | amginea | woops |
| 03:11:42 | amginea | sorry bout that |
| 03:11:59 | amginea | could it be INI + robot + levgen ? |
| 03:12:12 | amginea | ok uploaded |
| 03:12:26 | amginea | upload/amgines levels.zip |
| 03:14:39 | raptor | thanks! |
| 03:15:16 | raptor | i have to go now, thansk for your help so far |
| 03:15:30 | raptor | night! |
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| 03:15:39 | amginea | night |
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| 23:06:52 | raptor | hello again |
| 23:07:03 | raptor | would it be helpful if I programmed an IRC log search? |
| 23:07:19 | raptor | maybe we don't use the logs that much... |
| 23:08:29 | raptor | j ircpuzzles |
| 23:08:32 | raptor | oops |
| 23:24:21 | Nothing_Much | raptor: yeah that'd be nice |
| 23:24:28 | Nothing_Much | I'd like to remember when I first joined this community |
| 23:24:41 | Nothing_Much | or search for when I first checked the game out |
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