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06:34:28Nothing_Muchvoice echo works fine


06:37:22Nothing_Muchwait, what's going on?


06:37:30Nothing_Muchopus?


06:37:43Nothing_Muchdoes it make the voice quality sound better? ;D


06:37:45Nothing_Much:D


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12:35:05ChanServ sets mode +o


12:35:11raptorgood day!


12:35:48raptorWatusimoto: are you around?


12:35:54Watusimotoyes


12:35:56Watusimotohi


12:36:02raptorhi


12:36:12raptordo you have a moment to test the new voice codec?  :)


12:36:22raptorif you ahve a computer with a microphone...


12:37:28WatusimotoI could if you could give me a binary -- i can't build at the moment


12:37:35raptorbehold!:  http://sam6.25u.com/upload/bitfighter-opus.7z


12:37:40raptorwin32, is that OK?


12:37:45Watusimotoyes


12:38:12raptorand don't worry about revealing your real voice...  it's still  8000 Hz so not that great quality  :)


12:38:38raptormostly i just want to check that it is somewhat intelligible on either end


12:39:54raptor(I'm sure you're not worried about revealing your voice..  I think...)


12:40:08Watusimotook


12:40:22Watusimotorunning,in lobby


12:40:26raptori'm hosting


12:40:39Watusimotooops


12:40:49raptor107.108...


12:41:06Watusimotohttp://i.imgur.com/sV02iMl.png


12:41:19raptorWHAT


12:41:29Watusimotoclicking ignore brings exit


12:41:36raptorstack trace?


12:41:54Watusimotodidn't see one


12:41:55raptoris there an error somewhere in the current windows build?


12:42:08raptoroh, can you run on command line?


12:42:30Watusimotohttp://i.imgur.com/KGGln8z.png


12:42:44raptorha!


12:42:54raptorok, that's probably a bug elsewhere


12:43:04raptorummm...  is there a way to directly join from the command line?


12:43:31Watusimotoare you in the lobby?


12:43:37raptorno, i'm hosting a game


12:43:45Watusimotook, quit back to main menu


12:43:50raptordone


12:44:07Watusimotook, host now


12:44:17raptori'm hosting


12:44:20raptorin game


12:44:35Watusimotogetting stuck on this negative index thing


12:44:42Watusimotovery weird... it worked the first time


12:44:44raptormust be a settings issue...


12:45:13Watusimotono


12:45:25WatusimotoI deleted bitfighter.ini, and I still get the same thing


12:45:31Watusimotoare you hosting


12:45:33raptoryes


12:45:39Watusimotook, stop hosting again


12:45:44raptordone


12:46:07Watusimotook, host


12:46:13raptorin game


12:46:28Watusimotook, not going to work


12:46:34raptoryou host?


12:46:38Watusimotonegative index pops up


12:46:39Watusimotook


12:47:00Watusimotohosting


12:47:32raptorha!  negative index


12:47:37Watusimotoboo!


12:47:44raptorok, it's a settings issue - i got a stack trace


12:47:49raptorwe'll have to try later


12:47:50Watusimotook, well, it works out because I've been summoned to breakfast


12:48:01Watusimotoour music rocks!


12:48:01raptorand i've been summoned to go raspberry picking!


12:48:04Watusimotoback later


12:48:09raptorbye, me too


12:48:09Watusimotoenjoy your berries


12:48:10raptorlater


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12:54:56raptorUIQueryServers.cpp:845


12:55:02raptorTNLAssert(!(selectedIndex < 0 && servers.size() >= 0), "Negative index?");   // Assert added Jul 2014 by Wat


12:55:08Nothing_Muchraptor: did something happen with the speex or opus thing?


12:55:09raptorso you added it recently


12:55:30raptorhi Nothing_Much, i'm hoping to test it, yes, but i only have a windows build to test with at the moment


12:55:54Nothing_Muchah darn


12:56:10raptorbut I have to run for now.  back later!


12:56:11Nothing_Muchlemme know when you get a .deb or if you have compiling instructions I can do that!


12:56:23raptorok  :)


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12:56:59Nothing_Muchnice


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13:23:10Nothing_MuchHey fordcars


13:23:15fordcarsHey


13:23:22Nothing_MuchWhat's up?


13:23:25fordcarsWassup?


13:23:30fordcarsNothing_Much haha


13:24:23fordcarsIt's really easy to compile Bitfighter on Linux btw


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13:32:19Nothing_Muchfordcars: Yeah I know


13:32:25Nothing_MuchThe thing is, I need that Opus thingy


13:32:33Nothing_MuchAnd I don't know how to add it to Opus


13:32:41Nothing_MuchOh fordcars, you're learning how to compile for Linux? :D


13:32:57Nothing_MuchIt's super easy, in fact, why doncha compile it on your RPi? :D


13:33:16fordcarsI did it a few times on Pi haha


13:33:47Nothing_MuchNot the server


13:33:48Nothing_MuchThe client


13:33:50Nothing_Much:D


13:34:01fordcarsOh lol no, needs OpenGL 2


13:34:08fordcarsBitfighter ^^


13:34:17Nothing_MuchDoes not!


13:34:22fordcarsDoes so!


13:34:35Nothing_MuchI was told it can run on OpenGL 1.2 hardware!


13:34:46Nothing_Muchwait


13:34:51fordcarsRaspberry Pi is Open GL 2 hardware!


13:34:53fordcarsHaha


13:34:55Nothing_MuchRPi doesn't have OpenGL standard, right?


13:35:12fordcarsBitfighter is OpenGl 1.2, RPi is OpenGL 2


13:35:21fordcarsWe need to update Bitfighter


13:35:29Nothing_MuchRight, but it should compile for it, no?


13:35:40Nothing_MuchSince GL2 is backwards compatible with 1.2 right?


13:35:43fordcarsI did compile it on Pi, and it worked at 6fps


13:35:52fordcarsusing Desktop


13:36:09fordcarsBut no, it's not Backwards compatible with OGL1.2, it's too different


13:36:25fordcarsOGL 2 has shaders


13:36:32Nothing_Muchoh right


13:36:36Nothing_MuchBut that's odd


13:36:42Nothing_MuchI have GL 4.0 hardware


13:36:50Nothing_MuchThat so far uses OpenGL 3.3


13:37:03fordcarsBut it supports Ogl 1.2


13:37:13fordcarsRPi doesn't I think


13:37:23Nothing_MuchHmm...


13:37:43Nothing_MuchWhat if I attempted a cross compile of Bitfighter on my x86 PC to Armv6?


13:38:25Nothing_MuchAnd you could test it out?


13:38:28fordcarsWait sorry, OpenGL ES 2 is not backward compatible with OpenGL ES 1, that is why it doesn't work


13:38:48fordcarsNothing_Much, the Raspberry Pi still won'y work with it :(


13:38:56fordcarsIt doesn't have the hardware to run it


13:39:13Nothing_MuchThat's embedded GL


13:39:20fordcarsIt runs under Emulation though (or something like that) for graphics, but it is extremely slow


13:39:25Nothing_MuchI'm talkin' 'bout just plain OpenGL


13:39:42fordcarsRPi only supports OpenGL ES 2


13:39:53fordcarsBitfighter can work with OpenGL ES 1 I think


13:40:01fordcarsSorry :P


13:40:12Nothing_Much:(


13:40:20Nothing_MuchGotta know your API differences man


13:40:34fordcarsLol I don't :P


13:40:54fordcarsBut I know that RPi only supports ES


13:41:08Nothing_MuchYeah, just looked that up


13:41:16fordcarsBitfighter only supports OpenGL 1.2 and OpenGL ES 1 (using SDL 2) I think


13:41:48Nothing_MuchHmm...


13:42:05Nothing_MuchDid you upgrade to Wayland on your RPi?


13:42:06Nothing_Mucho.o


13:42:56fordcarsHuh?


13:43:16Nothing_MuchDo you use Wayland on your Pi?


13:43:39fordcarsOh, I don't use much right now I think


13:43:44fordcarsI keep reflashing the SD card


13:43:46fordcars:3


13:43:59fordcarsi think I have Fedora on it now, with it's Desktop


13:44:10Nothing_Muchnice


13:44:25Nothing_MuchTry Raspbian again, I think they added a new lightweight Wayland desktop to it o.o


13:44:40fordcarsOhh cool :)


13:44:42fordcarsI will


13:44:42Nothing_MuchI'm trying to figure out if I can compile OpenGLES support without the hardware


13:44:51fordcarsNothing_Much, of course!


13:45:04Nothing_MuchOh you can?


13:45:07fordcarsI think you only need opengl libs


13:45:12Nothing_MuchDUDE


13:45:15Nothing_MuchI CAN TOTALLY DO THAT


13:45:15fordcarsAnd Compile for Armv6


13:45:19Nothing_MuchYES


13:45:21Nothing_MuchWOO


13:45:22fordcarsHaha


13:45:29Nothing_MuchGotta figure out the libs first


13:45:33Nothing_MuchGLES 2.0 right?


13:45:57Nothing_Muchfordcars: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/maynard-raspberry-pi-lightweight-desktop-ubuntu


13:46:15fordcarsYep, but Bitfighter won't give a sh** about OpenGL ES 2 :(


13:46:32Nothing_MuchYou sure about that?


13:47:04fordcarsYeah :( kaen said he might update it to OGL 2 eventually


13:47:11fordcarsThus working on OpenGL ES 2


13:47:48Nothing_MuchUh


13:47:58Nothing_MuchI don't think GL and GLES are compatible with each other


13:48:05fordcarsBitfighter is ;)


13:48:21fordcarsWell, I think it is


13:48:33fordcarsBitfighter worked out of the box with OpenGL ES 1.1


13:48:58Nothing_MuchInteresting


13:49:10fordcarsRaspberry Pi actually supports OpenGL ES 1.1, but it's not hardware accelerated


13:49:12Nothing_MuchHold up, where's the latest source code for Bitfighter?


13:49:16fordcarsSo that is why I had 6fps


13:49:21fordcarsWith Bitfighter on Pi


13:49:24Nothing_MuchYeah


13:49:36Nothing_MuchDude, I can't find the 019c source!


13:49:42fordcarshttps://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/checkout


13:49:46fordcarsWait


13:49:53fordcarsBleeding-edge?


13:50:22fordcarsOh lol, they removed the source code download on bitfighter.org


13:50:32fordcarsI think you have to get bleeding-edge


13:50:37fordcarsWith Mercurial


13:50:41Nothing_MuchWhat? Why?


13:50:57Nothing_MuchI need the stable build if I'm gonna be compiling.


13:50:59fordcarsI don't know haha


13:51:10Nothing_MuchAw man


13:51:22fordcarsWait!


13:51:23fordcarshttps://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/downloads/list


13:51:27fordcarsIt's still here :)


13:51:37fordcarsThis one: 	bitfighter-019.tar.gz


13:52:24Nothing_MuchIs it 019c?


13:52:34fordcarsYep, well it's the latest release


13:52:41fordcarsSo 19c I guess


13:52:45Nothing_MuchI'll see 'bout that


13:53:24fordcarshttp://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Building_Bitfighter


13:53:29fordcarsHow to compile Bitfighter


13:53:47fordcars!cgi


13:53:51fordcarsEH


13:53:56fordcars!gci


13:53:56BFLogBotGCI Students Welcome!  Please see: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/GCI_Student_Bootstrap for getting started.


13:54:03Nothing_MuchOh nice


13:54:09fordcarsThat's a great tutorial


13:54:25fordcarsMore updated than the other one


13:54:26Nothing_MuchI use GNU/Linux tho


13:54:28Nothing_Muchlol


13:55:04fordcarsYeah, use the Boostrap one


13:55:07Nothing_MuchOh there it is


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14:00:54Nothing_MuchGot the -dev files :D


14:01:56fordcars:D


14:04:39Nothing_Muchuh oh


14:04:48Nothing_MuchRed error shows up but it doesn't say anything


14:04:54Nothing_MuchIt's outdated :(


14:05:06fordcarsapt-get?


14:05:08Nothing_MuchOr it could be that


14:05:11fordcarsapt-get install stuff


14:05:21Nothing_Muchfordcars: I got everything I needed


14:05:29fordcarsDev tools?


14:05:39fordcarsWhat do they errors say?


14:06:05Nothing_Muchfordcars: What do you mean?


14:06:12fordcarsThe "red erros"


14:06:14Nothing_Muchno wait


14:06:17Nothing_MuchI launched the game


14:06:22Nothing_MuchBitfighter launched


14:06:25fordcarsReally? Nice!


14:06:26Nothing_MuchAfter it connected to the master server


14:06:34Nothing_MuchA red box error popped up


14:06:38Nothing_MuchWithin the game


14:06:55Nothing_MuchI assume it's telling me that there's a new version of the game out


14:07:00Nothing_MuchBecause it's blank


14:07:08fordcarsWait


14:07:20fordcarsCan you just press esc?


14:07:38Nothing_MuchYeah I did that


14:07:41Nothing_MuchBut it's outdated


14:07:42Nothing_Muchafaik


14:07:49Nothing_Muchno wait


14:07:52Nothing_Muchthere's no sounds


14:07:57Nothing_Muchlemme check if I missed a step


14:08:45fordcarsMaybe you forgot a lib


14:08:55fordcarsProbably not


14:09:28Nothing_MuchHold up


14:09:32Nothing_MuchI missed the last step


14:09:52Nothing_Muchbut I'm getting an unexpected token "do"


14:10:12Nothing_Muchwhoope


14:10:13Nothing_Muchs


14:10:15Nothing_Muchwhoops*


14:11:14fordcarsLolwut


14:11:17fordcarsI know!


14:11:20Nothing_MuchLemme download the source again


14:11:30fordcarsDo you have the ressources i


14:11:36fordcarsin the correct folder?


14:12:34Nothing_MuchYeah


14:12:38Nothing_MuchI'm just gonna re-download the source


14:14:42fordcarsOk


14:17:14Nothing_Muchoh hey


14:17:19Nothing_Muchhttps://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/list?name=bitfighter-019c


14:17:27Nothing_MuchI think this is the latest stable :O


14:19:51Nothing_MuchAgh, it's a damaged tar


14:21:38fordcarsIt's damaged??


14:22:00fordcarsEh


14:26:20Nothing_MuchYeah, extraction gives me an error


14:27:07fordcarsOh


14:27:30fordcarsYou can get the latest if you want, it's not unstable, it just has a few bugs


14:27:52fordcarsAnd if you do, updating the code is as easy as one command


14:27:56fordcarshg pull -u


14:28:00fordcarsWith mercurial


14:30:25Nothing_MuchI want the 019c dammit


14:30:31Nothing_MuchSo you can try it out on your RPi


14:30:40Nothing_MuchIf it works then put it on the Pi store :D


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14:31:53fordcars:P


14:31:56fordcarsOkok, wait


14:32:04fordcarsGah


14:32:16Nothing_MuchDon't get your Pi out yet


14:32:23Nothing_MuchI've yet to compile anything dude


14:32:39fordcarsI know :PPPP


14:32:50fordcarsUhm, but what is your plan?


14:33:39Nothing_MuchTo compile with GLES 2.0


14:33:51fordcarsOkoko


14:33:53fordcarsGood luck haha


14:33:56Nothing_MuchI wonder if it's just a matter of moving files and folders


14:34:12fordcarsI managed to extract the tar here


14:34:31fordcarsAll seem well


14:35:35fordcarsGet mercurial


14:35:42fordcarsIt'll be your best friend


14:35:46fordcarsAnd let you get 19c


14:35:51fordcarsthe "right" way


14:37:48fordcarsapt-get install mercurial


14:38:06Nothing_MuchAlright, how do I change to the 019c branch?


14:38:13Nothing_MuchOr tag? Whatever it is?


14:38:19Nothing_MuchI got mercurial


14:38:34fordcarsUhm, hg update [somthing]


14:38:41fordcarsWait


14:38:43fordcarsSorry


14:38:45fordcarsUh


14:39:17fordcarsOk


14:39:31fordcars3d96b9c7635f


14:40:09fordcarshg clone -r 3d96b9c7635f


14:40:11fordcarsI am guessing


14:40:12Nothing_Muchoh dude


14:40:14Nothing_Muchhttp://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5339186185895936


14:40:15Nothing_Much:D


14:40:20fordcarsThis will get 019c


14:40:52fordcarsYeah, somedude did that, helped a lot!


14:41:02fordcarsCmake stuff


14:41:21fordcarsNothing_Much, try hg clone -r 3d96b9c7635f


14:41:27fordcarsIn the dir you want it to be


14:41:30fordcarsin


14:41:41fordcars3d96b9c7635f is the rev number of 019c


14:41:53fordcarsWait!


14:41:55fordcarsSorry


14:42:08Nothing_Muchwut


14:42:11Nothing_Mucho.o


14:42:24fordcarshg clone https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/ -r 3d96b9c7635f


14:43:34fordcars^^


14:44:27fordcarsNothing_Much, that is comfirmed to work :)


14:44:34Nothing_MuchGot it :D


14:44:37Nothing_Muchadding file changes


14:44:37fordcarsYay!


14:44:53fordcarsYou can update whenever you wan


14:44:54fordcarst


14:45:00Nothing_Muchwhy would I?


14:45:09fordcars020?


14:45:10Nothing_Muchstable releases are for the consumer o.o


14:45:17fordcarsWhen it comes out


14:45:19Nothing_Muchwell that's not stable or released yet


14:45:27fordcarsI know :P


14:45:27Nothing_MuchI'd stick to the downloading process and stuff


14:45:53fordcarsYeah, but updating the code


14:45:55Nothing_MuchWait a sec.


14:45:59fordcarsIf 020 is released


14:46:05Nothing_MuchThe guy who made the GLES thing was vs37nx?


14:46:12fordcarsYeah


14:46:15fordcarsWeird, right?


14:46:23fordcarsIt was a small proejct though


14:46:38fordcarsChanging things in cmake stuff I think


14:46:40Nothing_MuchStrange, I thought GLES support would be tons of work


14:46:43Nothing_MuchAh


14:48:23fordcarsBitfighter already support GLES 2


14:48:28fordcars*supported


14:48:40fordcars**** OGLES 1


14:56:39Nothing_Muchhmm..


14:56:45Nothing_Muchcan't seem to find the GLES 2 libs..


14:58:44Nothing_Muchwhy doesn't it ask for SDL2 thougH?


14:58:57Nothing_MuchIt says could NOT find SDL


14:59:06Nothing_MuchYet it doesn't include the 2


14:59:24Nothing_Muchyou know what?


14:59:31Nothing_MuchI'm just gonna go for the latest one in google code


15:01:20fordcarsI don't think you'll be able to port Bitfighter to GLES 2 though :(


15:01:42Nothing_MuchI'm not a programmer/dev, so you're right about that :(


15:01:49Nothing_MuchBut I could try to force it to use GLES 2


15:01:55Nothing_MuchBy putting in the directories


15:01:59Nothing_Muchor somethihn


15:02:00Nothing_Much'


15:02:04Nothing_Muchsomethin'*


15:02:07fordcarsMaybe, but GLES doesn't have fixed functions I think


15:02:15Nothing_MuchAnd I have no idea what that is lol


15:02:54fordcarsFor programmable hardware: OpenGL ES 2.0 is defined relative to the OpenGL 2.0 specification and emphasizes a programmable 3D graphics pipeline with the ability to create shader and program objects and the ability to write vertex and fragment shaders in the OpenGL ES Shading Language. OpenGL ES 2.0 does not support the fixed function transformation and fragment pipeline of OpenGL ES 1.x. Learn More...


15:03:05fordcars:(


15:03:10Nothing_Muchboo


15:03:20Nothing_Muchbut maybe there's been an update for GLES 2...


15:03:28fordcarsYou can still get the latest code and build it for your platform, it's always cool


15:03:35Nothing_MuchYeah I'm doin' that right now


15:03:42Nothing_MuchMercurial's doin' its thang


15:03:47fordcarsYou can eventually contribute to the code :D


15:04:02Nothing_Muchif I get into programming :(


15:04:11fordcarsIt's easy!


15:05:08fordcarsOpenGL ES 1 -> http://www.khronos.org/assets/uploads/apis/opengles_1x_pipeline.gif   OpenGL ES 2 -> http://www.khronos.org/assets/uploads/apis/opengles_20_pipeline2.gif


15:05:14fordcarsInteresting stuff though


15:07:19Nothing_Muchwhat the heck is poly2tri?


15:09:27fordcarsDunno, it's a Bitfighter lib tho


15:09:37fordcarsOh I now


15:09:46fordcarsIt's for generating bot zones


15:09:52fordcarsFor movement


15:11:17Nothing_Muchnice


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15:23:26Nothing_MuchOPENGLES_INCLUDE_DIR is set to ~/bitfighter/zap


15:23:49Nothing_Muchbut I'm not seeing any libs


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15:24:20fordcarsYeah, the libs are in /opt/vc/ogl on RPi


15:24:24fordcarsI think


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15:25:17Nothing_MuchAccording to FindOpenGLES.cmake, it's in /opt/vc


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15:26:21Nothing_MuchHold up


15:26:24Nothing_MuchI think I'm missing mesa-egl


15:27:33Nothing_MuchOh wait, I'm.. wait


15:27:40Nothing_Muchnope I'm not


15:27:42Nothing_Muchdarn


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15:34:46fordcarsLolwut


15:35:09Nothing_MuchI guess changing directories doesn't work, sadly :(


15:35:13Nothing_Muchoh well, bbl


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15:38:52fordcarsLater


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16:09:54raptorhello again


16:10:22raptorWatusimoto:  at UIQueryServers.cpp:845


16:10:23raptorTNLAssert(!(selectedIndex < 0 && servers.size() >= 0), "Negative index?");   // Assert added Jul 2014 by Wat


16:12:00raptorlooks like it was added/changed in e98969c2f00e


16:12:06raptorwhich was that const refector


16:16:15Watusimotough


16:16:48raptoractually it looks like it was an assert just added when deciding to remove the negative check


16:17:02raptorso if you're OK with me reverting that part, I can do it


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16:19:33raptormostly I want to know why you decided that commenting out the check and adding the assert was OK


16:20:13Watusimotomaybe I thought it never happened


16:20:28Watusimotowell... I must have thought it never happened


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16:21:04raptorit does happen on first load of the screen.  the getSelectedIndex() method returns -1 on failure


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16:22:30raptorohhh...  i see


16:22:33raptori just reverted it


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16:22:50raptorand because the method is const, it disallows setting the selectId member


16:23:02raptorso you commented it out to ge it to compile


16:25:47Watusimotohmmmm.....


16:25:52Watusimotomaaaaaybe I did


16:26:03Watusimotoforensic debugging!


16:26:21raptoranyways, i made it compile, and i think my fix is harmless enough


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16:27:24raptorback in a bit..


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18:46:39raptorhi again


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19:05:28raptoroh hey!  we've got more than 10000 commits!


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19:55:36raptorWatusimoto: how do we make a bool a YesNo ?


19:55:40raptorin the settings?


19:58:15raptorjust a simple cast YesNo(someBool) ?


19:58:54WatusimotoI think you can just do if(yesNoVar) then ...


19:59:11Watusimotobecause Yes is 1 and No is 0


19:59:19Watusimotoit is an enum, if I recall


19:59:32Watusimotooh, the other way


19:59:39raptoryes it is, but it doesn't seem to work as seamless with bool as I thought it did


19:59:48raptorhuh?


19:59:50Watusimotouh...  we do it all the time


19:59:57Watusimotogo from bool to YesNo


20:00:01Watusimotothere must be a helper


20:00:36raptorif i do a setSetting(key, someBool) the setting doesn't automagically convert to YesNo


20:01:38raptorah, ok.  found an example:  show ? Yes : No


20:01:44raptorwhere show is a bool


20:01:45raptorok


20:01:47raptorthanks


20:03:17BFLogBot Commit: 242ec3aad4 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix broken setting with bool and YesNo


20:03:27raptormaybe we should automatically translate a bool into a YesNo?


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20:09:50Watusimotoyes, probably we should; or at least add an override that takes a bool


20:27:12Nothing_MuchWhat's Wishnet?


20:35:14raptorok, i think i solved most of the bugs to allow us to test Opus


20:36:17raptorhowever, one last bug remains - connecting to a remote server always fails with a boost exception about a Level object:  http://pastie.org/pastes/9520380/text


20:36:29raptoris that the bug you're working on?


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