#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2014-09-30

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04:49:40 BFLogBot Commit: c58808a811 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Break barrier.h/cpp into several class files to make it easier to keep track of what is what
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11:20:06 NeonPortal YOOO wutup Nothing_Much  (:
11:32:06 NeonPortal Whats going on sam686
11:33:27 sam686 hi
11:34:05 NeonPortal sam686:  is there a tutorial Video to be specific on the map editor. I drew out a really fun looking map while I was at work doing nothing
11:34:28 NeonPortal I wanted to edit it in but I really dont know how to expand walls and tint them etc..etc....curve them and whatnot..
11:35:40 sam686 you can press F1 or read the instructions, then press spacearrow keys
11:37:37 NeonPortal Whats a typical good score for a bitmatch? 50??
11:37:44 NeonPortal With Unlimited time.
11:37:57 sam686 depends if there is teams
11:38:04 sam686 50 good with teams
11:38:14 sam686 but i may say 20 good without teams
11:40:33 NeonPortal there are 4 teams...
11:40:40 NeonPortal But idk...I think 4 teams might be too much..
11:41:24 NeonPortal 2 teams would do it.
11:42:01 sam686 There are barely 5% of maps with 4 or more teams.
11:47:15 NeonPortal Yeaah ik but it wouldnt be a big enough map
11:47:18 NeonPortal CTF will be different.
11:47:28 NeonPortal Maybe.
11:48:06 NeonPortal The community isn't quite big enough to have teamspeak with team leaders and stuff.
11:48:12 NeonPortal Would be awesome though wouldnt you say?
11:50:16 sam686 there is some voice chat in bitfighter, holding down "R" to voice chat to team
11:50:33 sam686 or everyone in game if no teams in map
11:52:28 NeonPortal Is that configurable to be voice activated and echo reducted?
11:53:33 sam686 you can turn off voice echo in options
11:53:56 sam686 but there isn't a voice activated option, maybe not yet
11:57:34 NeonPortal How does one make a smooth rounded wall??
11:59:09 sam686 it involves using scripts, available scripts is listed in instruction page 5/5 (i think)
11:59:20 NeonPortal it still says coming soon ):
11:59:20 sam686 one of which is ctrl+; for circle/curve
11:59:30 sam686 page 5, not 4
11:59:49 NeonPortal oh whoops
11:59:52 NeonPortal i see now :P
12:02:38 NeonPortal hmmm..
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12:03:25 raptor good day!
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12:03:33 NeonPortal I am sorry sam686  but I still dont understand how to make a rounded arc
12:03:51 NeonPortal I used ctrl+; and got into it but couldnt get further than that
12:04:48 sam686 it will show up somewhere when "run plugin" is selected, not esc button.
12:05:01 sam686 usually shows up at the middle of map.
12:06:12 sam686 remember to make sure the angle is not zero, try 180 or 360
12:06:38 NeonPortal Perfect
12:06:40 NeonPortal I see now
12:06:47 NeonPortal I was way out of the center of the mao :P
12:07:13 sam686 in menus, you can push backspace then enter numbers rather then left/right arrows if you wish
12:07:30 sam686 well, the center of map is (0,0)
12:07:41 sam686 maybe your entire map was off-center.
12:08:19 NeonPortal naw it was my fault for not using my brain :P
12:09:16 NeonPortal So using the same technique I can make triangles as well?
12:10:14 sam686 it could make triangles if precision is 3 and type is polygon or zone
12:10:46 sam686 its best to have precision to 32
12:11:00 NeonPortal Precision 3? I cant't get below 4
12:11:44 sam686 well.. didn't notice that,  you can still get precision to 3 by pressing backspace and pressing 3
12:12:05 sam686 just don't go lower then 3 for a zone, or lower then 2 for a wall
12:12:17 NeonPortal Alrighty c:
12:13:25 BFLogBot Commit: 8a27bcb09f | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix case-sensitive file name on non-Windows platforms
12:13:27 BFLogBot Commit: 57e424fe0c | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix compiling with recent barrier.h/.cpp file split
12:14:02 sam686 did more testing it looks like you can go down to precision 2 for zone
12:14:41 NeonPortal IM making a triangular platform
12:15:07 sam686 just don't make a 2 point loadout zone and goal zone as it will disappear then saving
12:15:33 NeonPortal Whats the difference between a wall and a pollywall
12:16:03 NeonPortal a polywall is solid?
12:16:20 sam686 polywall can create cool shapes, yes its solid like a zone
12:16:27 NeonPortal Perfect (:
12:17:09 sam686 I managed to crash it trying to create a goalzone with a precision of 0 in curve plugin
12:17:49 NeonPortal What exactly is precision? The amount of points there are?
12:18:06 sam686 yes, plus one more as the plugin adds it.
12:19:42 NeonPortal If I make a design on a map and it all turns out too big, if I select it all can I reduce its size porportionally to everything else?
12:20:13 NeonPortal Ort to small for that matter
12:20:44 raptor ctrl+shift+x
12:20:49 raptor see the editor help
12:23:26 NeonPortal How do I reduce size though x.x
12:23:41 NeonPortal Figured a dash would work but
12:23:44 sam686 you enter 0.5 for half size
12:25:53 NeonPortal right, thanks
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12:33:12 NeonPortal REpairs are always Nuetral right?
12:34:51 sam686 repair items like forcefield and turrents can be restricted to any team
12:35:03 sam686 neutral can be repaired by any team though
12:35:15 NeonPortal So when I make repairs I have to use them under neutral
12:35:20 NeonPortal Gotit.
12:35:48 sam686 if repairs is not neutral then only that team can repair it, basically
12:36:46 watusimoto sam686: we have team-based repairs??
12:36:54 watusimoto and good morning to all
12:37:08 sam686 i meant repairing forcefield and turrents
12:37:20 sam686 in a team game
12:37:20 watusimoto oh, right
12:37:22 watusimoto sorry
12:37:31 raptor hi watusimoto - please update before making more changes, i had to rename a file
12:37:37 watusimoto I read "repair" as an adjetive, not a verb
12:37:39 NeonPortal Thanks for clearing that up for me watusimoto
12:37:51 watusimoto raptor: ok
12:38:05 watusimoto did my changes last night  build for you?
12:38:11 raptor negatory
12:38:19 watusimoto oh boy
12:38:23 raptor i already committed
12:38:27 raptor they're all fixed now
12:38:30 watusimoto sorry
12:38:39 raptor wasn't hard  :)
12:38:41 watusimoto it built for me, from the cmake file
12:38:49 watusimoto did I get a case error?
12:38:57 raptor yes...  but you don't have a case-se...  yes
12:39:20 watusimoto I originally called the file "Polywall.cpp" then later changed it to "PolyWall.cpp"
12:39:23 watusimoto and .n
12:39:33 raptor the cpp wasn't actually renamed
12:39:42 watusimoto ".h" I mean
12:39:47 raptor you can see my changes - they were minor
12:40:42 watusimoto what?!?
12:40:58 watusimoto I am positive I renamed Polywall.cpp to PolyWall.cpp
12:41:09 raptor the .h was
12:41:09 watusimoto and I re-added it to the repo
12:41:14 watusimoto I did both
12:41:22 watusimoto argh
12:41:43 watusimoto sorry
12:42:33 watusimoto why did you need cmath in barrier.cpp?
12:42:46 raptor abs() was ambiguous
12:42:53 raptor didn't compile
12:42:54 watusimoto There must be some vcc/g++ difference there
12:42:59 watusimoto vc++
12:43:01 watusimoto man
12:43:06 watusimoto my typing is off to a bad start
12:43:20 raptor i suspect it was included somewhere in a header on the old barrier.h
12:43:26 raptor but wasn't when the split was done
12:43:39 sam686 windows version of turtoiseHG may not see the renamed file (especially if changing only upper/lowercase) unless you right click, turtoise menu then choose rename file
12:44:26 watusimoto I un-added then re-added the files after the rename
12:44:46 watusimoto I must have mucked something up... it was almost 2AM, and I no longer consider that my normal bedtime
12:44:57 raptor hah
12:45:08 watusimoto I've managed to dial it back to something like 12:30-1AM
12:45:20 raptor that's the time of night where I barely have the brain power to tell myself i don't have the brainpower
12:45:31 watusimoto I get up a little earlier, get a little more sleep, and feel better... but I also get less bitfighter done
12:46:08 watusimoto When in Luxembourg, I'd be great until 1-1:30, sometimes until 2
12:46:15 watusimoto I work well in the evenings
12:49:40 sam686 this small screenshots shows where to select to rename http://sam6.25u.com/upload/renameturtoisehg.png
12:50:15 raptor huh...  i randomly get crashes when hosting a game and pressing '/' to enter a command
12:51:29 raptor http://pastie.org/pastes/9607802/text
12:51:55 raptor 0xffffffffffffffff can't be right
12:52:26 sam686 I found an editor crash  pressing # (for me it is ctrl+3) button while dragging an item to the dock, then after releasing mouse button while on dock, pressing numbers and enter.
12:54:16 sam686 Zap::getDisplayItemCount (items=0xffffffffffffffff, itemCount=23807)    itemcount doesn't look right either..
13:01:01 sam686 raptor,  by the time I breakpoint at the same stack as yours, mine have items=0xcdcdcdcdcdcdcdcd itemCount=-842150451
13:01:43 raptor haha  OCD OCD OCD
13:01:49 raptor microsoft humor
13:02:42 raptor sounds like something wasn't initialized properly
13:02:55 sam686 That -842150451 number is CDCDCDCD in hex too
13:04:06 sam686 i think "CD" is deleted memory, and "CC" is just uninitalized, i think
13:09:15 NeonPortal Hey guys what is going on with editor??? I have a line going straight and now that I have added polygons when I tried to stretch it it keeps trying to snap to a grid that isnt straight
13:10:15 sam686 hold down space while moving points"?
13:10:28 sam686 oops
13:10:48 sam686 i guess i was reading some really old chat here
13:11:02 sam686 or not
13:11:42 raptor this is kind of neat and low-tech:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtKBzwKfP8E&feature=youtu.be
13:15:38 NeonPortal Is there a way I can make things more precise to the grid?
13:17:43 NeonPortal ah nvm
13:17:47 sam686 i don't know if theres a way,  one reason for not being on grid is the resizing and rotation
13:18:17 sam686 don't worry much, it can save at almost any position, even if off grid
13:20:45 NeonPortal Well holding space will suspend it
13:21:24 NeonPortal But if your telling me that when resize everything it will snap it back onto the grid I wont worry about suspending it into where I exactly want it until I resize it to what I want.
13:22:13 NeonPortal Although that doesn't seem to be an issue.
13:22:29 sam686 resizing rotating doesn't snap to grid, the only time it can snap to grid is if you move items or points.
13:35:01 BFLogBot Commit: 600c75a480 | Author: sam8641 | Message: fix uninialized variable
13:35:22 sam686 eventually I found a problem, the need to set variable to zero
13:35:29 koda 0xffffffffffffffff is totally right
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14:11:23 raptor sam686: was that really the fix??
14:13:29 sam686 yes, uninitalized list of counters
14:13:37 raptor it works!
14:13:39 raptor thanks!
14:14:54 sam686 getDisplayItemCount(mCurrentRenderItems, mCurrentRenderCount);   mCurrentRenderItems might as well stay as junk pointer, its the mCurrentRenderCount that need to be initalized to zero
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14:58:54 watusimoto so sam686 and raptor each reported one weird crashing error.  have both been fixed?
14:59:29 watusimoto I wrote them down but don't want to spend time fixing them if they're already done :-)
15:00:27 raptor sam686 fixed mine
15:01:05 raptor i think his other one is probably difficult to fix...  being in the editor
15:01:46 watusimoto probably easy enough, but the steps to reproduce are lengthy
15:02:20 watusimoto ok, I've croseed yours off my list, and retrieved it from the recycle bin
15:02:38 watusimoto so I still have sam686's as outstanding
15:05:44 raptor i should see if the tests compile...
15:07:30 watusimoto they did, but I suspect the no longer do
15:07:38 watusimoto they did a couple of weeks ago, that is
15:07:49 watusimoto and they all passed, except one that isn't finished
15:08:12 watusimoto mostly because we don't have good coverage for the stuff my refactor touched
15:09:33 watusimoto sam686: your name in irc has a little "sonic boom" icon next to it.  any idea what that means?  i.e. could it mean that you have irc voice chat somehow set up?
15:10:08 watusimoto (I understand this is a client-specific icon, but it does mean something is different about you)
15:14:54 sam686 what, its the "ChanServ set mode +v sam686", the v part meaning voice, such as when channel goes voice only that only voice and ops can chat..
15:15:16 watusimoto irc can do voice??
15:15:26 raptor yes
15:15:34 sam686 some channel is voice only, this one isn't
15:15:51 raptor we could set up an official IRC meeting "Meet the Devs!"  then require voice for people to talk
15:18:57 sam686 the editor undo causes barriers to become kindof invisible
15:19:36 sam686 polywall is unaffected and stays visible though..
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15:22:02 sam686 the drag into dock, press ctrl+#, then release mouse button, not limited to ctrl+c, also happens if you press enter (if turret or speedzone is selected to drag into dock)
15:24:52 sam686 i have trouble editing speedzone attributes,    enter editor, select speedzone, and press enter
15:25:54 watusimoto noted
15:28:31 sam686 enter editor, then press 9, team index out of range
15:29:47 sam686 enter editor menu, configure teams, then press +,   got a Assert: Expected to have been added to a game by now! in ..\..\zap\Level.cpp line 477
15:34:42 sam686 loading some level takes a long time like minutes or even hours, where over 95% of the time is spent in mergePolys and clipper.
15:35:06 sam686 (in editor, hosting that level loads much faster)
15:35:48 sam686 EditorUserInterface::addToEditor uses onGeomChange which is kindof slow.. maybe too slow.
15:37:30 sam686 can't change gametype in editor, the same assert expected to have game by now
15:41:40 sam686 some of my levels, mostly all that uses "BarrierMakerS" have broken polywall... http://bitfighter.org/levels/levels/view/55
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16:38:43 raptor this bash vulnerability has made it crazy here at work
16:39:23 watusimoto lucky you!
16:39:52 raptor lots of people asking for patches...  who haven't bought maintenance
16:40:12 raptor or who run old systems already out of support
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16:59:13 sam686 https://www.google.com/search?q=bash+vulnerability&tbs=qdr:w  ("Past week")
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17:19:42 sam686 simply updating bash does help, like it did help on me. http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1409/140930_16-18-14.txt
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20:35:20 amgine123 hello
20:37:24 amgine123 anything new to test ?
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20:56:22 amgine123 whats is the bitfighter stats page
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22:12:20 BFLogBot Commit: 8f15e87342 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Line endings
22:47:50 BFLogBot Commit: b8b51bc48b | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix crash when changing to team 9 on a level with fewer teams
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11:20:06	NeonPortal	YOOO wutup Nothing_Much (:
11:32:06	NeonPortal	Whats going on sam686
11:33:27	sam686	hi
11:34:05	NeonPortal	sam686: is there a tutorial Video to be specific on the map editor. I drew out a really fun looking map while I was at work doing nothing
11:34:28	NeonPortal	I wanted to edit it in but I really dont know how to expand walls and tint them etc..etc....curve them and whatnot..
11:35:40	sam686	you can press F1 or read the instructions, then press spacearrow keys
11:37:37	NeonPortal	Whats a typical good score for a bitmatch? 50??
11:37:44	NeonPortal	With Unlimited time.
11:37:57	sam686	depends if there is teams
11:38:04	sam686	50 good with teams
11:38:14	sam686	but i may say 20 good without teams
11:40:33	NeonPortal	there are 4 teams...
11:40:40	NeonPortal	But idk...I think 4 teams might be too much..
11:41:24	NeonPortal	2 teams would do it.
11:42:01	sam686	There are barely 5% of maps with 4 or more teams.
11:47:15	NeonPortal	Yeaah ik but it wouldnt be a big enough map
11:47:18	NeonPortal	CTF will be different.
11:47:28	NeonPortal	Maybe.
11:48:06	NeonPortal	The community isn't quite big enough to have teamspeak with team leaders and stuff.
11:48:12	NeonPortal	Would be awesome though wouldnt you say?
11:50:16	sam686	there is some voice chat in bitfighter, holding down "R" to voice chat to team
11:50:33	sam686	or everyone in game if no teams in map
11:52:28	NeonPortal	Is that configurable to be voice activated and echo reducted?
11:53:33	sam686	you can turn off voice echo in options
11:53:56	sam686	but there isn't a voice activated option, maybe not yet
11:57:34	NeonPortal	How does one make a smooth rounded wall??
11:59:09	sam686	it involves using scripts, available scripts is listed in instruction page 5/5 (i think)
11:59:20	NeonPortal	it still says coming soon ):
11:59:20	sam686	one of which is ctrl+; for circle/curve
11:59:30	sam686	page 5, not 4
11:59:49	NeonPortal	oh whoops
11:59:52	NeonPortal	i see now :P
12:02:38	NeonPortal	hmmm..
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12:03:25	raptor	good day!
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12:03:33	NeonPortal	I am sorry sam686 but I still dont understand how to make a rounded arc
12:03:51	NeonPortal	I used ctrl+; and got into it but couldnt get further than that
12:04:48	sam686	it will show up somewhere when "run plugin" is selected, not esc button.
12:05:01	sam686	usually shows up at the middle of map.
12:06:12	sam686	remember to make sure the angle is not zero, try 180 or 360
12:06:38	NeonPortal	Perfect
12:06:40	NeonPortal	I see now
12:06:47	NeonPortal	I was way out of the center of the mao :P
12:07:13	sam686	in menus, you can push backspace then enter numbers rather then left/right arrows if you wish
12:07:30	sam686	well, the center of map is (0,0)
12:07:41	sam686	maybe your entire map was off-center.
12:08:19	NeonPortal	naw it was my fault for not using my brain :P
12:09:16	NeonPortal	So using the same technique I can make triangles as well?
12:10:14	sam686	it could make triangles if precision is 3 and type is polygon or zone
12:10:46	sam686	its best to have precision to 32
12:11:00	NeonPortal	Precision 3? I cant't get below 4
12:11:44	sam686	well.. didn't notice that, you can still get precision to 3 by pressing backspace and pressing 3
12:12:05	sam686	just don't go lower then 3 for a zone, or lower then 2 for a wall
12:12:17	NeonPortal	Alrighty c:
12:13:25		BFLogBot Commit: 8a27bcb09f \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Message: Fix case-sensitive file name on non-Windows platforms
12:13:27		BFLogBot Commit: 57e424fe0c \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Message: Fix compiling with recent barrier.h/.cpp file split
12:14:02	sam686	did more testing it looks like you can go down to precision 2 for zone
12:14:41	NeonPortal	IM making a triangular platform
12:15:07	sam686	just don't make a 2 point loadout zone and goal zone as it will disappear then saving
12:15:33	NeonPortal	Whats the difference between a wall and a pollywall
12:16:03	NeonPortal	a polywall is solid?
12:16:20	sam686	polywall can create cool shapes, yes its solid like a zone
12:16:27	NeonPortal	Perfect (:
12:17:09	sam686	I managed to crash it trying to create a goalzone with a precision of 0 in curve plugin
12:17:49	NeonPortal	What exactly is precision? The amount of points there are?
12:18:06	sam686	yes, plus one more as the plugin adds it.
12:19:42	NeonPortal	If I make a design on a map and it all turns out too big, if I select it all can I reduce its size porportionally to everything else?
12:20:13	NeonPortal	Ort to small for that matter
12:20:44	raptor	ctrl+shift+x
12:20:49	raptor	see the editor help
12:23:26	NeonPortal	How do I reduce size though x.x
12:23:41	NeonPortal	Figured a dash would work but
12:23:44	sam686	you enter 0.5 for half size
12:25:53	NeonPortal	right, thanks
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12:33:12	NeonPortal	REpairs are always Nuetral right?
12:34:51	sam686	repair items like forcefield and turrents can be restricted to any team
12:35:03	sam686	neutral can be repaired by any team though
12:35:15	NeonPortal	So when I make repairs I have to use them under neutral
12:35:20	NeonPortal	Gotit.
12:35:48	sam686	if repairs is not neutral then only that team can repair it, basically
12:36:46	watusimoto	sam686: we have team-based repairs??
12:36:54	watusimoto	and good morning to all
12:37:08	sam686	i meant repairing forcefield and turrents
12:37:20	sam686	in a team game
12:37:20	watusimoto	oh, right
12:37:22	watusimoto	sorry
12:37:31	raptor	hi watusimoto - please update before making more changes, i had to rename a file
12:37:37	watusimoto	I read "repair" as an adjetive, not a verb
12:37:39	NeonPortal	Thanks for clearing that up for me watusimoto
12:37:51	watusimoto	raptor: ok
12:38:05	watusimoto	did my changes last night build for you?
12:38:11	raptor	negatory
12:38:19	watusimoto	oh boy
12:38:23	raptor	i already committed
12:38:27	raptor	they're all fixed now
12:38:30	watusimoto	sorry
12:38:39	raptor	wasn't hard :)
12:38:41	watusimoto	it built for me, from the cmake file
12:38:49	watusimoto	did I get a case error?
12:38:57	raptor	yes... but you don't have a case-se... yes
12:39:20	watusimoto	I originally called the file "Polywall.cpp" then later changed it to "PolyWall.cpp"
12:39:23	watusimoto	and .n
12:39:33	raptor	the cpp wasn't actually renamed
12:39:42	watusimoto	".h" I mean
12:39:47	raptor	you can see my changes - they were minor
12:40:42	watusimoto	what?!?
12:40:58	watusimoto	I am positive I renamed Polywall.cpp to PolyWall.cpp
12:41:09	raptor	the .h was
12:41:09	watusimoto	and I re-added it to the repo
12:41:14	watusimoto	I did both
12:41:22	watusimoto	argh
12:41:43	watusimoto	sorry
12:42:33	watusimoto	why did you need cmath in barrier.cpp?
12:42:46	raptor	abs() was ambiguous
12:42:53	raptor	didn't compile
12:42:54	watusimoto	There must be some vcc/g++ difference there
12:42:59	watusimoto	vc++
12:43:01	watusimoto	man
12:43:06	watusimoto	my typing is off to a bad start
12:43:20	raptor	i suspect it was included somewhere in a header on the old barrier.h
12:43:26	raptor	but wasn't when the split was done
12:43:39	sam686	windows version of turtoiseHG may not see the renamed file (especially if changing only upper/lowercase) unless you right click, turtoise menu then choose rename file
12:44:26	watusimoto	I un-added then re-added the files after the rename
12:44:46	watusimoto	I must have mucked something up... it was almost 2AM, and I no longer consider that my normal bedtime
12:44:57	raptor	hah
12:45:08	watusimoto	I've managed to dial it back to something like 12:30-1AM
12:45:20	raptor	that's the time of night where I barely have the brain power to tell myself i don't have the brainpower
12:45:31	watusimoto	I get up a little earlier, get a little more sleep, and feel better... but I also get less bitfighter done
12:46:08	watusimoto	When in Luxembourg, I'd be great until 1-1:30, sometimes until 2
12:46:15	watusimoto	I work well in the evenings
12:49:40	sam686	this small screenshots shows where to select to rename http://sam6.25u.com/upload/renameturtoisehg.png
12:50:15	raptor	huh... i randomly get crashes when hosting a game and pressing '/' to enter a command
12:51:29	raptor	http://pastie.org/pastes/9607802/text
12:51:55	raptor	0xffffffffffffffff can't be right
12:52:26	sam686	I found an editor crash pressing # (for me it is ctrl+3) button while dragging an item to the dock, then after releasing mouse button while on dock, pressing numbers and enter.
12:54:16	sam686	Zap::getDisplayItemCount (items=0xffffffffffffffff, itemCount=23807) itemcount doesn't look right either..
13:01:01	sam686	raptor, by the time I breakpoint at the same stack as yours, mine have items=0xcdcdcdcdcdcdcdcd itemCount=-842150451
13:01:43	raptor	haha OCD OCD OCD
13:01:49	raptor	microsoft humor
13:02:42	raptor	sounds like something wasn't initialized properly
13:02:55	sam686	That -842150451 number is CDCDCDCD in hex too
13:04:06	sam686	i think "CD" is deleted memory, and "CC" is just uninitalized, i think
13:09:15	NeonPortal	Hey guys what is going on with editor??? I have a line going straight and now that I have added polygons when I tried to stretch it it keeps trying to snap to a grid that isnt straight
13:10:15	sam686	hold down space while moving points"?
13:10:28	sam686	oops
13:10:48	sam686	i guess i was reading some really old chat here
13:11:02	sam686	or not
13:11:42	raptor	this is kind of neat and low-tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtKBzwKfP8E&feature=youtu.be
13:15:38	NeonPortal	Is there a way I can make things more precise to the grid?
13:17:43	NeonPortal	ah nvm
13:17:47	sam686	i don't know if theres a way, one reason for not being on grid is the resizing and rotation
13:18:17	sam686	don't worry much, it can save at almost any position, even if off grid
13:20:45	NeonPortal	Well holding space will suspend it
13:21:24	NeonPortal	But if your telling me that when resize everything it will snap it back onto the grid I wont worry about suspending it into where I exactly want it until I resize it to what I want.
13:22:13	NeonPortal	Although that doesn't seem to be an issue.
13:22:29	sam686	resizing rotating doesn't snap to grid, the only time it can snap to grid is if you move items or points.
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13:35:22	sam686	eventually I found a problem, the need to set variable to zero
13:35:29	koda	0xffffffffffffffff is totally right
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14:11:23	raptor	sam686: was that really the fix??
14:13:29	sam686	yes, uninitalized list of counters
14:13:37	raptor	it works!
14:13:39	raptor	thanks!
14:14:54	sam686	getDisplayItemCount(mCurrentRenderItems, mCurrentRenderCount); mCurrentRenderItems might as well stay as junk pointer, its the mCurrentRenderCount that need to be initalized to zero
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14:58:54	watusimoto	so sam686 and raptor each reported one weird crashing error. have both been fixed?
14:59:29	watusimoto	I wrote them down but don't want to spend time fixing them if they're already done :-)
15:00:27	raptor	sam686 fixed mine
15:01:05	raptor	i think his other one is probably difficult to fix... being in the editor
15:01:46	watusimoto	probably easy enough, but the steps to reproduce are lengthy
15:02:20	watusimoto	ok, I've croseed yours off my list, and retrieved it from the recycle bin
15:02:38	watusimoto	so I still have sam686's as outstanding
15:05:44	raptor	i should see if the tests compile...
15:07:30	watusimoto	they did, but I suspect the no longer do
15:07:38	watusimoto	they did a couple of weeks ago, that is
15:07:49	watusimoto	and they all passed, except one that isn't finished
15:08:12	watusimoto	mostly because we don't have good coverage for the stuff my refactor touched
15:09:33	watusimoto	sam686: your name in irc has a little "sonic boom" icon next to it. any idea what that means? i.e. could it mean that you have irc voice chat somehow set up?
15:10:08	watusimoto	(I understand this is a client-specific icon, but it does mean something is different about you)
15:14:54	sam686	what, its the "ChanServ set mode +v sam686", the v part meaning voice, such as when channel goes voice only that only voice and ops can chat..
15:15:16	watusimoto	irc can do voice??
15:15:26	raptor	yes
15:15:34	sam686	some channel is voice only, this one isn't
15:15:51	raptor	we could set up an official IRC meeting "Meet the Devs!" then require voice for people to talk
15:18:57	sam686	the editor undo causes barriers to become kindof invisible
15:19:36	sam686	polywall is unaffected and stays visible though..
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15:22:02	sam686	the drag into dock, press ctrl+#, then release mouse button, not limited to ctrl+c, also happens if you press enter (if turret or speedzone is selected to drag into dock)
15:24:52	sam686	i have trouble editing speedzone attributes, enter editor, select speedzone, and press enter
15:25:54	watusimoto	noted
15:28:31	sam686	enter editor, then press 9, team index out of range
15:29:47	sam686	enter editor menu, configure teams, then press +, got a Assert: Expected to have been added to a game by now! in ..\..\zap\Level.cpp line 477
15:34:42	sam686	loading some level takes a long time like minutes or even hours, where over 95% of the time is spent in mergePolys and clipper.
15:35:06	sam686	(in editor, hosting that level loads much faster)
15:35:48	sam686	EditorUserInterface::addToEditor uses onGeomChange which is kindof slow.. maybe too slow.
15:37:30	sam686	can't change gametype in editor, the same assert expected to have game by now
15:41:40	sam686	some of my levels, mostly all that uses "BarrierMakerS" have broken polywall... http://bitfighter.org/levels/levels/view/55
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16:38:43	raptor	this bash vulnerability has made it crazy here at work
16:39:23	watusimoto	lucky you!
16:39:52	raptor	lots of people asking for patches... who haven't bought maintenance
16:40:12	raptor	or who run old systems already out of support
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16:59:13	sam686	https://www.google.com/search?q=bash+vulnerability&tbs=qdr:w ("Past week")
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17:19:42	sam686	simply updating bash does help, like it did help on me. http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1409/140930_16-18-14.txt
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20:35:20	amgine123	hello
20:37:24	amgine123	anything new to test ?
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20:56:22	amgine123	whats is the bitfighter stats page
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