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| 03:04:38 | | BFLogBot Commit: 35503b1997 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Don't try to set the team of a new wall... it's kind of pointless! |
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| 15:56:06 | raptor | Little_Apple: hello |
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| 16:13:33 | watusimoto1 | hi all |
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| 16:19:31 | raptor | hi |
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| 17:57:03 | raptor | Little_Apple says we need a y/n screen when uploading to the DB from the editor |
| 18:13:10 | Little_Apple | did i say that? |
| 18:13:14 | Little_Apple | i know i thought it.. |
| 18:18:22 | Little_Apple | there should be one! |
| 18:36:01 | raptor | Little_Apple: question - when uploading a level, does the upload message ever go away? |
| 18:39:26 | Little_Apple | i think? |
| 18:39:33 | Little_Apple | like once its done? |
| 18:39:39 | raptor | yes |
| 18:39:48 | Little_Apple | i think it does |
| 18:39:56 | raptor | hmm... then i broke something |
| 18:40:50 | Little_Apple | yes it goes away |
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| 19:00:37 | | BFLogBot Commit: 4433222d20 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Add prompt before uploading to level database |
| 19:00:43 | raptor | Little_Apple: done! |
| 19:01:06 | Little_Apple | woo! |
| 19:20:54 | raptor | heading home |
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| 20:36:30 | Nothing_Much | Hi everyone |
| 20:36:44 | Raven67854 | Hello Nothing_Much |
| 20:36:49 | Raven67854 | At least we can talk here without him |
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| 20:37:21 | Nothing_Much | Raven67854: that eon guy? |
| 20:39:17 | Nothing_Much | well anyways, Raven67854 it would take man hours basically? |
| 20:39:29 | Raven67854 | Nothing_Much, duh |
| 20:39:39 | Nothing_Much | ohh |
| 20:39:41 | Nothing_Much | well darn |
| 20:40:08 | Raven67854 | Nothing_Much, things take time.. |
| 20:40:15 | Nothing_Much | yeah I know |
| 20:40:18 | Raven67854 | Bitfighter is cool anyway so just enjoy it as is. |
| 20:40:22 | Raven67854 | Or learn ES2 yourself and do it yourself |
| 20:40:37 | Nothing_Much | I wish I could, I need more discipline and need to be told what to do |
| 20:40:47 | Raven67854 | Quit your bitching and do it :P |
| 20:41:16 | Nothing_Much | alright lemme try |
| 20:41:24 | Raven67854 | Okay see you in a few months |
| 20:41:51 | Nothing_Much | hang on |
| 20:41:59 | Nothing_Much | http://www.learnopengles.com/ |
| 20:42:06 | Nothing_Much | is this the same as doing it on GNU/Linux? |
| 20:42:31 | Raven67854 | Sure you could do it on GNU/Linux |
| 20:42:54 | Raven67854 | Nothing_Much, Not the best place to learn it maybe but WebGL is ES2 |
| 20:43:00 | Raven67854 | a slightly malformed version but still ES2 |
| 20:43:28 | Nothing_Much | well, what about native ES2? |
| 20:44:12 | Raven67854 | Hm |
| 20:44:14 | Raven67854 | you could use |
| 20:44:20 | Raven67854 | Java/C/C++/C#/Python |
| 20:44:24 | Raven67854 | Go |
| 20:44:25 | Raven67854 | D |
| 20:44:30 | Raven67854 | HaXe |
| 20:44:37 | Raven67854 | Haskell |
| 20:53:21 | Nothing_Much | oh my head |
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| 21:34:42 | fordcars | Hi |
| 21:35:26 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: learn OpenGLES2, raptor really wants to get Bitfighter ported to OpenGL ES 2/ OpenGL2 |
| 21:35:30 | fordcars | :) |
| 21:38:48 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: honestly, I don't think I can do it, been trying for one day and I couldn't get myself back into it |
| 21:39:28 | Nothing_Much | I'm more of a talker/loudmouth, not really a programmer or coder |
| 21:40:29 | fordcars | Hah |
| 21:40:47 | fordcars | Coding is easy ;) |
| 21:40:52 | fordcars | OpenGL is only a library |
| 21:41:04 | fordcars | So, theoritcally, if you know how to code |
| 21:41:25 | fordcars | ALl you have to know is how to use OpenGL |
| 21:41:43 | Nothing_Much | Yeah I guess |
| 21:42:07 | fordcars | Seriously, if you want to code, you can start with a levelgen in bitfighter :) |
| 21:42:18 | fordcars | Or even better, javascript |
| 21:42:35 | fordcars | Create a new file called whatever.html on your desktop and you are in |
| 21:42:43 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 21:43:00 | fordcars | Then, code in it, double click it, it'll open in your web browser |
| 21:43:12 | fordcars | Javascript is a good place to start, a bit similar to C and Java |
| 21:43:43 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: what did you do today, in coding? |
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| 21:43:53 | Nothing_Much | uh |
| 21:44:07 | Raven67854 | I would be fine teaching you WebGL |
| 21:44:19 | Raven67854 | But you would have to know HTML5/Javascript first. But shouldn't take you that long to pick up |
| 21:44:27 | fordcars | WebGL is cool, like OpenGL ES 2 right? |
| 21:44:41 | Raven67854 | fordcars, It's basically ES2. It's missing a few things but meh |
| 21:44:54 | fordcars | I made a spinning cube once in WebGl |
| 21:44:57 | fordcars | :) |
| 21:45:02 | fordcars | The classic demo |
| 21:45:11 | Raven67854 | WebGL2 is getting ES3 compatability as well as ES3 compute shaders |
| 21:45:31 | fordcars | Fancy |
| 21:45:42 | fordcars | I have no idea, I suck at anything GL :P |
| 21:45:43 | Raven67854 | My only real issue with WebGL is minor and that's shaders |
| 21:46:07 | Raven67854 | Shaders were not well thought out ^_^ |
| 21:46:13 | fordcars | Why not? |
| 21:46:22 | Raven67854 | You do them in the HTML document =/ |
| 21:46:27 | fordcars | Haha |
| 21:46:35 | fordcars | You can easily make them dynamic in js |
| 21:46:38 | Raven67854 | I mean sure there's tons of ways to do them outside but it all points to you at some point shoving them back into the HTML doc |
| 21:46:46 | fordcars | document.createElement("script"); |
| 21:46:50 | Raven67854 | Yeah I said it was minor :P |
| 21:46:54 | Raven67854 | It's a really small annoyance |
| 21:46:54 | fordcars | :P |
| 21:47:00 | Raven67854 | But it just eats at me for some reason |
| 21:47:07 | Raven67854 | It's like |
| 21:47:10 | Nothing_Much | pet peeve |
| 21:47:12 | Raven67854 | Of all the things this is what you fucked up |
| 21:47:16 | fordcars | Haha |
| 21:47:28 | Raven67854 | Apparently that's going to be addressed in WebGL2! |
| 21:47:32 | Raven67854 | Which we should see soon actually |
| 21:47:34 | fordcars | Yey! |
| 21:47:42 | Raven67854 | Firefox now includes WebGL2 with the browser |
| 21:47:47 | fordcars | Oh cool |
| 21:47:54 | Raven67854 | but you have to turn it on and you have to create a WebGL2 canvas |
| 21:48:09 | fordcars | webgl2 context? |
| 21:48:10 | Raven67854 | Chrome does as well I think |
| 21:48:12 | Raven67854 | fordcars, yes |
| 21:48:22 | fordcars | Kkk |
| 21:48:28 | Raven67854 | I mean there's some other annoyances |
| 21:48:44 | Raven67854 | like browser related issues =). And storing assets etc. but all of that can be solved |
| 21:48:46 | Nothing_Much | chrome does a lot of things better than Fx |
| 21:48:53 | Raven67854 | Like? |
| 21:48:54 | fordcars | I think so |
| 21:48:55 | Nothing_Much | sadly one of those things is HTML5 video with 1080p |
| 21:49:01 | fordcars | But asm.js is way better in Firefox |
| 21:49:37 | fordcars | I think Javascript is faster in Firefox |
| 21:49:45 | Raven67854 | Nothing_Much, If it's a vp video yes it does |
| 21:50:11 | Raven67854 | Considering they write the VP codec one would hope it'd work better plus Chrome has some propertary stuff up in there |
| 21:50:27 | Raven67854 | Firefox is open source! Everybody went to chrome then bitched when Firefox started doing stuff that wasn't FOSS |
| 21:50:32 | | Raven67854 mind boggled |
| 21:50:44 | Nothing_Much | Raven67854: yeah, people are really really stupid |
| 21:50:46 | fordcars | Hah |
| 21:50:46 | Raven67854 | fordcars, they alternate between speed |
| 21:50:55 | Raven67854 | One release Chrome is faster then firefox |
| 21:51:01 | Raven67854 | It's great they're neck and neck like that =) |
| 21:51:07 | Raven67854 | asm.js is sooo much faster in Firefox <3 |
| 21:51:14 | fordcars | Haha, so I've heard :P |
| 21:51:19 | fordcars | A bunch of optimizations |
| 21:51:25 | Raven67854 | yeah well they write asm.js |
| 21:51:34 | Raven67854 | and all the browsers always do their own thing which hurts everybody |
| 21:51:41 | fordcars | Haha |
| 21:51:54 | Raven67854 | Firefox on Linux is not as nice as Firefox on Windows though |
| 21:52:05 | Raven67854 | HTML5 Canvas/Video is much slower as is WebGL |
| 21:52:14 | fordcars | Maybe |
| 21:52:17 | Raven67854 | No it is |
| 21:52:21 | fordcars | :P |
| 21:52:32 | fordcars | I don't know, but from my experiences you are right |
| 21:52:39 | fordcars | I think it has to do with drivers |
| 21:52:39 | Raven67854 | Hell if you go to firefox's bug tracker |
| 21:52:42 | Raven67854 | No |
| 21:52:45 | Raven67854 | It's firefox =) |
| 21:52:48 | fordcars | Lol |
| 21:53:05 | Raven67854 | There's a few bug reports on the firefox bug tracker with many many reply's |
| 21:53:10 | Raven67854 | It's marked as "soon" |
| 21:53:19 | Raven67854 | They will someday get around to hardware accelerating firefox |
| 21:53:21 | Raven67854 | Eventually |
| 21:53:30 | fordcars | Wow |
| 21:53:43 | Raven67854 | Yeah it really sucks that they do that |
| 21:54:26 | Raven67854 | But they things improve eventually |
| 21:54:29 | Raven67854 | hey* |
| 21:54:47 | fordcars | Yepp |
| 21:54:52 | Raven67854 | It's also not that bad. It's just not as nice as it could be |
| 21:55:18 | fordcars | That's why I use Lynx |
| 21:55:49 | fordcars | :P |
| 21:56:03 | Raven67854 | http://www.babylonjs.com/ <= try the train demo |
| 21:58:19 | fordcars | Haha nice |
| 21:58:58 | fordcars | Is babylon better than three.js? |
| 21:59:06 | Raven67854 | Uhh |
| 21:59:11 | Raven67854 | No idea |
| 21:59:14 | Raven67854 | Probably not |
| 21:59:27 | Raven67854 | but maybe.. I don't really know =) |
| 21:59:33 | fordcars | Haha ok |
| 21:59:48 | Raven67854 | http://hellorun.helloenjoy.com/ <= love that |
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| 22:01:05 | fordcars | I have played that game too many times :P |
| 22:01:08 | fordcars | That and HexGl |
| 22:01:15 | fordcars | If you heard of it |
| 22:01:32 | Raven67854 | ugh |
| 22:01:37 | Raven67854 | making me want to go code with WebGL now |
| 22:02:29 | fordcars | Haha go ahead |
| 22:03:04 | Raven67854 | http://timeinvariant.github.io/gorescript/play/ |
| 22:05:37 | fordcars | Oh I've played this before :P |
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