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| 00:21:19 | amgine123 | raptor is bf stats down |
| 00:25:38 | raptor | not sure |
| 00:25:47 | raptor | the web pages have been broken for a while, it hink |
| 00:25:50 | raptor | *i think |
| 00:31:57 | amgine123 | I cannot acess t stats page |
| 00:32:01 | amgine123 | * the |
| 00:34:13 | fordcars | !bugs |
| 00:34:13 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug: http://tinyurl.com/bfnewbug -- To view all bugs: http://tinyurl.com/bfbugs |
| 00:37:06 | fordcars | raptor: /rename works, I just can't type right |
| 00:37:08 | fordcars | :P |
| 00:37:49 | raptor | ok phoew |
| 00:37:55 | raptor | but something else is still brok? |
| 00:38:04 | raptor | amgine123: stats pages are broke, i think |
| 00:38:22 | amgine123 | ok fix them ! |
| 00:39:52 | fordcars | raptor: yeah, well a few minor things |
| 00:40:18 | raptor | ok, thanks |
| 00:40:26 | raptor | amgine123: some day we will! |
| 00:42:50 | FoOtloOse | psst |
| 00:42:52 | FoOtloOse | fordy |
| 00:43:15 | FoOtloOse | why cant i just like |
| 00:43:25 | FoOtloOse | make it stay inside the coords i say |
| 00:43:35 | FoOtloOse | whenever i put coords in it kinda breaks |
| 00:44:07 | fordcars | FoOtloOse: uh |
| 00:44:17 | fordcars | I dunno it should work |
| 00:44:25 | FoOtloOse | i can just like |
| 00:44:27 | fordcars | Maybe you have enough [[]][][][ and ,,,,,, between etc |
| 00:44:31 | FoOtloOse | /showcoords |
| 00:44:40 | FoOtloOse | and get coords from one corner |
| 00:44:46 | fordcars | FoOtloOse: nvm |
| 00:44:46 | FoOtloOse | to the other and put those in |
| 00:44:48 | FoOtloOse | right? |
| 00:44:51 | FoOtloOse | :D |
| 00:44:52 | fordcars | Right |
| 00:45:00 | FoOtloOse | do i have to put both numbers in? |
| 00:45:07 | fordcars | Well yeah, minXCoord is the upper left X coord |
| 00:45:13 | fordcars | Well yeah, minYCoord is the upper left Y coord |
| 00:45:25 | fordcars | Well yeah, maxXCoord is the bottom rightX coord |
| 00:45:34 | fordcars | Well yeah, maxYCoord is the bottom right Y coord |
| 00:45:37 | fordcars | Well yeah |
| 00:45:38 | FoOtloOse | so i have to get all four coords |
| 00:45:40 | FoOtloOse | okay! |
| 00:45:42 | fordcars | Yep |
| 00:50:01 | fordcars | Okay raptor, the only bug was that chat buffer thing https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=479&start=100 |
| 00:50:28 | fordcars | Very minor might not even be a bug |
| 00:50:40 | raptor | ok, thanks! |
| 00:50:46 | raptor | now i'm really haeding to bed... |
| 00:50:48 | raptor | night! |
| 00:50:51 | fordcars | Night! |
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| 00:50:59 | FoOtloOse | night |
| 00:51:15 | fordcars | Meh, I think I'll go to bed soon |
| 00:51:22 | fordcars | Tag will have to wait for tomorrow |
| 00:51:44 | fordcars | Night! |
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| 00:52:21 | FoOtloOse | i should go too! |
| 00:52:22 | FoOtloOse | adios |
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| 00:55:47 | amgine123 | gtg ciao |
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| 10:40:31 | fordcars | !bug |
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| 17:52:23 | fordcars | Hey raptor,, do you know what '\p' means? |
| 17:52:50 | fordcars | And hi |
| 17:54:38 | fordcars | Nvm it's good |
| 17:57:17 | raptor | hi |
| 17:57:22 | raptor | \p, nop |
| 17:57:24 | raptor | nope |
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| 18:06:42 | fordcars | Okokok |
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| 20:44:09 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 20:44:14 | raptor | HELLO |
| 20:44:15 | raptor | oops |
| 20:44:18 | raptor | hello |
| 20:44:52 | Watusimoto | I started an electronics project with my son. First time I've ever soldered a component to a circuit board |
| 20:45:15 | Watusimoto | I burned myself kind of badly, but what we've done so far looks good |
| 20:45:16 | raptor | you learn to hate solder real fast... until you get the skill |
| 20:45:21 | fordcars | Haha |
| 20:45:39 | Watusimoto | we're using pb free solder, which is a tad tricker than pb solder |
| 20:45:54 | Watusimoto | everything gets hotter, joints don't look as pretty |
| 20:46:19 | fordcars | How old is your son? |
| 20:46:20 | Watusimoto | solder is waaay more expensive |
| 20:46:23 | Watusimoto | he's 12 |
| 20:46:28 | fordcars | Oh cool |
| 20:46:29 | raptor | fingerprints become polished... |
| 20:46:44 | Watusimoto | I can steal cars now without getting caught |
| 20:46:57 | raptor | haha |
| 20:47:39 | Watusimoto | I soldered a diode in backwards |
| 20:47:42 | Watusimoto | oops |
| 20:47:51 | Watusimoto | at least I noticed it! |
| 20:48:03 | raptor | what was the project? |
| 20:48:05 | Watusimoto | but that was a pain to fix |
| 20:48:31 | Watusimoto | I figured we'd start at the beginning |
| 20:48:31 | Watusimoto | http://www.adafruit.com/product/184 |
| 20:48:42 | Watusimoto | make a power supply for the breadboard I bought |
| 20:49:32 | raptor | oooo.. that one looks nice |
| 20:49:43 | Watusimoto | about the right level of complexity |
| 20:49:51 | Watusimoto | but it doesn;t do anything "fun" |
| 20:50:31 | Watusimoto | I did get some extra leds and stuff so we can try out the breadboard once it's all hooked up |
| 20:50:44 | Watusimoto | and I got a timer chip so we can make the leds blink |
| 20:50:53 | fordcars | Oooo |
| 20:51:04 | Watusimoto | easy stuff, but you have to begin somewhere |
| 20:51:11 | fordcars | kaen is into that stuff I believe |
| 20:51:20 | fordcars | With microcontrollers and all |
| 20:51:24 | Watusimoto | the only problem is one of the ics I bought was surface mount |
| 20:51:43 | Watusimoto | so I had to get another... those surface mount things are tiny! |
| 20:51:47 | raptor | i'm about to design my first CPU in my EE class - but it'll be all in a hardware description language |
| 20:52:10 | raptor | and digitally simulated |
| 20:52:16 | Watusimoto | I knew I had a problem when I saw the package -- it was in a tube smaller than what I expected the compoennt itself to be |
| 20:52:18 | fordcars | Whoa sweet |
| 20:52:46 | raptor | oh man... you'd need a needleworker's hands |
| 20:52:49 | Watusimoto | yeah, that's the thing... in "real life" you'd mostly just write software to do all these things |
| 20:53:09 | fordcars | Watusimoto: that is what microcontrollers are for! |
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| 20:53:17 | Watusimoto | I bought another "normal" one, and will toss the surface mount one |
| 20:53:23 | Watusimoto | yes! |
| 20:53:47 | Watusimoto | the compoenets are cheap, but the shipping is murder if you are only buying one or two items |
| 20:53:58 | fordcars | Yep been there |
| 20:54:05 | Watusimoto | 22 cents for the ic, $6 to get it to your house |
| 20:54:24 | Watusimoto | well, I won't make that mistake again |
| 20:55:00 | Watusimoto | but overall, these components are really cheap |
| 20:56:03 | fordcars | You should compile Bitfighter for your power supply btw |
| 20:56:26 | Watusimoto | raptor already wrote the cmake target, I think |
| 20:56:35 | Watusimoto | can't wait to test it! |
| 20:56:39 | raptor | ha |
| 20:56:45 | fordcars | Nice! |
| 20:56:58 | raptor | almost done with the NSIS one, though.. |
| 20:57:17 | fordcars | Windows Installers |
| 21:02:10 | raptor | Watusimoto: do you think it's been long enough that we can discard our user preference migration code in the NSIS installer? |
| 21:02:29 | Watusimoto | migration from what? |
| 21:02:52 | raptor | we standardize the user preference directories across platforms: %appdata% on windows |
| 21:03:03 | raptor | before we just put it My Documents or something like that |
| 21:03:19 | Watusimoto | yeah, sure |
| 21:03:22 | Watusimoto | kill it |
| 21:03:25 | raptor | great! |
| 21:07:30 | Watusimoto | if someone tries to uprade after not playing for a year, they'll lose their settings |
| 21:08:35 | raptor | more like two years... |
| 21:09:20 | raptor | 018 was the change - and that was released Dec 5, 2012 |
| 21:10:14 | Watusimoto | they'll live |
| 21:10:27 | Watusimoto | they can recover their settings by updrading to 019 before 020 |
| 21:13:44 | raptor | that's what I figure |
| 21:14:00 | raptor | oh, how goes the merge? |
| 21:19:56 | Watusimoto | not ready yet |
| 21:20:14 | Watusimoto | I want to get the editor working again first :-) |
| 21:23:20 | raptor | i noticed an odd rendering issue when exporting levels to SVG in your new editor: |
| 21:23:42 | raptor | polywall and barriers have different linewidths for their outlines |
| 21:24:02 | raptor | polywall was thinner, i'm guessing 1px instead of 2px |
| 21:24:07 | Watusimoto | huh |
| 21:24:11 | Watusimoto | interesting |
| 21:24:35 | raptor | 019c was the same width, though |
| 21:25:10 | fordcars | !bugs |
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| 21:29:06 | Watusimoto | 019c was the same width as you're seeing now, or the same as barriers? |
| 21:29:18 | raptor | they matched in 019c, this was a new issue in 020 |
| 21:29:35 | raptor | it can be seen in the commander's map sometimes, too, with brighter lines on the barriers |
| 21:33:49 | Watusimoto | I'll take a look when things are more stable |
| 21:34:14 | Watusimoto | ok, got to go. I'll be back on later, but not for a few hours. |
| 21:34:19 | raptor | ok, later! |
| 21:34:29 | Watusimoto | by everyone! |
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| 23:03:01 | raptor | almost done! |
| 23:08:53 | Barrin6 | why is it hg clone? Not git clone? |
| 23:10:39 | Barrin6 | ohh the version control is mercurial |
| 23:11:55 | raptor | hi Barrin6 |
| 23:11:59 | raptor | yes mercurial |
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| 23:21:05 | Barrin6 | need to get brew working again before I can install mercurial |
| 23:21:25 | raptor | huh? |
| 23:21:33 | raptor | oh... OSX user? |
| 23:21:43 | Barrin6 | yea |
| 23:22:10 | raptor | we use cmake - you can just install the cmake and mercurial packages from their respective websites |
| 23:22:27 | raptor | so far compiling seems to work if xcode is installed |
| 23:22:37 | Barrin6 | I could switch over to windows instead |
| 23:22:40 | raptor | although... OSX is our least maintained platform |
| 23:22:49 | raptor | so yeah.. i'd do linux or windows, if possible |
| 23:23:11 | Barrin6 | I have to use visual studio anyways for my next c++ class anyways |
| 23:25:31 | raptor | are you thinking of contributing to the bitfighter project? |
| 23:29:19 | Barrin6 | yea |
| 23:29:35 | Barrin6 | I am still pretty newbie though |
| 23:31:27 | raptor | ok - the main developers on the project are Watusimoto, sam686, and myself right now. So if you have questions, feel free to ask. |
| 23:32:02 | raptor | there are also some developer-hardy experienced players around, like fordcars |
| 23:32:51 | fordcars | Hah! |
| 23:33:09 | raptor | :) |
| 23:33:18 | raptor | who are good at breaking things for us... |
| 23:34:36 | fordcars | ship |
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| 23:35:15 | raptor | did you say that doing that did actually kick the bots? |
| 23:35:27 | fordcars | I think it only kicked s_bots |
| 23:35:33 | fordcars | I think they were crashing |
| 23:35:48 | raptor | huh |
| 23:36:07 | raptor | oh, i forgot, i probably have to revert s_bot again for 019d... |
| 23:36:45 | fordcars | Oh, 019d will be released without Barnsied and Meanie? |
| 23:37:32 | raptor | i think so... because they don't really operate much different than s_bot does |
| 23:37:45 | raptor | and the attributes you can change aren't that great |
| 23:37:53 | raptor | although barnside is fun to watch... |
| 23:38:47 | fordcars | Haha yes |
| 23:44:22 | Barrin6 | which IDE do you guys use? |
| 23:44:35 | raptor | all of them |
| 23:44:49 | raptor | but the other 2 devs use visual studio |
| 23:44:55 | raptor | 2008 and 2013, i think |
| 23:45:12 | raptor | I just hop around a lot because I'm always working on platform issues |
| 23:48:15 | raptor | but mostly i've adapted eclipse-cpp on linux |
| 23:49:59 | raptor | IT WORKED |
| 23:51:04 | Barrin6 | I would love to be working in ubuntu. But currently I have windows desktop and macbook pro |
| 23:51:12 | Barrin6 | I could virtualbox it though... |
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| 23:56:29 | fordcars | Barrin6, you can Dual-boot too |
| 23:56:32 | fordcars | Oh |