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| 00:03:48 | raptor | this is great!: https://github.com/dotnetchris/Git-Hg-Rosetta-Stone/wiki#Rosetta_Stone |
| 00:04:03 | raptor | it also shows a little of the insanity behind git |
| 00:07:49 | raptor | kaen: I checked out the bitfighter-debian git project, but every time i attempt to build with 'git-buildpackage --git-pbuilder' i get this error: gbp:error: upstream/019d is not a valid treeish |
| 00:07:58 | raptor | have you seen that before? |
| 00:27:06 | kaen | oh, I need to commit and push raptor |
| 00:27:13 | kaen | you might as well rm that directory |
| 00:27:19 | raptor | ok |
| 00:27:21 | kaen | I have to clobber the one on github |
| 00:27:24 | raptor | ok |
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| 00:27:35 | raptor | i've been going through the official git-buildpackage doc |
| 00:32:18 | kaen | ok, all set raptor |
| 00:32:27 | raptor | oh goodie! |
| 00:33:07 | raptor | thanks |
| 00:34:56 | raptor | gbp:error: upstream/019d+dfsg is not a valid treeish |
| 00:35:06 | kaen | .-. |
| 00:35:08 | raptor | is an additional tag required? |
| 00:35:47 | kaen | try |
| 00:36:10 | kaen | git fetch upstream |
| 00:36:15 | kaen | actually I have no idea what I'm doing |
| 00:36:23 | kaen | maybe I need to push the tag |
| 00:36:28 | kaen | it's here on my end |
| 00:37:02 | kaen | try again raptor |
| 00:37:14 | raptor | ok |
| 00:37:28 | raptor | we have liftoff! |
| 00:37:43 | kaen | \o/ |
| 00:38:02 | kaen | I tried to fix the norelro warning, but I didn't succeed |
| 00:38:08 | raptor | if you don't mind - i may make some adjustments... |
| 00:38:14 | kaen | by all means |
| 00:38:42 | kaen | it's getting the compiler define needed by that warning, but not the ldflags |
| 00:39:00 | raptor | did you need to use libboost1.54-dev |
| 00:39:03 | kaen | I think we might need to inject LD_FLAGS to the CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS in cmake/Platform/Linux |
| 00:39:04 | raptor | can it be libboost-dev |
| 00:39:06 | raptor | ? |
| 00:39:25 | kaen | hmm, can't remember |
| 00:39:38 | raptor | i'll make that change and see what happens |
| 00:39:40 | kaen | ok |
| 00:39:48 | raptor | and i'll play with cmake, etc.. |
| 00:39:58 | kaen | cool :) |
| 00:43:05 | raptor | how did you push the tag? |
| 01:11:19 | kaen | git push --tags |
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| 08:29:40 | koda | hey hye hey |
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| 09:20:49 | raptor | good morning! |
| 09:21:33 | koda | raptor: hello! |
| 09:21:44 | koda | long tine |
| 09:21:46 | raptor | koda! |
| 09:21:48 | raptor | KODA |
| 09:21:56 | raptor | long time! |
| 09:22:34 | raptor | welcome back! |
| 09:26:22 | koda | thank you :) |
| 09:26:28 | koda | how is it going |
| 09:27:23 | raptor | doing good - we had a minor release over christmas... just like hedgewars! (although yours is not so minor) |
| 09:27:56 | raptor | i even did the work to have cmake fully prepare the project on OSX, so we don't have to maintain that old xcode project |
| 09:28:06 | koda | hurrah |
| 09:28:26 | raptor | and against everyone's better judgement... i kept 10.4 ppc compatibility |
| 09:31:46 | koda | wow |
| 09:32:05 | raptor | also i noticed hedgewars is for 10.8+ now? was there an issue with 10.6 compat? |
| 09:33:08 | koda | yes i updated my system and got too lazy :P |
| 09:35:53 | raptor | koda: did someone on your hedgewars team get your game into debian? we're attempting that now, and it's quite the chore... |
| 09:38:11 | koda | yes we have a nice guy doing all the builds |
| 09:38:16 | koda | it’s veeeery long |
| 09:39:32 | raptor | it's quite the long process... and we're trying to be super careful not to step on anyone's toes |
| 09:40:58 | koda | maybe our contact can help |
| 09:41:07 | koda | ofc in exchange of several osx build improvements |
| 09:41:07 | koda | :P |
| 09:41:28 | raptor | heh - i could probably manage that... |
| 09:41:42 | koda | come to the dark side |
| 09:41:45 | koda | i mean #hedgewars |
| 09:42:01 | raptor | what improvements did you have in mind? i'm not sure i could get ppc working for hedgewars... |
| 09:42:54 | koda | nah too complex with three different compilers |
| 09:43:23 | raptor | BUILD_ENGINE_C <-- what is this?? |
| 09:43:59 | raptor | is hedgewars being rewritten in C instead of fpc/haskell? |
| 09:44:38 | koda | there is a converter that takes pascal files and writes them in c |
| 09:45:12 | raptor | really?? that's nuts! |
| 09:46:20 | | koda nods |
| 09:46:34 | koda | and then another converter takes them and writes them to js |
| 09:47:23 | raptor | ah yes - i've attempted to use emscripten for bitfighter, but there's still a few issues to work through |
| 09:47:37 | raptor | but i hear it will have SDL2 support soon, which will help |
| 09:51:36 | koda | yep a lot of games have been ported now |
| 09:54:41 | raptor | koda: do you have current OSX build instructions somewhere (for hedgewars)? |
| 09:55:17 | koda | yup |
| 09:55:18 | koda | https://code.google.com/p/hedgewars/wiki/BuildingOnMac |
| 09:55:41 | raptor | have you guys begun proting to SDL2? |
| 09:55:44 | raptor | *porting |
| 09:55:48 | raptor | (and thanks!) |
| 09:55:59 | koda | yes and no |
| 09:56:08 | koda | i kinda lost track of what’s going on |
| 09:56:26 | raptor | ah ok... |
| 09:56:31 | raptor | i can understand that |
| 10:11:25 | raptor | checking out hedgewars source is no small ordeal... |
| 10:13:57 | koda | :> |
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| 12:26:01 | raptor | fixed hardening! |
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| 12:45:46 | raptor | dit it work?? |
| 12:46:26 | raptor | kaen: it works!: https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter-debian/commit/94cbc1c39bf3e6463c5623a35be7f7b510ffa8bd |
| 12:46:32 | raptor | hardening is fixed |
| 12:46:36 | kaen | \o/ |
| 12:46:42 | kaen | nice work! |
| 12:46:58 | kaen | ahaha |
| 12:46:59 | kaen | quotes |
| 12:47:02 | raptor | haha, yeah |
| 12:47:03 | kaen | who would have thought |
| 12:47:16 | raptor | i was definitely in the trial-and-error state when i found that |
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| 12:48:21 | kaen | oh, I added a watch file that points at bitfighter.org/files |
| 12:48:32 | kaen | we should start putting our repacked +dfsg tarballs there |
| 12:52:43 | koda | so where is our favourite watusimoto |
| 12:53:34 | raptor | kaen: i pushed some more debian changes: https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter-debian/commit/56afef0c8b75b17cb2b0dfb70d0ff86ca53843b4 |
| 12:53:44 | raptor | should I build and upload; or, do you want to do it later? |
| 12:53:56 | raptor | if i do the upload, i'll need you to delete your package :-/ |
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| 12:56:58 | kaen | so weird that we can't have multiple maintainers |
| 12:57:14 | kaen | I'll build & upload |
| 12:59:02 | kaen | uhoh |
| 12:59:10 | kaen | I have an outgoing commit for upstream somehow |
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| 13:00:24 | kaen | blew away my local copy and cloned fresh, working now |
| 13:08:57 | kaen | build worked |
| 13:09:08 | kaen | I actually can't sign it because you're the last entry in the changelog |
| 13:09:11 | raptor | i found out you can do 'dch' to edit the changelog |
| 13:09:19 | kaen | ah nice |
| 13:09:32 | raptor | also... i got ccache working with pbuilder - did you ever get that? |
| 13:09:38 | kaen | I did not |
| 13:09:47 | raptor | it speeds up builds a ton |
| 13:09:50 | kaen | a nice |
| 13:09:52 | kaen | ah* |
| 13:10:00 | raptor | this is what i did: |
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| 13:10:14 | kaen | I have to get to some work stuff, I'll delete so you can upload |
| 13:10:29 | raptor | okey doke |
| 13:10:32 | raptor | thanks! |
| 13:10:34 | kaen | all set |
| 13:10:37 | kaen | no sweat |
| 13:11:17 | raptor | i'll tell you later about ccache if you're interested (after your work). thanks for pausing to help, briefly |
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| 21:31:20 | raptor | back to debian... |
| 21:33:07 | Nothing_Much | woohoo! |
| 21:33:28 | Nothing_Much | raptor: I thought you didn't like github? o.o |
| 21:34:29 | raptor | i like github... i don't like git as much as hg |
| 21:34:43 | raptor | if only github had used hg (mercurial) |
| 21:34:44 | raptor | :) |
| 21:35:01 | Nothing_Much | eeeyeah.. I think Google's even giving up on Mercurial |
| 21:35:13 | Nothing_Much | they developed hg, right? |
| 21:35:28 | raptor | no they didn't, but they didn't give it up either |
| 21:35:39 | raptor | they chose it first because it had certain strengths at the tim |
| 21:35:41 | raptor | *time |
| 21:35:53 | Nothing_Much | well, they've migrated a couple of projects from hg to git |
| 21:35:57 | raptor | i'm still saddened that git is winning out |
| 21:36:09 | raptor | yeah... |
| 21:36:12 | raptor | saddened |
| 21:36:16 | Nothing_Much | what's exactly wrong with git compared to hg though? |
| 21:36:21 | Nothing_Much | they do the same thing, mostly |
| 21:36:27 | Nothing_Much | what's like, the killer feature of hg? |
| 21:36:39 | raptor | hg has a lower learning curve |
| 21:36:59 | raptor | they pretty much have all the same features |
| 21:37:15 | raptor | but i would consider hg 'elegant' |
| 21:37:20 | Nothing_Much | ahh |
| 21:37:48 | raptor | everything about hg is easier to understand, in my opinion |
| 21:38:06 | raptor | also git usually requires about 1.5x the commands of hg |
| 21:38:10 | Nothing_Much | probably, so.. does that mean the hg bitfighter repository will be eol'd soon? |
| 21:38:14 | Nothing_Much | oh my |
| 21:38:32 | raptor | but alas, there wasn't the religious furor behind hg as there was behind git |
| 21:38:47 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 21:38:52 | Nothing_Much | Linus is more of a Tyrant |
| 21:39:18 | Nothing_Much | it's pretty odd, considering GNU/Linux is about doing your own things |
| 21:39:19 | raptor | oh? |
| 21:39:34 | Nothing_Much | dude, have you seen his quotes on lkms? |
| 21:39:37 | raptor | i don't know much about Linus... other than that he is famous |
| 21:40:13 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 21:40:15 | Nothing_Much | lkml* |
| 21:40:27 | raptor | ahhh linux kernel mailing list |
| 21:40:28 | Nothing_Much | http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/linus_torvalds.html |
| 21:40:31 | Nothing_Much | this dude |
| 21:40:39 | Nothing_Much | he's pretty blunt |
| 21:40:45 | Nothing_Much | and incredibly harsh |
| 21:41:05 | Nothing_Much | http://www.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/07/what-linus-torvalds-thinks-abo.html |
| 21:41:17 | Nothing_Much | granted his bluntness can be slightly entertaining |
| 21:43:16 | Nothing_Much | but yeah |
| 21:43:21 | Nothing_Much | don't let your kids see his quoest |
| 21:43:24 | Nothing_Much | quotes* |
| 21:50:46 | Nothing_Much | raptor: you alright dude? |
| 21:51:29 | raptor | hi yes |
| 21:51:32 | raptor | why, what happened? |
| 21:51:35 | raptor | did i fall asleep? |
| 21:51:57 | Nothing_Much | thought you were overlooking Linus's stuff or if you're coding then carry on! |
| 21:52:30 | raptor | i'm doing lots at once! some work project... working on the debian build... reading linus quotes |
| 21:52:38 | Nothing_Much | ahh |
| 21:52:49 | Nothing_Much | oh, but the Debian build was made and on the website, no? |
| 21:53:06 | raptor | yes, but this is the *official* build |
| 21:53:12 | raptor | we're hoping to make it official :) |
| 21:53:25 | Nothing_Much | ohh! sweetness! will it be in Jessie or the next one soon? |
| 21:54:06 | raptor | maybe |
| 21:54:22 | raptor | debian seems to move at glacial speeds |
| 21:54:29 | Nothing_Much | yes they do |
| 21:54:42 | Nothing_Much | they're notorious for being "stable" |
| 21:55:31 | Nothing_Much | well.. |
| 21:55:36 | Nothing_Much | they are stable |
| 21:55:39 | Nothing_Much | the debian stable releases |
| 21:55:49 | Nothing_Much | they just take a long time for security patches |
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| 22:12:40 | raptor | i just got an automated phone call... which was controlled by a computer with real voice recordings that keyed off of certain phrases you said |
| 22:13:19 | raptor | i thought it was a real person until the 3rd response was slightly odd compared to what I said |
| 22:13:34 | raptor | so it didn't pass the turing test |
| 22:20:31 | Nothing_Much | WAIT WHAT? |
| 22:20:36 | Nothing_Much | *capt |
| 22:20:41 | Nothing_Much | **capt |
| 22:20:44 | Nothing_Much | ***CAPS |
| 22:20:46 | Nothing_Much | *caps |
| 22:20:49 | Nothing_Much | sorry |
| 22:27:18 | raptor | moment of truth... |
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| 22:34:47 | kaen | two outta three ain't bad |
| 22:35:02 | kaen | better than elizabot :P |
| 22:45:37 | raptor | kaen: tada!: https://mentors.debian.net/package/bitfighter |
| 22:46:06 | kaen | dude!! |
| 22:46:09 | kaen | DUDE! |
| 22:46:32 | raptor | phoew... that was somewhat of a slog... |
| 22:46:32 | kaen | excellent work! |
| 22:46:35 | raptor | now i have to reopen that bug... |
| 22:46:38 | kaen | once again, your heroic efforts will be immortalized in history |
| 22:47:52 | raptor | i'm standing on the shoulders of greats! :) |
| 22:47:52 | kaen | :) |
| 22:47:52 | kaen | lol |
| 22:47:52 | kaen | so uh |
| 22:47:52 | kaen | I guess it's time to check that "Needs a sponsor" box :) |
| 22:47:52 | raptor | just did :) |
| 22:47:52 | raptor | now i get to interface with the mail system... |
| 22:49:17 | kaen | wee |
| 22:51:47 | raptor | that watch file was somewhat annoying... |
| 22:54:23 | kaen | it looked so simple, just a two line example :< |
| 22:56:19 | kaen | ahh |
| 22:56:21 | kaen | just read it |
| 22:56:30 | kaen | no idea how long it would have taken me to figure that out |
| 22:57:05 | raptor | i chose the trial and error path... |
| 22:57:14 | kaen | heh |
| 22:57:29 | raptor | with ccache set-up i could afford to waste time building over and over :) |
| 22:58:20 | kaen | ITP: bitfighter -- A fast-paced team-based multi-player space combat game |
| 22:58:21 | kaen | Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:03:02 UTC |
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| 22:58:54 | raptor | where is that? |
| 22:59:34 | kaen | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705303 |
| 22:59:45 | kaen | it's the bug we're fixing :) |
| 23:00:28 | raptor | oh wow, that's been almost 2 years! |
| 23:00:28 | kaen | debian/changelog: * Initial release (Closes: #705303) |
| 23:00:33 | kaen | I know! |
| 23:00:42 | raptor | i will CC that bug with my RFS bug |
| 23:01:06 | raptor | using that special e-mail header they told me to use: X-Debbugs-CC |
| 23:01:15 | raptor | i got a slap on the write for using normal CC |
| 23:01:18 | kaen | so intuitive and user friendly! |
| 23:02:45 | kaen | Nothing_Much, good news ^ |
| 23:04:06 | kaen | I guess I shouldn't over-hype it |
| 23:04:12 | kaen | still have to go into the lion's den |
| 23:04:26 | raptor | well, it's one further milestone... |
| 23:04:33 | kaen | absolutely |
| 23:04:59 | kaen | can I tell you actually got like a rush of adrenaline when I saw that green field in the lintian section? |
| 23:05:01 | raptor | i have to reopen the RFS bug, because it was closed by someone who saw that the package was deleted earlier today |
| 23:05:08 | kaen | I stood up, and literally did this: \o/ |
| 23:05:14 | raptor | haha! |
| 23:05:35 | raptor | it's because it required a lot of blood, sweat, and tears from the both of us |
| 23:05:44 | kaen | it's true |
| 23:08:58 | raptor | ok step 1: reopen the bug |
| 23:11:13 | raptor | i wonder if their cron runs on the quarter-hour |
| 23:13:51 | raptor | step 1 complete |
| 23:14:04 | raptor | step 2: send out an e-mail expecting a wrist slap |
| 23:16:11 | raptor | oh no... i accidentally sent this e-mail to control |
| 23:16:16 | raptor | eek |
| 23:35:43 | raptor | ok, now the waiting game |
| 23:43:23 | kaen | adventures in debian packaging |
| 23:46:55 | kaen | raptor, did you see this gem of a regex in #debian-mentors? uversionmangle=s/(\d)[_\.\-\+]?((RC|rc|pre|dev|beta|alpha)\d*)$/$1~$2 |
| 23:47:11 | raptor | what on earth |
| 23:47:30 | raptor | haha... trying *really* hard to fit to random upstream package names |
| 23:47:48 | kaen | I'm impressed |
| 23:47:54 | raptor | just to satisfy lintian |
| 23:48:10 | kaen | of course it just broke and now he gets to fix it |
| 23:48:16 | raptor | hahaha |
| 23:49:32 | raptor | oh man... i'm trying to figure out how he can fix it... |
| 23:49:49 | raptor | i'm not sure he can do it via regex because 'R' ascii code comes before 'p' |
| 23:54:55 | kaen | I would just throw myself at their feet |
| 23:55:01 | kaen | to adopt a sane versioning scheme |
| 23:55:08 | raptor | haha, yeah |