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21:52:53BFDiscordBridge<raptor> watusimoto made a change to allow 256 vertices in the editor/level files and now the game crashes and I don't know how to preserve his change and fix the crash
21:53:14BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> uh oh
21:53:22BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Because of the loadout zones?
21:53:29BFDiscordBridge<raptor> yes
21:53:33BFDiscordBridge<raptor> any zone really
21:53:36BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Delete them
21:53:38BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> No more zones
21:53:40BFDiscordBridge<raptor> it's some weird network thing
21:53:41BFDiscordBridge<raptor> ha
21:53:50BFDiscordBridge<numbers> bitmatch only
21:54:02BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Loadout by respawn only
21:54:24BFDiscordBridge<numbers> that phrase is like a lemon in the mouth
21:54:32BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Needs more sugar?
21:54:49BFDiscordBridge<numbers> just. oogh
21:55:38BFDiscordBridge<numbers> imagine a map with long spawn delay with loadout by respawn
21:55:44BFDiscordBridge<numbers> aka how to make players suffer
21:56:07BFDiscordBridge<numbers> contest idea: the suffering contest. make the worst-playing maps
21:56:45BFDiscordBridge<numbers> desert bus soccer, but the ball can fall out of the tube and there's corners
21:57:10BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Basically all one life only maps
21:57:16BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Except no loadout zones
22:30:09BFDiscordBridge<raptor> should suicides drop a flag in nexus?
22:30:35BFDiscordBridge<raptor> Or put differently, would removing suicides from dropping flags help the game mode at all?
22:31:04BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> It would both fix and break a lot of maps
22:31:26BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Most maps would benefit from not being able to suicide and amass large amount of flags
22:31:39BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Some maps are specifically designed to use that concept
22:31:50BFDiscordBridge<bobdaduck> I don't know any maps that use suicide flagdrops
22:32:07BFDiscordBridge<bobdaduck> I don't think I'd miss it
22:32:10BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> There were a few two contests ago I think
22:32:42BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> You couldn’t get to your opponents area, so killing them just gave them more flags
22:32:50BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> The goal was literally to suicide the most
22:32:57BFDiscordBridge<bobdaduck> oh yea I remember those now
22:33:54BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> I also feel like the social distancing nexus map in this contest might have been aiming for that as well
22:33:56BFDiscordBridge<raptor> i suppose you could still get away with base-farming using mines
22:34:16BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Since going outside your base could spread covid
22:34:42BFDiscordBridge<numbers> i dont think it did, camping is almost always a bad mechanic
22:34:49BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Should friendly fire drop flags?
22:35:05BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> I feel like if we get rid of suicide flags we should also get rid of that
22:36:02BFDiscordBridge<raptor> yeah, it would be easy to do both with probably 2 lines of code
22:36:10BFDiscordBridge<raptor> but
22:36:21BFDiscordBridge<Jojo> i think im a fan of the simple logic of death = flag drop
22:36:34BFDiscordBridge<raptor> would it be worth it? Would having bases on nexus maps be a good thing if that is done
22:36:52BFDiscordBridge<raptor> i'm a fan of simple logic
22:36:56BFDiscordBridge<numbers> maybe make it an option in nexus parameters?
22:37:03BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Yes solely because friendly turrets could kill enemies for you
22:37:26BFDiscordBridge<numbers> be hard to find out though because there's nothing telling you if suicide = flag or not
22:37:27BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Almost every nexus map that allows camping has people saying “make it so you can’t camp” in the reviews
22:37:44BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> So I feel like flag camping is universally boring
22:38:01BFDiscordBridge<numbers> and you can always just find a bunch a flags and then sit in base for a bunch
22:38:13BFDiscordBridge<numbers> or get a different player to find flags while you hold them
22:38:25BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Yeah so bases would still be useful for hiding or hoarding
22:38:37BFDiscordBridge<numbers> or even use the forcefields as a flag dump

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