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| 00:02:00 | raptor | ok, so back to the issues list, i guess... |
| 00:02:00 | raptor | oh wait, we have to remove soccer pickup |
| 00:02:00 | raptor | then we can close k's issue on soccer |
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| 00:22:00 | raptor | isn't zooooooomba one of those flashy, popular workout routines? |
| 00:27:00 | Zoomber | ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 00:28:00 | Zoomber | http://www.zumba.com/shop?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=zumba%20workout |
| 00:28:00 | Zoomber | close though |
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| 00:28:00 | sam686 | IRC bandwidth takes about 10 bytes a second, very small... |
| 00:31:00 | Zoomber | yeah, but thats each second |
| 00:31:00 | Zoomber | eh |
| 00:31:00 | Zoomber | 843.75 kilabytes inst much i suppose |
| 00:31:00 | raptor | you should use firefox +adblock + flashblock |
| 00:31:00 | Zoomber | though, theres also the text part |
| 00:31:00 | raptor | save tons! |
| 00:32:00 | Zoomber | thanks raptor |
| 00:32:00 | Zoomber | i will put that on my list |
| 00:32:00 | Zoomber | they told me i dont have a bandwidth cap right now |
| 00:32:00 | Zoomber | but if i go over a 150 GB limit, it will activate next month |
| 00:32:00 | raptor | make sure you subscribe to all three of these adblock lists: http://www.fanboy.co.nz/ |
| 00:34:00 | sam686 | for me, all i do to block most ads is using this site: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm |
| 00:35:00 | sam686 | it is just a text file to put in windows.. |
| 00:36:00 | raptor | haha, the hosts file |
| 00:36:00 | raptor | good technique |
| 00:37:00 | raptor | gets messy quickly though |
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| 00:45:00 | raptor | wow sam686, I'm tempted to use that hosts file |
| 00:46:00 | raptor | that's great |
| 00:46:00 | raptor | much faster than anything else |
| 00:46:00 | raptor | and stop things good... |
| 00:48:00 | sam686 | yes, the good thing about hosts file is it doesn't matter what web browser you use.. |
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| 00:50:00 | raptor | ok, restarting network to make it take effect... |
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| 00:50:00 | Zoomber | ok |
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| 00:51:00 | Zoomber | hi raptor |
| 00:51:00 | raptor | this is awesome! fast browsing |
| 00:51:00 | sam686 | good |
| 00:52:00 | Zoomber | what |
| 00:52:00 | Zoomber | what did you do? |
| 00:52:00 | sam686 | i think raptor used the host file to block ads. http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm |
| 00:52:00 | raptor | Zoomber: add this to your OS hosts file: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt |
| 00:53:00 | raptor | on mac, it might be at /etc/hosts |
| 00:53:00 | raptor | and you need to be root to change it i think |
| 00:54:00 | Zoomber | this does what? |
| 00:54:00 | Zoomber | oh, it blocks all adds? |
| 00:54:00 | raptor | yes, it looks like the list is update every 2 months or so |
| 00:54:00 | raptor | but it does better than block all ads |
| 00:54:00 | sam686 | anything listed in host file will be blocked, mostly ads are listed to block it |
| 00:54:00 | raptor | it stop any from being download, and it works for all browsers |
| 00:55:00 | sam686 | basically, all DNS names will need to be looked up to find IP to connect to.. |
| 00:56:00 | sam686 | by having it 127.0.0.1, it will try to connect to that instead (which fails) and does not eat not a single internet bandwidth. |
| 00:56:00 | raptor | and 127.0.0.1 is the fast IP to connect to :) |
| 00:56:00 | sam686 | as 127.x.x.x is local host (connect to itself) |
| 01:00:00 | raptor | i'll have to see how well it does compared to adblock's annoyances list |
| 01:00:00 | raptor | i.e. facebook 'like' buttons on all the websites... |
| 01:01:00 | raptor | doesn't do so good... |
| 01:01:00 | raptor | the annoyances adblock list really speeds up the web, too |
| 01:03:00 | raptor | http://www.fanboy.co.nz/ |
| 01:03:00 | raptor | the third list really speeds up the web |
| 01:03:00 | raptor | at least on popular web sites |
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| 01:17:00 | zoomber_ibm | ping |
| 01:17:00 | raptor | pong |
| 01:17:00 | sam686 | pong |
| 01:17:00 | zoomber_ibm | wow, that took forever to reach my other computer |
| 01:18:00 | sam686 | we have to type which takes several seconds |
| 01:18:00 | raptor | OK, I'm annihilating soccer pickup |
| 01:19:00 | zoomber_ibm | no sam, i mean the `'ping from my desktop took a longtime to reach my imac |
| 01:20:00 | zoomber_ibm | i guess i didnt tell you, i put back my ibm again |
| 01:20:00 | zoomber_ibm | i was sick of dual monitoring |
| 01:33:00 | sam686 | Dual monotor is better for desktops then laptops, but many desktops may only have one video output |
| 01:34:00 | sam686 | i like dual monitor on my desktops, but triple monitor is a little too much for me... |
| 01:36:00 | zoomber_ibm | no, mac just has bad desktoop dual monitor output stuff. no dock/menubar |
| 01:37:00 | sam686 | in windows, there is taskbar that only show up in one monitor.. |
| 01:37:00 | sam686 | but in menu bar, it is attached to the program window itself |
| 01:38:00 | zoomber_ibm | you can change that you know |
| 01:40:00 | sam686 | i don't know if i can change that, many programs have their own menu bar, and bitfighter in windows don't have nemu bar, just the title bar. |
| 01:43:00 | sam686 | I find myself using Alt+Tab a lot more then taskbar in windows |
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| 01:50:00 | raptor | die pickup die! |
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| 02:46:00 | sam686 | something is wrong with multiple spaces in TextItem turning into only a single space.. |
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| 03:02:00 | raptor | that's no good |
| 03:03:00 | raptor | sam686: your new moveObject physics is so much more natural now |
| 03:08:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit fd9e73513067 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Goodbye soccer pickup. It was interesting while it lasted... |
| 03:27:00 | sam686 | for MoveObjects physics, I have sort of used a formule that was here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_restitution |
| 03:32:00 | sam686 | another problem with TextItem in editor, quotation ( " ) turned into space. |
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| 14:45:00 | raptor | good morning! |
| 14:46:00 | raptor | watusimoto: did you try fake fullscreen? |
| 15:01:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 15:01:00 | raptor | hi |
| 15:01:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 15:07:00 | watusimoto | not yet; will tonight if I can update |
| 15:07:00 | watusimoto | if I have internet, thatis |
| 15:07:00 | watusimoto | looking forward to it |
| 15:07:00 | raptor | still mooching off of the neighbors? |
| 15:08:00 | watusimoto | sometimes, sometimes I get a city-run wifi connection that I paid for |
| 15:08:00 | watusimoto | but access is very dicy |
| 15:08:00 | watusimoto | sometimes works, other times not |
| 15:08:00 | watusimoto | and if it is raining, I don't have a good spot to access it |
| 15:08:00 | watusimoto | well, i never have a good spot; in rain I have no spot |
| 15:09:00 | watusimoto | next week they will try again with the internet install |
| 15:09:00 | watusimoto | was just looking at tolua++ |
| 15:09:00 | watusimoto | and wondering if I made a good call using lunar to bind c++ and lua |
| 15:10:00 | raptor | what's the difference (other than name)? |
| 15:11:00 | sam686 | I think i know how to fix the quote (") and multiple spaces problem in TextItem.. |
| 15:12:00 | watusimoto | was it broken? |
| 15:12:00 | raptor | encode everything to base64, then decode it? |
| 15:12:00 | raptor | that'll fix our escaping problems for good :) |
| 15:12:00 | sam686 | by having a string something like this "hello ""there"" !" which will be hello "there" ! |
| 15:12:00 | watusimoto | @r == difference is tolua++ generates most of the binding code for you |
| 15:12:00 | watusimoto | why not "hello\"there\""? |
| 15:13:00 | watusimoto | I didn't realize there was a problem with text items |
| 15:13:00 | sam686 | some older version already have \ inside the string, i don't think i want to break existing strings.. |
| 15:14:00 | raptor | no one is taking my base64 idea seriously? :) |
| 15:14:00 | sam686 | that is, 015 can happily do "/hello\" don't want to break that.. |
| 15:14:00 | watusimoto | what do you want to do that you can't now? |
| 15:14:00 | sam686 | double quote turning into single quote does not break anything ("") |
| 15:17:00 | sam686 | i am sure no one wants to read different language encoding when reading TextItem |
| 15:17:00 | raptor | the idea is we always pass any user input into a base64 encoder first, that way we never have to worry about escaping... then we decode when showing back to user |
| 15:17:00 | raptor | although that would make level files with plain text unreadable.. |
| 15:18:00 | raptor | and probably not support extended chars.. |
| 15:18:00 | raptor | ok scratch my idea |
| 15:20:00 | sam686 | if going with \", then we may have to go with \\ as well. If going with "", then we don't need to do anything about \ |
| 15:45:00 | sam686 | is there a kind of string replace that have replace(string find, string newstring)? |
| 15:50:00 | raptor | like a regex search and replace? |
| 15:50:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 15:51:00 | raptor | not in the standard c++ libraries, i think |
| 15:51:00 | raptor | there is string::replace |
| 15:51:00 | raptor | but not regex |
| 15:52:00 | raptor | http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/string/string/replace/ |
| 15:53:00 | sam686 | i would like to replace all of " into "" for example... |
| 15:53:00 | sam686 | i think the one listed there can only replace one thing only at certain position.. |
| 15:55:00 | raptor | yesh, it's very minimal |
| 15:56:00 | raptor | here is example: http://www.java2s.com/Tutorial/Cpp/0300__string/Replaceallspaceswithperiod.htm |
| 15:58:00 | raptor | boost! |
| 15:58:00 | raptor | http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_47_0/libs/regex/doc/html/index.html |
| 15:59:00 | raptor | i think we already have the headers in the project |
| 15:59:00 | sam686 | i am not sure what kind of boost replace to use.. |
| 16:00:00 | raptor | http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_47_0/libs/regex/doc/html/boost_regex/ref/regex_replace.html |
| 16:00:00 | raptor | however - this may have a binary component... |
| 16:00:00 | raptor | which is no good |
| 16:01:00 | raptor | I have to go now, be back in a few hours... |
| 16:01:00 | sam686 | ok |
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| 17:00:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 465535475add | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fix problem with saving string with team name and TextItem containing # " and multiple spaces |
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| 18:06:00 | raptor | i'm back! |
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| 18:31:00 | karamazovapy | FINALLY MY INTERNET IS BACK UP! |
| 18:31:00 | raptor | well hello there |
| 18:32:00 | raptor | is that your excuse for leaving sam686 and I alone with scary bots? |
| 18:32:00 | karamazovapy | I hate comcast |
| 18:32:00 | raptor | me too |
| 18:33:00 | sam686 | it did not look like you lost internet - you was still visiting the forum somehow.. |
| 18:33:00 | karamazovapy | I have internet access on my phone |
| 18:33:00 | karamazovapy | but it's a hassle |
| 18:33:00 | raptor | well you haven't missed too much... |
| 18:33:00 | raptor | soccer pickup is gone |
| 18:34:00 | raptor | i think that's about the only major change... |
| 18:34:00 | raptor | since you disappeared |
| 18:35:00 | karamazovapy | I have so much illegal downloading to do! |
| 18:35:00 | raptor | gotta get your fix? |
| 18:36:00 | karamazovapy | shyeah...I don't have cable! I missed all my tv! |
| 18:45:00 | sam686 | My internet cable has not a single problem in a past 26 days so far (when looking at cable modem log) |
| 18:55:00 | raptor | yeah, when i had comcast I had issues with them... |
| 18:56:00 | raptor | since i've switched to a fiber provider, i have only had one issue (not involving power outages) in the last 2 years |
| 18:56:00 | raptor | and the problem was solved in 1/2 day |
| 18:57:00 | sam686 | my cable is midcontinent communications, earliear I had problem that was related to cable not being able to connect |
| 18:57:00 | sam686 | but later, i somehow fix that by adding a cable amplifyer.. |
| 18:57:00 | raptor | cable amplifier? |
| 18:57:00 | raptor | those exist for home users? |
| 18:58:00 | sam686 | yes, i have a 2 way amplifyer.. |
| 18:58:00 | sam686 | mostly weak signal was due to using a splitter to also use a TV |
| 18:59:00 | sam686 | i mean i have amplifyer with return path.. |
| 19:00:00 | raptor | one of these days the US will have a proper internet infrastructure... |
| 19:00:00 | raptor | i hope |
| 19:00:00 | sam686 | i have heard zoomber had problem even trying to switch to comcast internet.. |
| 19:03:00 | raptor | yeah - one day people will drop TV for good, too, hopefully |
| 19:04:00 | sam686 | Why have TV with little or no control of when you want to watch it, if internet have video you can watch almost anything when you want to |
| 19:04:00 | raptor | EXACTLY! |
| 19:04:00 | raptor | it's a 'push' vs 'pull' environment |
| 19:04:00 | raptor | push is bad |
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