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| 00:35:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | sam686: Are you going to go trick or treating? :-D |
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| 00:46:00 | Zoomber | hi raptor |
| 00:46:00 | raptor | howdy |
| 00:46:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | hey ra[tpr |
| 00:46:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | raptor |
| 00:46:00 | raptor | haha |
| 00:47:00 | raptor | i'm feeding trick-or-treaters off and on... |
| 00:47:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | yeah i just asked sam if he was going trick or treating... |
| 00:47:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | he said replied... |
| 00:47:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | he hasnt |
| 00:48:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | my fingers seem to be a bit out of sync tonight :/ maybe i been making a maze too long.. |
| 00:48:00 | Zoomber | har har har |
| 00:49:00 | Zoomber | i took a magnet, a battery, and wire, and made a motor |
| 00:54:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | i've confused myself with this maze, i'm not sure which one is the correct route now.. and i made it :/ |
| 01:06:00 | Zoomber | i tried wrapping the wire a different way, and blocked it from movement. the whole thing started smoke-ing up instantly |
| 01:09:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | raptor: That you with your name + random letters on current players? |
| 01:10:00 | raptor | yeah - testing dynamic resizing of an in-game window.. |
| 01:10:00 | raptor | needed a long name :) |
| 01:11:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ah ok :-) |
| 01:16:00 | Zoomber | oh raptor, a day of tiredness i feel |
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| 01:21:00 | raptor | take a nap |
| 01:24:00 | Zoomber_laptop | me? |
| 01:25:00 | raptor | it may be a bit late, i guess |
| 01:25:00 | | karamazovapy re-read ender's game last week, incidentally |
| 01:25:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 99a7efea2ca0 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Better feedback for /shuffle |
| 01:26:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: what did you think the second time around? |
| 01:26:00 | Zoomber_laptop | hey karamazovapy |
| 01:26:00 | karamazovapy | I think it was more like the fourth time around |
| 01:26:00 | karamazovapy | still good |
| 01:26:00 | raptor | or that |
| 01:26:00 | Zoomber_laptop | hey _k, im so cool i now have my own irc channel --> irc.maxhushahn.com |
| 01:26:00 | karamazovapy | speaker for the dead, also good |
| 01:26:00 | raptor | then i need to know no more |
| 01:26:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | having a irc channel doesn't make you cool :p it only makes you cool if it's full of cool people.... |
| 01:26:00 | karamazovapy | started up the third book, got side tracked |
| 01:27:00 | karamazovapy | read American Gods for the first time instead |
| 01:27:00 | | CrazyLinuxNerd finally made a playable rabbit level |
| 01:27:00 | Zoomber_laptop | crazylinuxnerd: Who said that was false? :) |
| 01:27:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | last time i checked you channel was empty :p |
| 01:28:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: interesting i have not heard of that book before |
| 01:28:00 | | CrazyLinuxNerd can't stop laughing at his attempt at drawing a pirate |
| 01:28:00 | raptor | i should pay more attention to those that win the Hugo awards |
| 01:28:00 | karamazovapy | American Gods? Neil Gaiman book. Not bad. |
| 01:29:00 | Zoomber_laptop | um, last time i checked a guy named Zoomber was there |
| 01:29:00 | karamazovapy | next I'm going to read all his old Sandman stuff |
| 01:29:00 | karamazovapy | I'm a big fan of Sam Keith, and I know he did a lot of art for those books |
| 01:30:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Zoomer_laptop: so wheres the cool people? :p |
| 01:32:00 | Zoomber_laptop | wait, zoomber left? |
| 01:33:00 | Zoomber_laptop | dont worry |
| 01:33:00 | Zoomber_laptop | ill fill in for him |
| 01:33:00 | | CrazyLinuxNerd does facepalm |
| 01:36:00 | raptor | only 28 016 issue to go! |
| 01:36:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | not bad :-) getting there |
| 01:36:00 | raptor | well, official issues - sam686 and watusimoto have their pages of bugs... |
| 01:37:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | did you pick the shortest? :-D |
| 01:37:00 | raptor | i always pick the low-hanging fruit... |
| 01:37:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | haha |
| 01:38:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ah man i made this damn maze and testing the level i keep going the wrong way... :/ |
| 01:38:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: would you be able to add to this issue? I don't remember any ideas that were discussed about it: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=109 |
| 01:43:00 | Zoomber_laptop | you mean like soemthing in the level saying "specials bigbitfighterbattle" just like "specials engineer"? |
| 01:44:00 | raptor | no, i think there was to be a UI framework of sorts for it, or someother features add in-game just for it |
| 01:48:00 | karamazovapy | oh, right...watusimoto brought up a BBB mode several times |
| 01:50:00 | Zoomber_laptop | well, having that inside the text could activate the ui? or a separate branch/compiling flag ? |
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| 01:53:00 | karamazovapy | http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=109#c1 |
| 01:54:00 | raptor | thanks! |
| 01:54:00 | raptor | i think most of those would be good server commands |
| 01:55:00 | karamazovapy | I'm just trying to think back on what made that bitmatch tournament so impossible |
| 01:55:00 | karamazovapy | maybe even adding spectator mode |
| 01:56:00 | Zoomber | i thought that was already planned? |
| 01:56:00 | raptor | lots of those ideas are |
| 01:57:00 | Zoomber | it shows up like another team when pressing tab and looking at team boxes, |
| 01:57:00 | Zoomber | allow them to pan the map as ghost (cloaked) ships |
| 01:58:00 | Zoomber | but hollowgraphic to turrets, testitems, and players |
| 01:58:00 | karamazovapy | I don't think it should show up like a team... |
| 01:58:00 | raptor | i'm not entirely sure, but i think observers would not be ships |
| 01:58:00 | karamazovapy | that's confusing |
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| 01:59:00 | Zoomber | weather the ship or not, i believe it should be a team, and i'm going to stubbornly stick to that opinion |
| 01:59:00 | Zoomber | heres what i think |
| 02:00:00 | Zoomber | this way, you can choose to "spectate" in team select |
| 02:00:00 | Zoomber | your removed from the team you were on, but people at least know you are still in the server.. |
| 02:00:00 | Zoomber | if you go to spectate, obviously you need to be removed from the team, right? how will players know your there? |
| 02:00:00 | karamazovapy | I don't think it should show up when you press tab to view the scoreboard. it's not a team. you can't score. |
| 02:01:00 | Zoomber | who said it had to be a team? |
| 02:01:00 | Zoomber | it just should have the format of the square, with the name "spectators" |
| 02:01:00 | raptor | and i would have reservations sending observer data to other players - it would require more bandwidth |
| 02:01:00 | karamazovapy | <Zoomber> weather the ship or not, i believe it should be a team, and i'm going to stubbornly stick to that opinion |
| 02:02:00 | karamazovapy | frankly, I'm not sure it's even appropriate to have a spectator mode |
| 02:03:00 | karamazovapy | you could just open a client and place a spectator ship in the enemy base |
| 02:03:00 | karamazovapy | then open your regular gameplay client |
| 02:03:00 | raptor | wow, my two-year old has been introduced to halloween candy... |
| 02:03:00 | karamazovapy | yikes |
| 02:03:00 | Zoomber | sorry, i really contradicted myself here; i mixed up words a bit. Aparentally every idea i say is always opposed. I meant, there should be a nice graphical box thats one like a team, to show you there. let me post a picture, to show what i mean, since my words aparently cant |
| 02:03:00 | karamazovapy | this 27 year old is about to go introduce himself to some halloween beer |
| 02:05:00 | karamazovapy | I guess I'm torn on spectator mode. I see the uses, but it also seems problematic. |
| 02:09:00 | | karamazovapy is off for a drink...later! |
| 02:13:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 02:13:00 | Zoomber | wait |
| 02:13:00 | Zoomber | before you go |
| 02:13:00 | Zoomber | with my terrible art skills |
| 02:13:00 | Zoomber | this is what i had in mind |
| 02:13:00 | Zoomber | http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9641/screenshot20111031at704.png |
| 02:14:00 | Zoomber | also, i should have renamed chumpchange and sbot.0 to something else, as they cant be on both teams at once |
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| 03:22:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | sam686: you around? |
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| 03:59:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, I very much dislike that system for representing the spectator team, if we ever have one |
| 03:59:00 | karamazovapy | spectators do not belong on the scoreboard by definition |
| 04:19:00 | raptor | ah, karamazovapy is back |
| 04:20:00 | raptor | and me too |
| 04:20:00 | | CrazyLinuxNerd could hear crickets |
| 04:20:00 | raptor | i do not think observers should be on the scoreboard |
| 04:21:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | my view on speccys is no score board, however allow speccys |
| 04:23:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | raptor: so do you think i should keep that map with captain long nose? |
| 04:24:00 | raptor | haha, do wnat you want with it |
| 04:24:00 | raptor | it may be that it doesn't fit a contest theme |
| 04:25:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | yeah, i was thinking of submitting it for bbb |
| 04:25:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | which someone else suggested. |
| 04:25:00 | | CrazyLinuxNerd looks a zoomber |
| 04:26:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | but first i need to add health packs and energy items, and fix the entrance and exit xD |
| 04:27:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | can't believe you got lost in a maze though |
| 04:27:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | shows it works.. |
| 04:28:00 | raptor | yeah yeah |
| 04:28:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | don't feel too bad about it, first few times i went through it, i went wrong way.. and I made it |
| 04:44:00 | raptor | slipping into unconsciousness... |
| 04:45:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | lol it's 04:45am here :-) |
| 04:45:00 | raptor | i think i'm coming off the halloween candy... |
| 04:46:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | feeling sick? |
| 04:46:00 | raptor | a bit :) |
| 04:46:00 | raptor | we had to eat as much of two-year old's candy before he wakes up again... |
| 04:46:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | lmao, or cheat, just put it somewhere they can't reach or see |
| 04:48:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | this song is too catchy for it's own good, i'm sitting here singing along saying "rum rum rum yarrr, rum rum rum ahoy!" |
| 04:48:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | lol |
| 04:50:00 | raptor | ok night night |
| 04:50:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | cya dude |
| 04:50:00 | raptor | can't keep eyes open |
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| 05:27:00 | Zoomber_laptop | hey karamazovapy |
| 05:27:00 | Zoomber_laptop | i found the jackpot |
| 05:27:00 | Zoomber_laptop | http://web.archive.org/web/20061018001234/http://www.garagegames.com/mg/forums/result.forum.php?qf=150 |
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| 09:00:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | /whois CrazyLinuxNerd |
| 09:00:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | :/ |
| 09:01:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ignore that lol |
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| 19:30:00 | karamazovapy | zoomber_imb - you pretty much found the "retro levels" pack I uploaded a while ago |
| 19:30:00 | karamazovapy | erm... zoomber_ibm |
| 19:31:00 | raptor | sam686: did you back port your random level code for /next ? |
| 19:34:00 | raptor | i just played 7 skybax levels in a row on sam's server |
| 19:35:00 | raptor | i thought they were all half-way decent - is skybax an old-timer? |
| 19:36:00 | karamazovapy | ish. he claims to be. |
| 19:36:00 | karamazovapy | if I remember, he was a new guy on the old forums |
| 19:37:00 | karamazovapy | which means he's been around for at least two years |
| 19:37:00 | raptor | ah ok |
| 19:38:00 | raptor | did we ever decide how to resolve this?: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=46 |
| 19:38:00 | raptor | I remember a long conversation on it, but i'm lost in the logs trying to find it |
| 19:39:00 | karamazovapy | we talked about making it impossible to change to a team with more players or with a higher score, but I don't think we ever resolved anything |
| 19:40:00 | karamazovapy | I don't think it's a huge problem, but it would be even more insignificant if we got bots to auto-balance teams |
| 19:41:00 | raptor | ah bots |
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| 20:02:00 | sam686 | nothing much was said about unbalanced teams switching problem in IRC, some of that has happen to be talked about back in a skype chat. http://208.107.52.15/bitfighter/skype110324.txt |
| 20:05:00 | raptor | hmmm... the conversation i'm thinking about happened after 015a, and i'm pretty sure in IRC |
| 20:08:00 | sam686 | found one in a forum http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=718 |
| 20:09:00 | sam686 | http://208.107.52.15/irclog/ i didn't really find it where it talks about team balances in my irc logs... |
| 20:10:00 | sam686 | in bflogbot, good luck trying to open 200 links trying to find it. http://209.141.63.138/irclogs/ |
| 20:11:00 | raptor | haha |
| 20:11:00 | raptor | yeah... maybe I should program a search interface.. |
| 20:12:00 | raptor | there is probably a better way to log anyways... |
| 20:12:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | raptor: maybe you could use a google custom search for that? |
| 20:12:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | but not sure if logs are indexed in google |
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| 20:13:00 | sam686 | http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3A209.141.63.138 so nothing there.... |
| 20:13:00 | sam686 | google is no help there.. |
| 20:13:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ah, never mind then |
| 20:13:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | was just an idea :-) |
| 20:14:00 | raptor | google custom search - not worth the hassle; besides, I disabled search engine indexing on the master server server |
| 20:14:00 | raptor | I have an idea... |
| 20:14:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | please do tell :-) |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | a simple php based do-it-yourself search |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | I can write it... some day |
| 20:15:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | sounds simple enough |
| 20:18:00 | sam686 | there is one useful thing about one big text file instead of hundreds of small ones, easier to do ctrl + F to find on that text file.. |
| 20:19:00 | raptor | yes |
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| 20:20:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Yeah, but search could still come in handy in my opinion |
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| 20:20:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | but then cntrl f works too |
| 20:21:00 | sam686 | my main.php code is nothing more then compining all of a little log files into one. http://208.107.52.15/irclog/main.php_source.txt |
| 20:22:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | but last time I looked i thought it was lots of little files? one for each day or something? or am I missing something? |
| 20:22:00 | sam686 | combining (not p compining) |
| 20:23:00 | sam686 | here it runs on my computer, combining most of the logs of bitfighter into one. http://208.107.52.15/irclog/main.php |
| 20:23:00 | sam686 | thats my latest logging, at the end of that text.. |
| 20:24:00 | sam686 | BFLogBot is a bit different. http://209.141.63.138/irclogs/ |
| 20:24:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ah I see. Fair enough :-). if it's all in one place cntrl f should be "enough" but a search engine could still have it's uses |
| 21:52:00 | karamazovapy | BlackBird actually had a pretty good idea in game - |
| 21:52:00 | karamazovapy | allow clients to sort a list of maps by date |
| 21:52:00 | karamazovapy | so they can see what's new |
| 21:54:00 | raptor | would sorting be an option? |
| 21:55:00 | raptor | when selecting a new level, first popup with choices like "by name, by date, by filesize, etc" |
| 21:55:00 | raptor | ? |
| 21:55:00 | karamazovapy | well you can choose a gametype, or choose to view all in alphabetical order |
| 21:56:00 | karamazovapy | I think he wants another option where you view by submission or modified date |
| 21:57:00 | raptor | oh duh |
| 21:58:00 | raptor | see i have to play this game more often... |
| 21:59:00 | raptor | so 'All levels by name' and 'All levels by date' |
| 22:04:00 | karamazovapy | something like that |
| 23:03:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 8672b458c4d1 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Rendering performance improvements in /shuffle; also make UI bounding box dynamic |
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| 23:44:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | I feel sorry for my poor stickman :-( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23947015/Screenshots/Game/Screenshot%20-%2011012011%20-%2011%3A36%3A02%20PM.png |
