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| 00:02:00 | sam686 | we might need more people to deside which is best scrolling, i think... |
| 00:05:00 | raptor | yes |
| 00:06:00 | raptor | or find common implementations in other software |
| 00:07:00 | raptor | and use whats most common |
| 00:09:00 | raptor | the gimp is hold-middle drag |
| 00:09:00 | raptor | any other editing software you know of? |
| 00:10:00 | sam686 | Adobe Reader 9, mainly have a middle button smooth scroll, but have an option to have left mouse drag |
| 00:11:00 | raptor | yeah but it's nnot an editor |
| 00:11:00 | raptor | neither is a broswer |
| 00:11:00 | raptor | does microsoft paint do something? |
| 00:12:00 | sam686 | on windows xp, it have its default "Paint", but middle mouse button do nothing at all on that program.. |
| 00:13:00 | sam686 | my KVIrc (irc client), middle mouse button do nothing either.. |
| 00:13:00 | raptor | let me install inkscape |
| 00:14:00 | raptor | looking for graphical editing programs |
| 00:14:00 | sam686 | Visual C++ 2008, have a middle mouse smooth auto scroll.. |
| 00:15:00 | raptor | that makes sense for programs that you read text in... |
| 00:15:00 | sam686 | maybe that where my scrolling idea came from, i am so used to scrolling that way.. |
| 00:15:00 | sam686 | bitfighter editor is not very graphics (no bitmaps, no textures) |
| 00:16:00 | raptor | neither is inkscape |
| 00:16:00 | raptor | it is vector graphics |
| 00:16:00 | raptor | almost installed... |
| 00:18:00 | sam686 | i happen to have inkscape-0.48.1-2-win32 already downloaded as an archive, extracting... |
| 00:20:00 | sam686 | it seem to do a middle mouse drag.. |
| 00:20:00 | raptor | yes |
| 00:21:00 | raptor | so it looks like the standard for text-based programs is your way; and the standard for graphics editing/building programs is watusimoto's |
| 00:22:00 | sam686 | but middle mouse button don't work in incscape while drawing rectangle (holding down left button), all it does is zoom in... |
| 00:28:00 | sam686 | only problem is when you click on the middle mouse button but don't hold it, and nothing happens (except, zoom in, which i might not want) |
| 00:31:00 | raptor | so you are saying that if we do drag with holding down middle button in the editor, we should have an action for just clicking it? |
| 00:32:00 | sam686 | don't know.. |
| 00:32:00 | sam686 | I have run into a few levels that are extremely big, editor can't zoom out all the way to see the whole level.. |
| 00:36:00 | sam686 | i think the revision ba5a600202bd was mostly good, as it allows both methods without keyboard.. |
| 00:37:00 | raptor | yes i agree |
| 00:38:00 | sam686 | i kind of not like "Middle mouse centers " replacement, almost no programs does that way.. |
| 00:39:00 | raptor | yeah me neither |
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| 04:40:00 | raptor | I think we need to update/change the stock maps |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | Elmer's revenge has a score that is waaay too low |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | rabbit of 10 points |
| 06:21:00 | raptor | IT COMPILED!! |
| 06:21:00 | raptor | first time in a week! |
| 06:30:00 | raptor | and it doesn't crash! |
| 06:30:00 | raptor | it doesn't work either, but great! |
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| 14:44:00 | Flash_Garden | I'm unclear as to why scrolling is a problem. |
| 14:46:00 | watusimoto | it's not a problem per se |
| 14:46:00 | watusimoto | we just have some new ways of doing it that are better |
| 14:47:00 | sam686 | This is for middle mouse button... |
| 14:47:00 | watusimoto | but the ideas are in slight conflict with one another |
| 14:47:00 | watusimoto | the old ways will still work |
| 14:47:00 | watusimoto | thought I suspect the new ways are so much better that they will come to dominate |
| 14:48:00 | sam686 | i kind of like grab scroll holding down middle mouse button, but with auto scroll with click middle mouse button... |
| 14:49:00 | sam686 | no need to mess up with keyboard buttons to grab scroll.. |
| 14:56:00 | watusimoto | perhaps I would like that arrangement better if if we didn;t draw the arrows until after you released the button and it was clear you hadn't initiated a grab-scroll |
| 14:56:00 | watusimoto | the flashing arrows really bugs me |
| 14:57:00 | sam686 | thats easily done, by turning on mScrollWithMouse on keyUp. |
| 14:57:00 | Flash_Garden | I zoom-scroll-zoom. Its crazy fast and easy. |
| 15:18:00 | sam686 | ok, i got the old way to work, but did watusimoto make changes to UIEditor.cpp? Here is my changes (not pushed yet) http://208.107.52.15/hg.php/rev/b0219c0c871f |
| 15:19:00 | sam686 | with, no blinking arrows on drag scroll |
| 15:50:00 | watusimoto | if that works, you can remove the mDragPanning var as well, but I think you'll need it to make things work. But if you see it working ok, then you can commit. You didn't mess with anything unrelated as far as I can see. |
| 15:51:00 | sam686 | ok, i got it into main source... |
| 15:52:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit b0219c0c871f | Author: sam8641 | Log: Revert UIEditor.cpp to revision ba5a600202bd and make arrows show only on release of press scroll button |
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| 16:07:00 | raptor | hi |
| 16:07:00 | watusimoto | hi |
| 16:07:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 6284f19a7374 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Took sky_lark's suggestion to make nexus/bitbash/rabbit say Team ___ on the intro screen if they are team based. |
| 16:07:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 79aee6150316 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge |
| 16:07:00 | watusimoto | ok, the scrollig you just checked in seems to work well. |
| 16:07:00 | raptor | watusimoto: sam686 and I did research and found that the standard way to move in graphics editors is to hold-middle-mouse down |
| 16:07:00 | watusimoto | the only thing to do now is change cursor to "spray" when you're holding middle mouse |
| 16:08:00 | watusimoto | gotta run -- back later |
| 16:08:00 | raptor | oh |
| 16:08:00 | raptor | it's back |
| 16:08:00 | raptor | nevermind |
| 16:12:00 | sam686 | i think auto scroll should be faster... |
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| 16:22:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 48ecc2a52722 | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fix drag scroll while dragging FlagItem mMoveOrigin conflict, auto scroll now works better while dragging something |
| 16:27:00 | raptor | i can't believe that unordered_map just barely made it into c++ stl |
| 16:48:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | w5PKtX9Ce37CrnpZqWB7iobTQxZFIMKCmUm7im3NhRQ4LBGSQ |
| 16:48:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | woops, soz not ment to go in here.. |
| 16:49:00 | sam686 | what was that? |
| 16:49:00 | raptor | it's his e-mail password |
| 16:49:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | nope not my email password haha |
| 16:49:00 | raptor | or his bank account |
| 16:49:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | not that one either |
| 16:49:00 | raptor | :) |
| 16:49:00 | sam686 | password of something? |
| 16:49:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | maybe. |
| 16:50:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | that's what i get for blindly control + v'ing |
| 16:50:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | thankfully, it's only for an encrypted memorystick, nothing online :-) |
| 16:50:00 | sam686 | it looks too long and too random for that to be password.. |
| 16:51:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | yeah, it's generated :-) Not all my passwords are made by me, i use a generator for a lot of my pass'es |
| 16:52:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | anyhows... nevermind about it and forget i pasted it here :-) |
| 16:53:00 | sam686 | good luck trying to erast that on BFLogBot (and my log file, though i can erase from my log...) |
| 16:54:00 | | CrazyLinuxNerd goes off to change that particular password and generate a new one |
| 16:59:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | besides, i can't be the only one to have accidently pasted his password into an irc channel :-) |
| 17:01:00 | sam686 | One time, I somehow pasted in a google code and commited / pushed without knowing my password to push was pasted there.. http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/detail?r=e2a94221cac9 |
| 17:01:00 | sam686 | in projectile.cpp |
| 17:02:00 | raptor | haha, i remember that |
| 17:02:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | lmao, how quick did you change that password? |
| 17:02:00 | sam686 | i noticed it because, it obviously failed to compile.. |
| 17:03:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | oh yeah, you should of put in in a nice var or something :-) |
| 17:03:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | so when game boots it starts up and prints "Password: xx" |
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| 17:04:00 | sam686 | if it was at the end of comment (// blah blah ... password), i won't have noticed that fast... |
| 17:05:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | hmm, i might have to go search the bf source code for some passwords :-) - kidding |
| 17:06:00 | sam686 | i don't think there any password (other then the useless one that have now been changed) |
| 17:06:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ... you hope |
| 17:08:00 | sam686 | i am sure raptor might have pasted their password once (or more?) somewhere in a chat (irc chat or skype chat?) |
| 17:09:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | you never know :-) |
| 17:10:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | it's all well and good having strong randomized passwords.. but you have to past them if their really good.. but if that's the case, how do you remember them if your computer goes up in smoke? |
| 17:13:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | But that's why I have a memory stick, with a text file with every single generated and normal password for every email account website etc in it :-).. and the password i pasted in here, is for that memorystick :o So no worries... |
| 17:14:00 | sam686 | what if your computer dies by sending a spark and killing both your USB flash drive and hard disk? |
| 17:14:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | I'm 100% stuffed |
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| 17:40:00 | watusimoto | so |
| 17:41:00 | watusimoto | I think that the protective shield that appears when you first spawn should slowly "unwind" as the time it is effective elapses, so it can act as a sort of timer of how much longer it will remain active |
| 17:41:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | watusimoto: I like that idea. |
| 17:42:00 | watusimoto | maybe it should change color or something as it unwinds... so it starts all green and unwindes leaving a faint shell behind |
| 17:42:00 | watusimoto | of course moving would just make it disappear as it does today |
| 17:42:00 | watusimoto | thx |
| 17:42:00 | sam686 | well, if we want that, then we would need to send a timer to clients, instead of just one bit, in Ship::pack / unpack |
| 17:43:00 | watusimoto | that's a good point |
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| 17:50:00 | raptor | so |
| 17:51:00 | raptor | i have had much success with joystick settings in the INI |
| 17:51:00 | raptor | in its own ini |
| 17:51:00 | raptor | this is what it looks like: http://pastie.org/2853158 |
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| 17:53:00 | raptor | Now I have to do that with the other 8 controllers, and I need people to test again... |
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| 18:06:00 | raptor | Flash_Garden: which joystick was yours again? |
| 18:12:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | copying message 8 of 28077 to CentOS Discussion - Argh, this is why i dislike moving my mails from one provider to another (via imap) due to mailing lists ha -.- |
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| 20:29:00 | Zoomber | yoyoyoyoyo |
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| 21:01:00 | raptor | hi |
| 21:07:00 | raptor | Flash_Garden: you here? |
| 21:10:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 21:10:00 | sam686 | how far do you got in your joystick INI thing? |
| 21:10:00 | raptor | almost done! |
| 21:10:00 | raptor | I just need to finish migrating the profiles in the INI - i have 4 of 9 done |
| 21:11:00 | sam686 | good, i could test that when you are done.. |
| 21:12:00 | raptor | OK, four to go... |
| 21:12:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 7453784aa2ef | Author: sam8641 | Log: Asteroid: add ajustable size in editor, convert mSizeIndex into mSizeLeft, remove unneeded Asteroid getCollisionCircle as MoveObject have their own. |
| 21:14:00 | raptor | I still need to get the playstation symbols to work, but i can do that while you test.. |
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| 21:26:00 | raptor | ps2 i hate you |
| 21:26:00 | watusimoto | hey raptor |
| 21:26:00 | sam686 | how about ps3 sixaxis? |
| 21:27:00 | watusimoto | looking at an sdl thing |
| 21:27:00 | watusimoto | do we create an sdl_surface? |
| 21:27:00 | raptor | sam686: ps3 is next |
| 21:27:00 | watusimoto | or, I should say, do we keep track of the one we creaet? |
| 21:27:00 | raptor | watusimoto: no |
| 21:27:00 | raptor | because we use SDL_OPENGL |
| 21:27:00 | raptor | the surface is delegated to the system |
| 21:28:00 | watusimoto | do you know if there is a way to get it? |
| 21:28:00 | raptor | i don't think you can when using opengl - what do you wish to accomplish? |
| 21:28:00 | watusimoto | or maybe there is a different way to do what I'm trying to do, which is to blit a bmp onto the screen |
| 21:28:00 | watusimoto | to create custom pointers in the editor |
| 21:28:00 | raptor | ah... |
| 21:29:00 | raptor | there is a way to do it with the opengl one - i researched this a while ago |
| 21:29:00 | watusimoto | I know you're in the middle of something, so I can do some more research |
| 21:29:00 | watusimoto | ok |
| 21:29:00 | raptor | but i can't remember my findings :( |
| 21:29:00 | raptor | die PS2!!! |
| 21:30:00 | raptor | sigh - i'm going to leave PS2 slightly borken... |
| 21:30:00 | raptor | on to ps3! |
| 21:32:00 | raptor | sam686: did the ps3 dpad work ok? or was it detected as buttons? |
| 21:33:00 | sam686 | in linux D-Pad was 4 buttons.. |
| 21:34:00 | raptor | rats |
| 21:34:00 | raptor | ok |
| 21:34:00 | sam686 | in windows, it was mostly the same button mapping as PS2, including POV.. |
| 21:41:00 | raptor | ok, done with the INI i think... |
| 21:41:00 | raptor | let me do a few tests |
| 21:42:00 | raptor | ok |
| 21:42:00 | raptor | ready for this commit? |
| 21:42:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 21:43:00 | raptor | watusimoto, if i commit, will you be able to update without merging? |
| 21:46:00 | raptor | ok ready or not |
| 21:46:00 | raptor | i'm pushing... |
| 21:47:00 | raptor | 100k patch set |
| 21:47:00 | raptor | enjoy! |
| 21:48:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 14aed12c1276 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Partial rewrite of the joystick system to dynamically load joystick profiles from an INI - converted in code profiles to joystick_presets.ini. read thoroughly - rewrote much of joystick render - still more optimization to do - TODO: implement symbol drawing for buttons (like with PS2) |
| 21:48:00 | raptor | watusimoto: i hope you can merge ok |
| 21:49:00 | sam686 | one problem, exe/joystick_presets.ini was added, but will installer include that file? |
| 21:49:00 | raptor | nope |
| 21:49:00 | raptor | that's on my TODO list :) |
| 21:51:00 | raptor | let me fix the installer... |
| 21:52:00 | sam686 | http://208.107.52.15/bitfighter/white_number_inside_red_button.png |
| 21:52:00 | raptor | whoa |
| 21:52:00 | raptor | what happened?? |
| 21:52:00 | sam686 | umm, buttons doesn't look right while the button is held down |
| 21:52:00 | raptor | did you do a complete make clean? |
| 21:52:00 | sam686 | number 1,2,3,4 stayed white |
| 21:53:00 | sam686 | no, that me holding down all the buttons |
| 21:53:00 | raptor | oh |
| 21:53:00 | sam686 | i couldn't hold down all button 1-10 at the same time |
| 21:53:00 | raptor | haha |
| 21:53:00 | raptor | what do you mean they don't look right? |
| 21:54:00 | sam686 | but it shows a number 1-4 button stay white, while 5-8 have red numbers |
| 21:54:00 | raptor | ah.... my fault... |
| 21:54:00 | sam686 | that is, red circle, white number 1, |
| 21:54:00 | raptor | ok |
| 21:54:00 | raptor | only on rectangle buttons? |
| 21:55:00 | sam686 | also, logitech dual action button 12 should show as 10, 11 should show as 9, as those is really numbered on my Logitech dual action controller |
| 21:56:00 | raptor | you can change the INI |
| 21:56:00 | raptor | and commit your better profile |
| 21:56:00 | sam686 | the last 2 circle is not labeled on my controller, but is left / right analog stick button press |
| 21:56:00 | raptor | yes |
| 21:56:00 | raptor | many buttons are not labeled |
| 21:58:00 | sam686 | My logitech dual action have all the buttons numbers (except last 2 which is analog stick left / right) |
| 21:59:00 | raptor | ok, add the appropriate "Label:12;" to the INI |
| 22:00:00 | raptor | ok, i think i fixed the button colors |
| 22:03:00 | sam686 | fix playstation buttons? http://208.107.52.15/bitfighter/ps_buttons.png |
| 22:03:00 | raptor | haha |
| 22:04:00 | raptor | remember when i said they were going to be a bit borken... |
| 22:04:00 | raptor | broken |
| 22:04:00 | raptor | also the TODO in the commit message... |
| 22:04:00 | raptor | :) |
| 22:04:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 22:04:00 | raptor | i'll get there eventually - i wanted to commit so you could do some quick testing |
| 22:05:00 | raptor | I have to think about code drawing the PS symbols with my current system... |
| 22:05:00 | raptor | think about coding the drawing... |
| 22:05:00 | raptor | and be efficient |
| 22:05:00 | raptor | i just need to think |
| 22:08:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 423e548a7bcf | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix joystick button activation colors |
| 22:08:00 | sam686 | There is only 4 symbols in Playstation controller, maybe drawing code could be hard coded, and ini could have button1draw = button_square or something |
| 22:09:00 | raptor | yeah - i'm going with hard coding... |
| 22:18:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 2ebec415f7a6 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Minor INI cleanup; also adjust label on right triangle button a little |
| 22:21:00 | raptor | ok added to windows installer.. |
| 22:23:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 98782e546101 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Add joystick_presets.ini to the windows installer |
| 22:24:00 | sam686 | and, on sixaxis, button back (select) and start is reversed.. |
| 22:24:00 | raptor | sweet! |
| 22:25:00 | raptor | i'm suprised it wasn't completely messed up... |
| 22:25:00 | sam686 | but the rest seems fine on those controller |
| 22:35:00 | raptor | watusimoto: basically you turn off the SDL_Cursor, then draw what you want in openGL (like with the shoot axis in-game) |
| 22:37:00 | watusimoto | I'm trying to figure out how to use glDrawPixels with a gimp c file |
| 22:38:00 | watusimoto | but now the compile's gone bad |
| 22:39:00 | watusimoto | probably because I had an extra } in there somehow |
| 22:39:00 | watusimoto | ah, much better... from 300 to 1 error |
| 22:41:00 | raptor | sounds like you might get more errors soon... |
| 23:00:00 | watusimoto | it basically comes down to this: |
| 23:00:00 | watusimoto | glRasterPos3f(mMousePos.x, mMousePos.y, 0); |
| 23:00:00 | watusimoto | glDrawPixels( gimp_image.height, gimp_image.width, GL_RGBA, GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, gimp_image.pixel_data); |
| 23:00:00 | watusimoto | so easy, yet so hard to figure out |
| 23:00:00 | raptor | what you need is to look at someone else's source code |
| 23:02:00 | raptor | http://code.google.com/p/glextensions/ |
| 23:02:00 | raptor | maybe here?: http://code.google.com/p/glextensions/wiki/GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object |
| 23:04:00 | watusimoto | well, it seems to be working now |
| 23:05:00 | watusimoto | now I just need my cursor(s) |
| 23:06:00 | sam686 | as with any glExtensions, it might not work on computer opengl hardware that is missing that extensions... |
| 23:07:00 | raptor | yes - but we need to move to GLES eventually... |
| 23:07:00 | raptor | if we ever want to do a mobile release |
| 23:07:00 | raptor | or at least code in GLES alternatives |
| 23:07:00 | raptor | but that is for 019 at least... :) |
| 23:08:00 | sam686 | as for drawing custom cursors, it could be drawn with only using lines, or by using a texture.. |
| 23:17:00 | sam686 | I found a problem, if your ship dies, then restart before it respawns, then it spawns 2 of your ship in which one of it seems idling.. |
| 23:17:00 | raptor | neat! |
| 23:36:00 | raptor | be back later tonight with my render optimizations and symbols done |
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