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| 00:00:00 | raptor | so they couldn't get good starbases - so i went planet hopping and wiped out no less than 100 planets |
| 00:00:00 | raptor | against 6 computers |
| 00:00:00 | Watusimoto | wow |
| 00:00:00 | raptor | it got a little tedious in the middle... |
| 00:00:00 | raptor | so many enemy ships |
| 00:00:00 | Watusimoto | I'm shocked to hear that |
| 00:00:00 | raptor | ha! |
| 00:01:00 | raptor | it only took us three days! |
| 00:01:00 | Watusimoto | maybe I'll teach my kids... |
| 00:01:00 | raptor | our wives are feeling neglected, however... |
| 00:01:00 | Watusimoto | I'm shocked to hear that |
| 00:01:00 | raptor | :) |
| 00:02:00 | Watusimoto | was thinking that we could consider a new language plugin for the new website... one where the little code buttons work |
| 00:02:00 | Watusimoto | your complaint about geshi reminded me |
| 00:02:00 | raptor | argh, another php segfault |
| 00:02:00 | Watusimoto | really! |
| 00:03:00 | Watusimoto | on tye official website |
| 00:03:00 | Watusimoto | ? |
| 00:03:00 | raptor | no, on the new one - after i updated the geshi plugin |
| 00:03:00 | sam686 | its teh http://199.192.229.168/ website |
| 00:03:00 | raptor | it's my testbed right now |
| 00:03:00 | Watusimoto | looks so... clean |
| 00:05:00 | raptor | argh, where is the php log file? |
| 00:08:00 | sam686 | did you find the log file yet? |
| 00:08:00 | raptor | no\ |
| 00:09:00 | sam686 | i think php log goes inside the apache log file... |
| 00:09:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 8ba5ca27f63b | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Line endings |
| 00:09:00 | sam686 | it might be error.log or access.log |
| 00:10:00 | sam686 | in the server , it may be in /var/log/httpd |
| 00:13:00 | sam686 | use something like: sudo cat /var/log/httpd/error_log |
| 00:13:00 | Watusimoto | wow -- have you guys tried Bitfighter's super larger-than-full-screen-full-screen mode? |
| 00:13:00 | raptor | um |
| 00:13:00 | raptor | i haven't |
| 00:13:00 | Watusimoto | It may be a windows only thing, still trying to understand it |
| 00:13:00 | Watusimoto | if you open a normal window |
| 00:14:00 | Watusimoto | then double click on the title bar, you get into a semi-full screen mode |
| 00:14:00 | Watusimoto | but the screen isn't centered properly |
| 00:14:00 | sam686 | i ran into super larger then normal, when doing fullscreen, then scrinking my desktop resolution |
| 00:14:00 | Watusimoto | then if you alt-enter, you get into a full screen mode where it's larger (slightly) than the screen itself |
| 00:15:00 | Watusimoto | the top and bottom is cut off |
| 00:16:00 | Watusimoto | oh the hilarity of sdl! |
| 00:16:00 | sam686 | oh, something you just added? |
| 00:16:00 | Watusimoto | hardly |
| 00:16:00 | Watusimoto | something I'm trying to fix |
| 00:16:00 | Watusimoto | when I discovered the super mode |
| 00:16:00 | Watusimoto | trying to fix centering when you double click the title bar |
| 00:17:00 | sam686 | i guess i didn't run into that problem yet, due to my monitors being 4:3 |
| 00:17:00 | Watusimoto | ah yes, the romanticism of yesteryear |
| 00:17:00 | raptor | ummm |
| 00:17:00 | raptor | our new server is being bombarded with ssh bots |
| 00:18:00 | sam686 | umm how to read ssh log? |
| 00:18:00 | sam686 | i wonder if all the bots is trying to log into zoombers vps? |
| 00:19:00 | raptor | its in var/log |
| 00:19:00 | raptor | /var/log |
| 00:20:00 | raptor | under 'secure' and 'utmp' |
| 00:20:00 | raptor | but they're 16 and 34 MB each respectively |
| 00:20:00 | raptor | 14 and 38 i mean |
| 00:20:00 | Watusimoto | maybe all those bots are running on zoombers vps |
| 00:21:00 | raptor | trying to log in with username 'kobiyashi'? |
| 00:22:00 | raptor | sigh, i wish centos would harden the OS a little more... |
| 00:22:00 | sam686 | how do i tell "cat" to only read a few last lines of a log file? |
| 00:22:00 | Watusimoto | oh, raptor, wanted to congratulate you on your levels |
| 00:22:00 | raptor | use 'tail' |
| 00:22:00 | raptor | :) |
| 00:23:00 | raptor | thanks! |
| 00:23:00 | Watusimoto | kde was my 2nd favorite |
| 00:23:00 | Watusimoto | I didn't think that was you |
| 00:23:00 | raptor | who did you think it was? |
| 00:23:00 | Watusimoto | k |
| 00:23:00 | Watusimoto | too obvious in hindsight |
| 00:23:00 | raptor | hahaha |
| 00:23:00 | Watusimoto | but celtic runes was yours all over |
| 00:23:00 | raptor | i almost added the level comment of 'GNOME 3 stinks' |
| 00:24:00 | Watusimoto | ah, but it doesn;t |
| 00:24:00 | Watusimoto | but no matter... it was a good level |
| 00:24:00 | Watusimoto | I liked the flag spawns luring you in to the turrets |
| 00:24:00 | raptor | how did you know Celtic was mine? because of my sneak peak at my SVG tool? |
| 00:24:00 | Watusimoto | I may use that on a future level |
| 00:24:00 | Watusimoto | yes, and who else? |
| 00:25:00 | Watusimoto | I had seen one of the elemetns, but I don;t know anyone else with an svg convert tool |
| 00:25:00 | Watusimoto | and that's really the only way to make a level like that |
| 00:25:00 | raptor | i'm still debating on whether i should release it |
| 00:25:00 | raptor | the svg tool |
| 00:25:00 | Watusimoto | could be used for good or evil |
| 00:26:00 | raptor | yes, i can see much evil |
| 00:26:00 | Watusimoto | well, great job |
| 00:27:00 | Watusimoto | maybe we should support curved walls in the editor in future |
| 00:30:00 | sam686 | you know what, people might as well make a lua plugin that can add "EnergyItem" or "SlipZone" as the only way to create more of those item is to capy and paste |
| 00:31:00 | Watusimoto | ugh! don't say that! |
| 00:31:00 | Watusimoto | hadn't even considered that |
| 00:32:00 | Watusimoto | we need our dungeon mode |
| 00:32:00 | Watusimoto | I don't mind letting people use those on dungeon levels; not sure they're good for the game in general |
| 00:32:00 | Watusimoto | I may rue the day with this plugin business |
| 00:34:00 | raptor | yeah, so... |
| 00:34:00 | raptor | the newer geshi keeps crashing |
| 00:34:00 | raptor | and of course the segfault doesn't output anything to logs |
| 00:34:00 | raptor | dinner time! |
| 00:35:00 | sam686 | i think i might want to create a /who or /whois for admin to get ip address from a player, i finding myself having to read "bitfighter_server.log" a lot.. |
| 00:37:00 | Watusimoto | why do you care about that? |
| 00:43:00 | sam686 | well, maybe not much, but I do find a user changing names frequently... |
| 00:45:00 | sam686 | or maybe a /read_server_log command that prints server logs into client console |
| 00:47:00 | Watusimoto | logprintf now prints to console -- you could change the events that get logged there (currently can only be done in c++) |
| 00:48:00 | Watusimoto | not opposed to a /whois type fo command, though |
| 00:50:00 | Watusimoto | this is unfortunate |
| 00:51:00 | Watusimoto | when user clicks maximze, we detect that as a resize event |
| 00:51:00 | Watusimoto | we try to constrain the window to our 8x6 ratio |
| 00:51:00 | Watusimoto | the os overrides, and keeps the window maxized |
| 00:52:00 | Watusimoto | but sdl reports the size we tried (unsuccessfully) to set |
| 00:52:00 | Watusimoto | so now sdl and the window are out of sync size-wise |
| 01:00:00 | sam686 | yes, that is sort of a problem with linux CPU-eating maximized, there it calls sdl resize continuously, because linux GUI won't let sdl change window size when maximized.. |
| 01:05:00 | Watusimoto | I wouldn't mind as much if we could at least figure out that what was happening and center the display or whatever |
| 01:05:00 | Watusimoto | it's just sdl reports back bad informatino about screen size after this occurs |
| 01:06:00 | Watusimoto | galcon solves this problem by not letting you resize the window -- it's either full screen or windowd at fixed size |
| 01:08:00 | raptor | SDL + window manager maximize = ugly no-no |
| 01:08:00 | raptor | we need to disable maximize |
| 01:09:00 | Watusimoto | I would if we could |
| 01:12:00 | Watusimoto | night all |
| 01:12:00 | raptor | night |
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| 02:03:00 | sam686 | grrr, it is so hard to listen to that poor quality voice compression when someone talks... |
| 02:04:00 | sam686 | that is only on existing 015.... will have to wait and see for version 016 |
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| 02:35:00 | karamazovapy | there's another way, besides an svg tool, to create levels like celtic arena |
| 02:36:00 | zoomber_mbp | and its not called zapcurvetool |
| 02:36:00 | karamazovapy | it's most certainly not |
| 02:36:00 | karamazovapy | it's how I made son of airlock |
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| 02:54:00 | zoomber_mbp | lol |
| 02:54:00 | zoomber_mbp | im so curious to know |
| 02:54:00 | zoomber_mbp | it would be cool if some text generator... |
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| 04:06:00 | raptor | sam686: are you on the new server? |
| 04:06:00 | raptor | i just added an iptables rule to disconnect people if they fail to connect on port 22 3 times in a minute |
| 04:07:00 | sam686 | oh, i guess i am in a server, i guess i left my ssh client idling... |
| 04:08:00 | raptor | also, would it be ok if i changed the ssh port? |
| 04:08:00 | sam686 | first, to which port number? |
| 04:08:00 | raptor | anything other than 22 |
| 04:08:00 | raptor | and probably 80 :) |
| 04:09:00 | raptor | i don't know... what is an easy number to remember for watusimoto? |
| 04:09:00 | sam686 | http web page will probably have to stay at port 80 if you want anyone to view web page... |
| 04:09:00 | raptor | yeah, i was just joking... |
| 04:10:00 | sam686 | it depends on what watusimoto would say... |
| 04:11:00 | sam686 | one problem with changing ssh port number is, if you can'ge port number and forgot, how to get in? |
| 04:11:00 | raptor | you can use nmap to rediscover it |
| 04:11:00 | raptor | but yeah, that migh tbe a problem |
| 04:11:00 | raptor | ok, i'll look into an iptables solution |
| 04:12:00 | sam686 | most of ssh scanners may password guess mostly the root user anyway... |
| 04:13:00 | raptor | well, the /var/log/secure file is getting HUGE because of guesses with multiple user names |
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| 04:21:00 | sam686 | looks like zoombers server is like 10 Megabytes of /var/log/secure file, but there is secure.1 secure.2 ... |
| 04:21:00 | raptor | yeah... check the /var/log/btmp |
| 04:21:00 | raptor | that is where failed password attempts go |
| 04:21:00 | raptor | whether on ssh or not... |
| 04:23:00 | sam686 | btmp have about 22132 kilobytes |
| 04:23:00 | sam686 | well thats for zoomber server... |
| 04:26:00 | sam686 | btmp seems to be a binary file... |
| 04:34:00 | sam686 | oh wow, secure log file shows the same IP address 57461 times, thats in zoomber 96.44.x server.. |
| 04:36:00 | sam686 | there are almost all dated in 16 hours in one day... |
| 04:40:00 | sam686 | http://hostingfu.com/article/ssh-dictionary-attack-prevention-with-iptables there is something that can be added with iptables |
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| 05:19:00 | raptor | good idea |
| 05:39:00 | raptor | i installed 'denyhosts' |
| 05:39:00 | raptor | works great! |
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| 06:30:00 | Zoomber | yoyo |
| 06:38:00 | sam686 | Zoomber, your 176.31.x server had some complete lagged out bitfighter server for 5-10 seconds, then comes back, happened about 10 times today (in a past 12 hours) |
| 06:39:00 | Zoomber | may have just been lag from paris, since its so far away |
| 06:39:00 | Zoomber | though, i host a different game sever on it too |
| 06:40:00 | sam686 | i don't know if that different game server eats too much internet bandwidth, or CPU, tried using renice to set the other server to lowest priority, and bitfighter to high priority, but doesn't completely fix lagged out problem |
| 06:41:00 | Zoomber | cpu holds around 60-70% running on average, when its full |
| 06:41:00 | Zoomber | bitfighter barley uses 5, unless bots |
| 06:41:00 | sam686 | also the uptime for that server looks like about 12 hours... |
| 06:42:00 | sam686 | that might have been why bitfighter from that server go dead.. |
| 06:45:00 | sam686 | whats that? the server 176.31.x says The system is going down for reboot NOW! ? |
| 06:47:00 | Zoomber | thats me |
| 06:47:00 | Zoomber | i'm trying to work on my game server right now |
| 06:47:00 | sam686 | any problems with your game server? laggy or what? |
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| 07:01:00 | Zoomber | no, it's having config file troubles and keeps restarting |
| 07:01:00 | Zoomber | unlike bitfighter, it has lots of plugins, and those plugins dont fix their config files automatically |
| 07:01:00 | Zoomber | then again..they dont have developers as goood as bitfighter's |
| 07:04:00 | sam686 | why should it keep restarting itself hunderds of time by itself? |
| 07:04:00 | Zoomber | sigh, everytime someone joins, it restarts |
| 07:05:00 | Zoomber | its all java |
| 07:05:00 | Zoomber | so, luckily i get logs, and i know where its coming from |
| 07:05:00 | Zoomber | but i dont know why it doesn't work when i fix it |
| 07:07:00 | sam686 | i am guessing you would have to remove the problem plugin or something... |
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| 07:07:00 | sam686 | bye raptor... |
| 07:07:00 | sam686 | 10 seconds late.. |
| 07:11:00 | Zoomber | yes, but it accounts for all [memer] groups |
| 07:11:00 | Zoomber | if i do that, my staff doesn't have server admin/mod privliges |
| 07:22:00 | sam686 | I guess i didn't use renice right, the way i used is -n but only changes one thread of a process priority.. |
| 07:22:00 | sam686 | ... ps -Aj -f -H ..... renice 20 -g 1233 (1233 is PGID, which ever is eating CPU a lot) |
| 07:23:00 | sam686 | -g changes all thread priority of one process |
| 07:25:00 | sam686 | bitfighter now comes far less laggy now, timer.bot now says min=10 max=15 max used to go up much higher.. |
| 07:48:00 | Zoomber | how will this work on my other game server? |
| 07:48:00 | Zoomber | right now is now when most users are on |
| 07:48:00 | Zoomber | it allocates 2.5 GB of ram btw, thats where the ram is all going |
| 07:50:00 | sam686 | i guess i found another way to change CPU priority... top... press shift+H ... press r .... enter process number ... enter priority (19 is lowest, -20 is highest) |
| 07:51:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 07:52:00 | sam686 | it seems like if that server have only 1 CPU, and your cpu / RAM eating is kind of slowing down the server... |
| 07:53:00 | Zoomber | the ram is all pre-allocated |
| 07:53:00 | sam686 | the RAM available is ok, but the CPU is kind of not very ok... |
| 07:57:00 | sam686 | i will need to go, bye |
| 08:00:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 08:00:00 | Zoomber | bye sam |
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| 11:49:00 | watusimoto | it seems to have worked! bitfighter.net points to the new site! |
| 12:06:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 0a479555aeef | Author: eyk...@crte-cey-15460.private.tudor.lu | Log: last night's work |
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| 12:43:00 | watusimoto | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8679560/handling-maximized-windows-using-sdl |
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| 16:16:00 | karamazovapy | hey watusimoto / Watusimoto_ ? |
| 16:17:00 | karamazovapy | do we have an estimate on the 016 release? I'm thinking about putting the next BBB off until it's available |
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| 16:31:00 | raptor | good post watusimoto |
| 16:31:00 | raptor | err Watusimoto_ |
| 16:31:00 | raptor | one of you |
| 16:34:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: for when are you thinking of setting up the BBB? |
| 16:38:00 | raptor | err when would it be normally if you kept the 'schedule'... |
| 16:42:00 | raptor | watusimoto / Watusimoto_ i gave you apoint on stackoverflow |
| 16:45:00 | watusimoto | oh hey, thanks a lot |
| 16:45:00 | watusimoto | was transferring my domains away from godaddy |
| 16:45:00 | raptor | cool |
| 16:45:00 | raptor | i never liked them.. |
| 16:45:00 | watusimoto | k -- as soon as possible. You can see the lists here: |
| 16:45:00 | watusimoto | !bug |
| 16:45:00 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug, please make sure it is reproducible and then go to http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list | Also, see current buglist for 016: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Buglist_016 |
| 16:46:00 | watusimoto | and judge for yourself |
| 16:46:00 | watusimoto | things marked 016 are for the coming release, 016a will not be done now |
| 16:46:00 | watusimoto | when would the next BBB be? |
| 16:46:00 | watusimoto | next BBB B? |
| 16:46:00 | raptor | har har |
| 16:48:00 | watusimoto | when is the new version of sdl due out? |
| 16:48:00 | raptor | no timeline yet - but they are in a heated debate on whether to drop the SDL_COMPAT layer |
| 16:49:00 | raptor | ok not so heated - it looks like everyone wants them to drop compabitibility |
| 16:49:00 | raptor | compatibility |
| 16:49:00 | raptor | and make is SDL 2.0 |
| 16:49:00 | raptor | it |
| 16:50:00 | raptor | but i'll see it when i believe it - SDL 1.3/2.0 has been in development forever |
| 16:50:00 | raptor | kind of like bitfighter 016 |
| 16:50:00 | raptor | :) |
| 16:52:00 | watusimoto | I see... |
| 16:52:00 | watusimoto | hey a quick question |
| 16:53:00 | raptor | ok |
| 16:53:00 | raptor | C |
| 16:53:00 | raptor | true |
| 16:53:00 | raptor | umm... 42 |
| 16:53:00 | watusimoto | you found that the alt-enter alt key thing is not a problem on linux, right? |
| 16:53:00 | watusimoto | har |
| 16:53:00 | raptor | correct |
| 16:53:00 | watusimoto | do you think we should fix it on windows, especially since we build sdl from source? |
| 16:53:00 | watusimoto | (do we build it from source?) |
| 16:54:00 | watusimoto | given that we (you) know how to fix it |
| 16:54:00 | raptor | yes, I built a later revision from source - sam686 had also built a revision where he removed the reset_keyboard portion from setvideomode |
| 16:54:00 | raptor | so we could use that |
| 16:54:00 | raptor | but it wasn't thoroughly tested... |
| 16:55:00 | watusimoto | I'm thinking we should try it |
| 16:55:00 | watusimoto | it will get tested while we develop, as every time we switch modes (which i do a fair bit), we'll know if it's broken |
| 16:57:00 | raptor | ok, let me look for sam's patch again... |
| 16:58:00 | raptor | actually, i need to fix a linux compile error |
| 16:58:00 | raptor | now this is an error I have never seen before: expected unqualified-id before numeric constant |
| 17:02:00 | raptor | interesting |
| 17:02:00 | raptor | preprocessor collision |
| 17:04:00 | raptor | oh watusimoto - I am running an ssh auditor on the new server called 'denyhosts' |
| 17:07:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 7eb872fb070d | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix compiling on Linux |
| 17:07:00 | raptor | you are allowed 10 failed valid (correct username) login attempts within 5 days |
| 17:08:00 | raptor | before you are locked out for several days |
| 17:09:00 | raptor | but only 5 failed invalid (wrong username) attempts in 25 days |
| 17:16:00 | raptor | actually, it looks like i'm travelling back home today... |
| 17:17:00 | raptor | soooo... later! |
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| 20:02:00 | karamazovapy | according to the "schedule", the next BBB would be one week from tonight, January 6th |
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| 22:37:00 | Watusimoto | I'd say we'll be ready to release by end of january. |
| 22:37:00 | Watusimoto | I'd suggest going ahead with BBB as planned |
| 23:39:00 | Watusimoto | !bug |
| 23:39:00 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug, please make sure it is reproducible and then go to http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list | Also, see current buglist for 016: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Buglist_016 |
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| 23:52:00 | raptor | howdy howdy |
| 23:54:00 | raptor | ok, what was my next task? |