#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-12-17

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

00:01:26 CrazyLinuxNerd Quit (Quit: Leaving)
00:01:49 CrazyLinuxNerd has joined
00:45:33 YoshiSmb has joined
01:06:50 Fordcars has joined
01:07:55 Fordcars what is hapenning! got connection problems, then I logged out of SAM server and got sent multiple ids error
01:16:02 koda Quit (Quit: koda)
01:27:54 bobdaduck has joined
01:31:53 CrazyLinuxNerd Quit (Quit: Leaving)
01:57:55 CrazyLinuxNerd has joined
02:37:28 sam686 Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
02:38:57 sam686 has joined
02:38:57 ChanServ sets mode +v sam686
03:51:38 YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
03:52:10 YoshiSmb has joined
03:52:28 YoshiSmb what happend you exited?
04:09:17 Fordcars he left
04:11:13 YoshiSmb ahhh.
04:32:30 bobdaduck Give asteroids a starting vector.
04:53:30 YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
04:56:39 YoshiSmb has joined
05:04:02 Fordcars Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
05:21:46 YoshiSmb Quit ()
06:24:58 sam686 Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
06:26:07 sam686 has joined
06:26:07 ChanServ sets mode +v sam686
06:26:22 bobdaduck Quit (Quit: Page closed)
08:05:16 kodaws has joined
10:10:58 LordDVG has joined
10:51:25 CrazyLinuxNerd Quit (Excess Flood)
10:51:51 CrazyLinuxNerd has joined
11:07:45 LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
11:10:49 SlightRemorse has joined
15:10:31 YoshiSmb has joined
15:42:02 watusimoto has joined
15:42:02 ChanServ sets mode +o watusimoto
15:42:32 watusimoto hi
15:42:38 watusimoto hi SlightRemorse
15:51:02 kodaws hi watusimoto
15:51:09 kodaws how's gci going? :)
15:55:17 watusimoto reasonably well, I'd say
15:55:38 watusimoto it's been manageable, and I've enjoyed working with the students
15:56:08 watusimoto I've been holding back on new projects until raptor gets back, but we're still moving forward
15:59:45 YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
16:00:03 YoshiSmb has joined
16:00:09 SlightRemorse hey, watusimoto
16:00:25 SlightRemorse so, about my project. Don't know if you got my reply on the site, it doesn't show up for me atleast.
16:00:41 watusimoto I didn't look, to be honest.  usually I get an email
16:00:59 SlightRemorse Ah, no problem
16:01:04 watusimoto I mentioned 3 points: 1) flashing window 2) closing app with X and 3) icon
16:01:12 watusimoto all should be pretty easy
16:01:14 SlightRemorse anyway, for the first thing - I don't really get that annoying flash you see, perhaps because my computer loads the thing too fast.
16:01:20 watusimoto :-)
16:01:32 SlightRemorse Second thing. So you want the X to act like the minimize button?
16:01:37 SlightRemorse Basicly hiding the window?
16:01:39 watusimoto There must be a way to tell a program to start minimized
16:01:48 watusimoto rather than to wait until it is already running
16:02:10 SlightRemorse I'll check on that.
16:02:45 watusimoto I did have a question
16:03:06 watusimoto occasionally I see a window appear that tells me that the app can't reach bitfighter.org, and to check the URL
16:03:15 watusimoto what makes that happen?
16:03:23 SlightRemorse Basicly I've put 2 things concerning the URL
16:03:32 SlightRemorse first error is if the URL is not a correct url at all
16:03:44 SlightRemorse as in say you typed in "OLOLOLTHISNOURL"
16:03:53 SlightRemorse it'll spit that the URL is incorrectly typed
16:03:57 watusimoto so something that can't be parsed locally
16:04:04 SlightRemorse the 2nd kind of error happens if the site you've linked it to
16:04:09 SlightRemorse contains no information to be parsed
16:04:13 SlightRemorse basicly if you send it to google.com
16:04:39 SlightRemorse Both times if it encounters such a problem it returns the user to the default URL
16:04:53 SlightRemorse I can tweak that feature to your liking as well if you want
16:05:38 watusimoto I think if it connects and then subsequently fails, it should not display a message; it probably means the internet connection is troubled and the proper thing to do is to try again
16:06:08 watusimoto so I would say, to keep things simple, show the message only if the first attempt fails; thereafter just try again later
16:06:32 SlightRemorse I see. Yeah that can be done.
16:06:48 watusimoto because once you've connected, you know the url is good
16:06:56 SlightRemorse Also I think the reason why you see the flashing is because the minimization happens from a command called from the 2nd thread.
16:07:07 watusimoto could be
16:07:15 SlightRemorse I'll try and move it right at the initialization of the form.
16:07:30 watusimoto I think that's the right place; initiailzation or even construction; not sure
16:07:44 watusimoto did I tell you I like the app?
16:07:46 watusimoto :-)
16:07:52 SlightRemorse yeah you did :-P
16:08:03 SlightRemorse also the X should just minimize it to tray, right?
16:08:33 watusimoto yes
16:08:44 SlightRemorse That could be a bit tricky as I'll need to rewire the termination in some way
16:08:51 SlightRemorse I could try and make the tray icon
16:08:54 SlightRemorse to be right click-able
16:09:01 SlightRemorse and then you can get an "exit" there as well
16:09:12 SlightRemorse as well as put a button on the main window
16:09:28 watusimoto That would be ideal; if that's too hard you could have a quit button on the main form.  But if the right-click works, do that; it would be enough.
16:09:50 SlightRemorse well I think actually rewireing the X button would be the hard part :P
16:10:46 watusimoto is this relevant?
16:10:47 watusimoto http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3049035/x-to-minimize-winform-contextmenu-to-close-winform
16:12:08 SlightRemorse Pretty much, it actually gives me an idea
16:12:57 SlightRemorse I'll see if I can change the event from window closing to simply that X button being pressed. Or if that fails I'll simply have a flag which will be used to determine if it's a true shutdown or just minimization
16:17:32 SlightRemorse i'll get to working on it in half an hour or so.
16:19:49 YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
16:23:13 YoshiSmb has joined
16:35:25 YoshiSX has joined
16:35:46 YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
16:38:09 YoshiSX Quit (Client Quit)
16:38:28 YoshiSmb has joined
16:50:49 YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
16:51:40 YoshiSmb has joined
17:11:08 YoshiSX has joined
17:12:38 YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
17:12:55 YoshiSX has left
17:37:42 watusimoto SlightRemorse: will be back on later
17:53:06 watusimoto Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
18:09:02 Watusimoto has joined
18:32:00 kodaws Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
18:32:19 SlightRemorse Watusimoto, want me to add anything else besides Exit in the menu from the tray?
18:39:22 Watusimoto Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
19:15:55 SlightRemorse Quit ()
19:21:02 SlightRemorse has joined
19:40:28 LordDVG has joined
19:42:36 YoshiSmb has joined
20:11:14 YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
20:20:03 Watusimoto has joined
20:26:08 koda has joined
20:28:38 Watusimoto hi
20:48:21 SlightRemorse Hey
20:48:28 SlightRemorse Do you need anything else on the menu that the tray will start
20:48:30 SlightRemorse except for Exit?
21:11:25 CrazyLinuxNerd Quit (Quit: Leaving)
21:11:50 CrazyLinuxNerd has joined
21:12:16 Watusimoto the only other thing I can think of would be a link to launch bitfighter itself
21:12:32 Watusimoto but we don't really need that
21:13:34 Watusimoto Oh, there's a caption when you hover over the icon in the tray -- how hard is that to change?
21:17:15 SlightRemorse what caption?
21:17:30 SlightRemorse the one that says "Notifications"?
21:18:00 Watusimoto yes
21:18:05 SlightRemorse what do you want it changed to?
21:19:21 Watusimoto If it can be dynamic, it would be cool to see a list of current players.  If that;s too hard, it should maybe say "Bitfighter Player Notifier" -- most of those applets have the app name in their title
21:19:54 SlightRemorse Well
21:19:57 LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
21:20:03 SlightRemorse if there are too many people that thing will become huge
21:20:06 SlightRemorse like really huge
21:20:21 SlightRemorse I think it would be better to say the number of players
21:20:26 SlightRemorse or just the name of the program
21:20:48 SlightRemorse Since imagine how huge the thing will get if say you have 5 friends playing at the same time with names of 10+ characters? :P
21:21:32 Watusimoto # of players would be good
21:21:32 SlightRemorse so yeah, should it include the number of players or just be the static name of the program?
21:21:37 SlightRemorse fair enough
21:21:44 SlightRemorse give me a syntax of how you want it to look
21:21:51 Watusimoto Maybe "Bitfighter: 3 players online"
21:22:04 Watusimoto Bitfighter: no players online
21:22:19 Watusimoto Bitfighter: 1 player online
21:22:35 Watusimoto yeah, I think you're right about the length of the names list
21:22:56 Watusimoto Bitfighter: 0 players online
21:23:02 SlightRemorse alright, gotcha
21:23:06 SlightRemorse that should be easy to make
21:23:08 Watusimoto need more examples?
21:23:09 Watusimoto :-)
21:23:25 Watusimoto Here's a new one: Bitfighter: 5 players online
21:23:29 Watusimoto you can use that one!
21:23:46 Watusimoto I can rattle these things off all night long!
21:25:24 SlightRemorse xD
21:27:21 SlightRemorse alright
21:27:26 SlightRemorse even made it say 1 player instead of players
21:27:29 SlightRemorse : )
21:27:33 Watusimoto awesome!
21:28:36 SlightRemorse and let me change the title when the thing is paused
21:28:41 SlightRemorse so it doesn't give away false information
21:29:34 SlightRemorse paused with lower or capital letter?
21:29:36 SlightRemorse which one do you prefer?
21:29:52 SlightRemorse syntax will be Bitfighter: [P/p]aused
21:33:34 SlightRemorse Are you here, the google task won't let me upload any files because it has past the deadline
21:33:49 SlightRemorse Where do you want me to drop the thing?
21:34:35 Watusimoto Paused
21:34:42 Watusimoto with big P
21:34:54 SlightRemorse gotcha, but where to upload it?
21:35:00 Watusimoto hold on a sec
21:35:56 Watusimoto I extended you -- try uploading now
21:38:05 SlightRemorse uploaded and marked
21:38:11 SlightRemorse also I've included the source in the zip
21:40:21 SlightRemorse 2nd zip, first one I missed to include the solution file
21:40:32 SlightRemorse which would've meant that you'd need to open all the files manually
21:42:06 bobdaduck has joined
21:47:51 Watusimoto I have the new version running now... let;s see how it looks after a few minutes
21:47:57 Watusimoto The flashing window seems gone
21:48:03 Watusimoto starts up to the tray nicely
21:48:13 Watusimoto right click to exit works well
21:48:21 Watusimoto icon is much improved
21:48:46 Watusimoto hover is over icon is nice
21:50:16 Watusimoto thought I found a bug, but I can't reprocude it
21:51:02 SlightRemorse what bug?
21:51:10 Watusimoto do you need to double click on icon to open the window?
21:51:17 SlightRemorse yes
21:52:10 SlightRemorse that's how all my tray programs open.
21:52:14 Watusimoto there seems to be no standard behavior about whether you single or double click
21:52:17 SlightRemorse So I figured I should keep uniformity
21:52:23 Watusimoto just trying my other icons
21:52:31 bobdaduck What's a GCI student?
21:52:41 Watusimoto google-code in
21:52:45 bobdaduck Also hi.
21:52:50 Watusimoto evernote notifier uses one click
21:52:58 Watusimoto java updater uses one click
21:53:08 Watusimoto bluetooth devices use two
21:53:28 Watusimoto with bluetooth, one click opens the context menu -- that;s just goofy
21:53:37 SlightRemorse There's no clear rule
21:53:48 SlightRemorse so unless it's way too out of the usual I can't say it's wrong
21:54:10 Watusimoto thunderbird one click shows popup toast, double click opens mail
21:54:12 Watusimoto hi bobdaduck
21:54:17 Watusimoto you're right.  no standard
21:54:28 Watusimoto no clear rule
21:54:32 Watusimoto ok, here;s the (non) bug
21:54:47 Watusimoto I thought I could get it to start up with the icon in the task bar
21:54:59 Watusimoto but I think what was happening was that I was launching more than one instance
21:55:07 Watusimoto you probably should not be able to do that
21:55:22 Watusimoto http://www.vcskicks.com/single-instance.php
21:55:28 Watusimoto looks very easy to make only run once
21:58:24 Watusimoto bobdaduck: we have several students working on various bitfighter things.  SlightRemorse is making a system tray app that shows when players connect to a bitfighter server
21:58:30 Watusimoto it's very cool
21:58:54 bobdaduck Really?  Like a server status app?  That's awesome.
21:58:59 Watusimoto yup
21:59:08 Watusimoto he's done a very good job
21:59:14 Watusimoto it's simple, but slick
22:05:17 bobdaduck When do I get to see?
22:07:15 Watusimoto later tonight
22:07:20 SlightRemorse Slight problem, Watusimoto
22:07:23 SlightRemorse if they're minimized
22:07:28 SlightRemorse the process tracker doesn't catch them
22:07:34 Watusimoto really?
22:07:37 SlightRemorse yeah
22:09:13 SlightRemorse but if it's not minimized
22:09:24 SlightRemorse it works as it should
22:10:17 Watusimoto that's totally lame
22:10:43 Watusimoto vb# (or whatever it;s called) has a run this app once command
22:10:57 SlightRemorse I might fix it
22:11:20 Watusimoto you are not usng vb!
22:11:32 Watusimoto sorry, misunderstood
22:12:07 Watusimoto is this a "winforms" app?
22:12:42 SlightRemorse ye
22:12:48 SlightRemorse I'm already working on a solution
22:15:34 Watusimoto ok, great.  I found this link, but the code presented is for an entire app (that only displays a text box).  I don't know enough to tell what parts are needed.  But stackOverflow suggests this will work even with minimized windows
22:15:36 Watusimoto http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheWeeklySourceCode31SingleInstanceWinFormsAndMicrosoftVisualBasicdll.aspx
22:18:10 Watusimoto you could use a mutex lock:
22:18:11 Watusimoto [STAThread]
22:18:11 Watusimoto static void Main()
22:18:11 Watusimoto {
22:18:11 Watusimoto 	bool onlyInstance = false;
22:18:11 Watusimoto 	Mutex mutex = new Mutex(true, "UniqueApplicationName", out onlyInstance);
22:18:12 Watusimoto 	if (!onlyInstance) {
22:18:14 Watusimoto 		return;
22:18:16 Watusimoto 	}
22:18:19 Watusimoto 	Application.Run(new MainForm);
22:18:21 Watusimoto 	GC.KeepAlive(mutex);
22:18:23 Watusimoto }
22:18:25 Watusimoto these have always frightened me, but this code looks very simple
22:18:52 bobdaduck So is the stuff I want to do in my level even possible right now or should I think of something else?
22:19:26 bobdaduck Also we should be able to configure turret weapons using ctrl-2 or shift-2 or something.
22:23:09 Watusimoto did I summarize it properly in the forums pm?
22:27:26 bobdaduck Pretty well.  I sent a response clarifying.
22:27:48 Watusimoto ok, I hate pms so I only rarely read them
22:28:04 Watusimoto but yes, the stuff I summarized will work
22:28:55 Watusimoto reading your pm now
22:31:07 SlightRemorse ok that diagnostic thing is really weird
22:31:18 SlightRemorse I'm getting a message that I'm running a single process -WHEN- I close the last process
22:32:21 SlightRemorse but I think I know why it does so
22:32:36 Watusimoto weird
22:32:55 SlightRemorse I think the fact it runs with 2 threads confuses it
22:33:08 Watusimoto what are you using for UniqueApplicationName?
22:33:32 Watusimoto wait -- are you trying the mutex approach?
22:34:06 SlightRemorse nah the other one
22:34:09 SlightRemorse nearly figured it out
22:34:29 SlightRemorse though there's one annoying thing - when Visual studio is on there's a default process on so I gotta turn it off and then test
22:37:57 SlightRemorse ok
22:37:58 SlightRemorse finally fixed
22:39:06 Watusimoto yay!
22:39:34 SlightRemorse Submitted
22:40:08 SlightRemorse Didn't check the Mutex way, I just modified the first thing you showed me to actually work.
22:40:26 SlightRemorse Original thing was made really badly to compare window names. So I changed it to compare IDs and process names
22:41:06 Watusimoto good thinking
22:42:56 SlightRemorse also just a note - if you decide to modify the source code and test it under visual studio
22:43:04 SlightRemorse you got to turn off visual studio and then run the application
22:43:21 SlightRemorse because for some reason while working on the project VS creates a dummy process with the same name as the application
22:43:33 SlightRemorse so the limit will simply kill the true one and possibly throw a weird error at the debugger.
22:50:57 SlightRemorse Anyway, all good?
22:53:00 Watusimoto hold on, am in the middle f something
22:53:12 Watusimoto for my wife :-)
23:05:44 SlightRemorse well I'm off to bed. I gotta get up early tomorrow. Hopefully everything works as it should. If not - I'll fix it tomorrow afternoon.
23:05:55 SlightRemorse Quit ()
23:32:22 bobdaduck Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
23:48:13 Watusimoto sam686: are you around?

Index Search ←Prev date Next date→

These logs were automatically created by BFLogBot on irc.freenode.net.

00:01:26		CrazyLinuxNerd Quit (Quit: Leaving)
00:01:49		CrazyLinuxNerd has joined
00:45:33		YoshiSmb has joined
01:06:50		Fordcars has joined
01:07:55	Fordcars	what is hapenning! got connection problems, then I logged out of SAM server and got sent multiple ids error
01:16:02		koda Quit (Quit: koda)
01:27:54		bobdaduck has joined
01:31:53		CrazyLinuxNerd Quit (Quit: Leaving)
01:57:55		CrazyLinuxNerd has joined
02:37:28		sam686 Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
02:38:57		sam686 has joined
02:38:57		ChanServ sets mode +v sam686
03:51:38		YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
03:52:10		YoshiSmb has joined
03:52:28	YoshiSmb	what happend you exited?
04:09:17	Fordcars	he left
04:11:13	YoshiSmb	ahhh.
04:32:30	bobdaduck	Give asteroids a starting vector.
04:53:30		YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
04:56:39		YoshiSmb has joined
05:04:02		Fordcars Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
05:21:46		YoshiSmb Quit ()
06:24:58		sam686 Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
06:26:07		sam686 has joined
06:26:07		ChanServ sets mode +v sam686
06:26:22		bobdaduck Quit (Quit: Page closed)
08:05:16		kodaws has joined
10:10:58		LordDVG has joined
10:51:25		CrazyLinuxNerd Quit (Excess Flood)
10:51:51		CrazyLinuxNerd has joined
11:07:45		LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
11:10:49		SlightRemorse has joined
15:10:31		YoshiSmb has joined
15:42:02		watusimoto has joined
15:42:02		ChanServ sets mode +o watusimoto
15:42:32	watusimoto	hi
15:42:38	watusimoto	hi SlightRemorse
15:51:02	kodaws	hi watusimoto
15:51:09	kodaws	how's gci going? :)
15:55:17	watusimoto	reasonably well, I'd say
15:55:38	watusimoto	it's been manageable, and I've enjoyed working with the students
15:56:08	watusimoto	I've been holding back on new projects until raptor gets back, but we're still moving forward
15:59:45		YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
16:00:03		YoshiSmb has joined
16:00:09	SlightRemorse	hey, watusimoto
16:00:25	SlightRemorse	so, about my project. Don't know if you got my reply on the site, it doesn't show up for me atleast.
16:00:41	watusimoto	I didn't look, to be honest. usually I get an email
16:00:59	SlightRemorse	Ah, no problem
16:01:04	watusimoto	I mentioned 3 points: 1) flashing window 2) closing app with X and 3) icon
16:01:12	watusimoto	all should be pretty easy
16:01:14	SlightRemorse	anyway, for the first thing - I don't really get that annoying flash you see, perhaps because my computer loads the thing too fast.
16:01:20	watusimoto	:-)
16:01:32	SlightRemorse	Second thing. So you want the X to act like the minimize button?
16:01:37	SlightRemorse	Basicly hiding the window?
16:01:39	watusimoto	There must be a way to tell a program to start minimized
16:01:48	watusimoto	rather than to wait until it is already running
16:02:10	SlightRemorse	I'll check on that.
16:02:45	watusimoto	I did have a question
16:03:06	watusimoto	occasionally I see a window appear that tells me that the app can't reach bitfighter.org, and to check the URL
16:03:15	watusimoto	what makes that happen?
16:03:23	SlightRemorse	Basicly I've put 2 things concerning the URL
16:03:32	SlightRemorse	first error is if the URL is not a correct url at all
16:03:44	SlightRemorse	as in say you typed in "OLOLOLTHISNOURL"
16:03:53	SlightRemorse	it'll spit that the URL is incorrectly typed
16:03:57	watusimoto	so something that can't be parsed locally
16:04:04	SlightRemorse	the 2nd kind of error happens if the site you've linked it to
16:04:09	SlightRemorse	contains no information to be parsed
16:04:13	SlightRemorse	basicly if you send it to google.com
16:04:39	SlightRemorse	Both times if it encounters such a problem it returns the user to the default URL
16:04:53	SlightRemorse	I can tweak that feature to your liking as well if you want
16:05:38	watusimoto	I think if it connects and then subsequently fails, it should not display a message; it probably means the internet connection is troubled and the proper thing to do is to try again
16:06:08	watusimoto	so I would say, to keep things simple, show the message only if the first attempt fails; thereafter just try again later
16:06:32	SlightRemorse	I see. Yeah that can be done.
16:06:48	watusimoto	because once you've connected, you know the url is good
16:06:56	SlightRemorse	Also I think the reason why you see the flashing is because the minimization happens from a command called from the 2nd thread.
16:07:07	watusimoto	could be
16:07:15	SlightRemorse	I'll try and move it right at the initialization of the form.
16:07:30	watusimoto	I think that's the right place; initiailzation or even construction; not sure
16:07:44	watusimoto	did I tell you I like the app?
16:07:46	watusimoto	:-)
16:07:52	SlightRemorse	yeah you did :-P
16:08:03	SlightRemorse	also the X should just minimize it to tray, right?
16:08:33	watusimoto	yes
16:08:44	SlightRemorse	That could be a bit tricky as I'll need to rewire the termination in some way
16:08:51	SlightRemorse	I could try and make the tray icon
16:08:54	SlightRemorse	to be right click-able
16:09:01	SlightRemorse	and then you can get an "exit" there as well
16:09:12	SlightRemorse	as well as put a button on the main window
16:09:28	watusimoto	That would be ideal; if that's too hard you could have a quit button on the main form. But if the right-click works, do that; it would be enough.
16:09:50	SlightRemorse	well I think actually rewireing the X button would be the hard part :P
16:10:46	watusimoto	is this relevant?
16:10:47	watusimoto	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3049035/x-to-minimize-winform-contextmenu-to-close-winform
16:12:08	SlightRemorse	Pretty much, it actually gives me an idea
16:12:57	SlightRemorse	I'll see if I can change the event from window closing to simply that X button being pressed. Or if that fails I'll simply have a flag which will be used to determine if it's a true shutdown or just minimization
16:17:32	SlightRemorse	i'll get to working on it in half an hour or so.
16:19:49		YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
16:23:13		YoshiSmb has joined
16:35:25		YoshiSX has joined
16:35:46		YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
16:38:09		YoshiSX Quit (Client Quit)
16:38:28		YoshiSmb has joined
16:50:49		YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
16:51:40		YoshiSmb has joined
17:11:08		YoshiSX has joined
17:12:38		YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
17:12:55		YoshiSX has left
17:37:42	watusimoto	SlightRemorse: will be back on later
17:53:06		watusimoto Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
18:09:02		Watusimoto has joined
18:32:00		kodaws Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
18:32:19	SlightRemorse	Watusimoto, want me to add anything else besides Exit in the menu from the tray?
18:39:22		Watusimoto Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
19:15:55		SlightRemorse Quit ()
19:21:02		SlightRemorse has joined
19:40:28		LordDVG has joined
19:42:36		YoshiSmb has joined
20:11:14		YoshiSmb Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
20:20:03		Watusimoto has joined
20:26:08		koda has joined
20:28:38	Watusimoto	hi
20:48:21	SlightRemorse	Hey
20:48:28	SlightRemorse	Do you need anything else on the menu that the tray will start
20:48:30	SlightRemorse	except for Exit?
21:11:25		CrazyLinuxNerd Quit (Quit: Leaving)
21:11:50		CrazyLinuxNerd has joined
21:12:16	Watusimoto	the only other thing I can think of would be a link to launch bitfighter itself
21:12:32	Watusimoto	but we don't really need that
21:13:34	Watusimoto	Oh, there's a caption when you hover over the icon in the tray -- how hard is that to change?
21:17:15	SlightRemorse	what caption?
21:17:30	SlightRemorse	the one that says "Notifications"?
21:18:00	Watusimoto	yes
21:18:05	SlightRemorse	what do you want it changed to?
21:19:21	Watusimoto	If it can be dynamic, it would be cool to see a list of current players. If that;s too hard, it should maybe say "Bitfighter Player Notifier" -- most of those applets have the app name in their title
21:19:54	SlightRemorse	Well
21:19:57		LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
21:20:03	SlightRemorse	if there are too many people that thing will become huge
21:20:06	SlightRemorse	like really huge
21:20:21	SlightRemorse	I think it would be better to say the number of players
21:20:26	SlightRemorse	or just the name of the program
21:20:48	SlightRemorse	Since imagine how huge the thing will get if say you have 5 friends playing at the same time with names of 10+ characters? :P
21:21:32	Watusimoto	# of players would be good
21:21:32	SlightRemorse	so yeah, should it include the number of players or just be the static name of the program?
21:21:37	SlightRemorse	fair enough
21:21:44	SlightRemorse	give me a syntax of how you want it to look
21:21:51	Watusimoto	Maybe "Bitfighter: 3 players online"
21:22:04	Watusimoto	Bitfighter: no players online
21:22:19	Watusimoto	Bitfighter: 1 player online
21:22:35	Watusimoto	yeah, I think you're right about the length of the names list
21:22:56	Watusimoto	Bitfighter: 0 players online
21:23:02	SlightRemorse	alright, gotcha
21:23:06	SlightRemorse	that should be easy to make
21:23:08	Watusimoto	need more examples?
21:23:09	Watusimoto	:-)
21:23:25	Watusimoto	Here's a new one: Bitfighter: 5 players online
21:23:29	Watusimoto	you can use that one!
21:23:46	Watusimoto	I can rattle these things off all night long!
21:25:24	SlightRemorse	xD
21:27:21	SlightRemorse	alright
21:27:26	SlightRemorse	even made it say 1 player instead of players
21:27:29	SlightRemorse	: )
21:27:33	Watusimoto	awesome!
21:28:36	SlightRemorse	and let me change the title when the thing is paused
21:28:41	SlightRemorse	so it doesn't give away false information
21:29:34	SlightRemorse	paused with lower or capital letter?
21:29:36	SlightRemorse	which one do you prefer?
21:29:52	SlightRemorse	syntax will be Bitfighter: [P/p]aused
21:33:34	SlightRemorse	Are you here, the google task won't let me upload any files because it has past the deadline
21:33:49	SlightRemorse	Where do you want me to drop the thing?
21:34:35	Watusimoto	Paused
21:34:42	Watusimoto	with big P
21:34:54	SlightRemorse	gotcha, but where to upload it?
21:35:00	Watusimoto	hold on a sec
21:35:56	Watusimoto	I extended you -- try uploading now
21:38:05	SlightRemorse	uploaded and marked
21:38:11	SlightRemorse	also I've included the source in the zip
21:40:21	SlightRemorse	2nd zip, first one I missed to include the solution file
21:40:32	SlightRemorse	which would've meant that you'd need to open all the files manually
21:42:06		bobdaduck has joined
21:47:51	Watusimoto	I have the new version running now... let;s see how it looks after a few minutes
21:47:57	Watusimoto	The flashing window seems gone
21:48:03	Watusimoto	starts up to the tray nicely
21:48:13	Watusimoto	right click to exit works well
21:48:21	Watusimoto	icon is much improved
21:48:46	Watusimoto	hover is over icon is nice
21:50:16	Watusimoto	thought I found a bug, but I can't reprocude it
21:51:02	SlightRemorse	what bug?
21:51:10	Watusimoto	do you need to double click on icon to open the window?
21:51:17	SlightRemorse	yes
21:52:10	SlightRemorse	that's how all my tray programs open.
21:52:14	Watusimoto	there seems to be no standard behavior about whether you single or double click
21:52:17	SlightRemorse	So I figured I should keep uniformity
21:52:23	Watusimoto	just trying my other icons
21:52:31	bobdaduck	What's a GCI student?
21:52:41	Watusimoto	google-code in
21:52:45	bobdaduck	Also hi.
21:52:50	Watusimoto	evernote notifier uses one click
21:52:58	Watusimoto	java updater uses one click
21:53:08	Watusimoto	bluetooth devices use two
21:53:28	Watusimoto	with bluetooth, one click opens the context menu -- that;s just goofy
21:53:37	SlightRemorse	There's no clear rule
21:53:48	SlightRemorse	so unless it's way too out of the usual I can't say it's wrong
21:54:10	Watusimoto	thunderbird one click shows popup toast, double click opens mail
21:54:12	Watusimoto	hi bobdaduck
21:54:17	Watusimoto	you're right. no standard
21:54:28	Watusimoto	no clear rule
21:54:32	Watusimoto	ok, here;s the (non) bug
21:54:47	Watusimoto	I thought I could get it to start up with the icon in the task bar
21:54:59	Watusimoto	but I think what was happening was that I was launching more than one instance
21:55:07	Watusimoto	you probably should not be able to do that
21:55:22	Watusimoto	http://www.vcskicks.com/single-instance.php
21:55:28	Watusimoto	looks very easy to make only run once
21:58:24	Watusimoto	bobdaduck: we have several students working on various bitfighter things. SlightRemorse is making a system tray app that shows when players connect to a bitfighter server
21:58:30	Watusimoto	it's very cool
21:58:54	bobdaduck	Really? Like a server status app? That's awesome.
21:58:59	Watusimoto	yup
21:59:08	Watusimoto	he's done a very good job
21:59:14	Watusimoto	it's simple, but slick
22:05:17	bobdaduck	When do I get to see?
22:07:15	Watusimoto	later tonight
22:07:20	SlightRemorse	Slight problem, Watusimoto
22:07:23	SlightRemorse	if they're minimized
22:07:28	SlightRemorse	the process tracker doesn't catch them
22:07:34	Watusimoto	really?
22:07:37	SlightRemorse	yeah
22:09:13	SlightRemorse	but if it's not minimized
22:09:24	SlightRemorse	it works as it should
22:10:17	Watusimoto	that's totally lame
22:10:43	Watusimoto	vb# (or whatever it;s called) has a run this app once command
22:10:57	SlightRemorse	I might fix it
22:11:20	Watusimoto	you are not usng vb!
22:11:32	Watusimoto	sorry, misunderstood
22:12:07	Watusimoto	is this a "winforms" app?
22:12:42	SlightRemorse	ye
22:12:48	SlightRemorse	I'm already working on a solution
22:15:34	Watusimoto	ok, great. I found this link, but the code presented is for an entire app (that only displays a text box). I don't know enough to tell what parts are needed. But stackOverflow suggests this will work even with minimized windows
22:15:36	Watusimoto	http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheWeeklySourceCode31SingleInstanceWinFormsAndMicrosoftVisualBasicdll.aspx
22:18:10	Watusimoto	you could use a mutex lock:
22:18:11	Watusimoto	[STAThread]
22:18:11	Watusimoto	static void Main()
22:18:11	Watusimoto	{
22:18:11	Watusimoto	bool onlyInstance = false;
22:18:11	Watusimoto	Mutex mutex = new Mutex(true, "UniqueApplicationName", out onlyInstance);
22:18:12	Watusimoto	if (!onlyInstance) {
22:18:14	Watusimoto	return;
22:18:16	Watusimoto	}
22:18:19	Watusimoto	Application.Run(new MainForm);
22:18:21	Watusimoto	GC.KeepAlive(mutex);
22:18:23	Watusimoto	}
22:18:25	Watusimoto	these have always frightened me, but this code looks very simple
22:18:52	bobdaduck	So is the stuff I want to do in my level even possible right now or should I think of something else?
22:19:26	bobdaduck	Also we should be able to configure turret weapons using ctrl-2 or shift-2 or something.
22:23:09	Watusimoto	did I summarize it properly in the forums pm?
22:27:26	bobdaduck	Pretty well. I sent a response clarifying.
22:27:48	Watusimoto	ok, I hate pms so I only rarely read them
22:28:04	Watusimoto	but yes, the stuff I summarized will work
22:28:55	Watusimoto	reading your pm now
22:31:07	SlightRemorse	ok that diagnostic thing is really weird
22:31:18	SlightRemorse	I'm getting a message that I'm running a single process -WHEN- I close the last process
22:32:21	SlightRemorse	but I think I know why it does so
22:32:36	Watusimoto	weird
22:32:55	SlightRemorse	I think the fact it runs with 2 threads confuses it
22:33:08	Watusimoto	what are you using for UniqueApplicationName?
22:33:32	Watusimoto	wait -- are you trying the mutex approach?
22:34:06	SlightRemorse	nah the other one
22:34:09	SlightRemorse	nearly figured it out
22:34:29	SlightRemorse	though there's one annoying thing - when Visual studio is on there's a default process on so I gotta turn it off and then test
22:37:57	SlightRemorse	ok
22:37:58	SlightRemorse	finally fixed
22:39:06	Watusimoto	yay!
22:39:34	SlightRemorse	Submitted
22:40:08	SlightRemorse	Didn't check the Mutex way, I just modified the first thing you showed me to actually work.
22:40:26	SlightRemorse	Original thing was made really badly to compare window names. So I changed it to compare IDs and process names
22:41:06	Watusimoto	good thinking
22:42:56	SlightRemorse	also just a note - if you decide to modify the source code and test it under visual studio
22:43:04	SlightRemorse	you got to turn off visual studio and then run the application
22:43:21	SlightRemorse	because for some reason while working on the project VS creates a dummy process with the same name as the application
22:43:33	SlightRemorse	so the limit will simply kill the true one and possibly throw a weird error at the debugger.
22:50:57	SlightRemorse	Anyway, all good?
22:53:00	Watusimoto	hold on, am in the middle f something
22:53:12	Watusimoto	for my wife :-)
23:05:44	SlightRemorse	well I'm off to bed. I gotta get up early tomorrow. Hopefully everything works as it should. If not - I'll fix it tomorrow afternoon.
23:05:55		SlightRemorse Quit ()
23:32:22		bobdaduck Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
23:48:13	Watusimoto	sam686: are you around?