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| 19:48:47 | FoOtloose | psst |
| 19:48:53 | FoOtloose | anybody home? |
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| 19:54:52 | sam686 | hi |
| 19:57:22 | FoOtloOse | hi sam |
| 19:57:30 | FoOtloOse | im super helpless |
| 19:57:37 | FoOtloOse | which 19e do i download? |
| 19:57:46 | FoOtloOse | i just got a laptop |
| 19:57:52 | FoOtloOse | Little_Apple says the portable one |
| 19:59:05 | sam686 | it doesn't matter much, but the portable one is easier when switching between this version and old version |
| 19:59:37 | sam686 | also the portable one also allows putting into a usb drive to move to another computer |
| 20:00:09 | sam686 | the installer are easier if sticking to one version though |
| 20:00:45 | FoOtloOse | so as long as i only have one version and am not putting it on a usb its fine using the 64 bit? |
| 20:01:17 | sam686 | 64 bit, if you have vista/7 64 bit, check your system properties if it is 64 bit |
| 20:01:28 | FoOtloOse | okay |
| 20:01:29 | sam686 | if you only have windows xp, its probably only 32 bit |
| 20:01:32 | FoOtloOse | pretty sure it is |
| 20:01:41 | FoOtloOse | unfortunately i got stuck with windows 8 |
| 20:01:48 | sam686 | 32 bit windows cannot run 64 bit windows programs |
| 20:01:59 | sam686 | windows 8 might also be 64 bit too |
| 20:02:45 | FoOtloOse | it says 64 so im fine with the 64bit then i guess |
| 20:02:46 | sam686 | 64 bit version of windows is needed if having more then 4 GB of system RAM |
| 20:03:24 | FoOtloOse | why does it say experimental? :o |
| 20:03:25 | sam686 | my main computer: windows 7 64 bit, RAM:16 GB |
| 20:03:51 | sam686 | its kindof new, and not sure how the 64 bit installer will work... |
| 20:04:31 | FoOtloOse | the 32 will still run fine even if its a 64bit or no? |
| 20:04:51 | sam686 | 64 bit windows can run 32 bit programs yes |
| 20:05:27 | FoOtloOse | i guess ill use the 32bit until the 64 is a bit less...experimental |
| 20:05:31 | sam686 | 32 bit windows cannot run 64 bit programs, it will say not compatible if trying to run 64 bit programs on 32 bit windows |
| 20:05:39 | FoOtloOse | oh |
| 20:05:40 | FoOtloOse | okay |
| 20:06:25 | sam686 | 64 bit programs may also be a little faster too |
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| 20:08:15 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/upload/win7_64bit.png thats my main computer\ |
| 20:09:06 | FoOtloOse | on my windows 7 computer i only had like 2gb of RAM |
| 20:10:26 | sam686 | the main thing is to look at "Ssystem type" |
| 20:10:31 | sam686 | System type spell fail |
| 20:11:33 | sam686 | 64 bit programs are for 64 bit system only, |
| 20:11:51 | sam686 | 32 bit windows programs can run in 64 or 32 bit systems |
| 20:12:25 | sam686 | there are also a very old 16 bit programs that runs fine on 32 bit system, but may have problems running on a 64 bit system |
| 20:12:43 | FoOtloOse | it says "64-bit operating system, x64-based processor" |
| 20:13:07 | sam686 | yes, that means you can run 64 bit programs fine |
| 20:13:13 | FoOtloOse | it seems like the 32bit is running fine so far |
| 20:15:20 | sam686 | before 019e Bitfighter was only a 32 bit program |
| 20:15:29 | sam686 | ... on windows |
| 20:15:49 | sam686 | linux, and maybe mac, was already been compiled as 64 bit |
| 20:16:38 | sam686 | on linux 64 bit, it needs a lot of 32 bit libraries installs to run 32 bit programs... Windows already has those by default. |
| 20:18:00 | sam686 | linux open source have almost no need to install any 32 bit programs, thanks to recompiling. |
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| 20:38:08 | FoOtloOse | WATUSIMOTO |
| 20:40:12 | FoOtloOse | SUNS |
| 20:41:25 | sam686 | hi |
| 20:44:14 | FoOtloOse | the configuration settings? |
| 20:44:24 | FoOtloOse | it doesn't say " bitfighter.ini " |
| 20:44:46 | sam686 | is it in this folder? C:\Users\owner\AppData\Roaming\Bitfighter |
| 20:45:13 | sam686 | if you shose a standalone, its where you run bitfighter.exe |
| 20:45:25 | sam686 | that path is if you chosen the installer |
| 20:45:43 | FoOtloOse | yup |
| 20:45:46 | sam686 | also, might be something else then "owner" |
| 20:45:55 | FoOtloOse | all the other files are here |
| 20:46:01 | FoOtloOse | levels,scripts,robots |
| 20:46:30 | sam686 | yes, thats where you save those files for maybe transfer to another computer |
| 20:46:33 | FoOtloOse | oh |
| 20:46:34 | FoOtloOse | its here |
| 20:46:43 | FoOtloOse | just had the 'ini.' hidden |
| 20:46:55 | FoOtloOse | so i just delete the ini? |
| 20:47:33 | sam686 | yes, delete or rename bitfighter.ini, or you can open it |
| 20:47:41 | FoOtloOse | okay |
| 20:47:51 | FoOtloOse | deleted! |
| 20:48:35 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 20:48:56 | FoOtloOse | hi |
| 20:49:00 | FoOtloOse | you should totally add suns right |
| 20:49:08 | sam686 | hi |
| 20:49:33 | FoOtloOse | still says "No messages here (misconfiguration?) |
| 20:50:41 | sam686 | im kindof using a slightly older 019d, maybe something broke on 019e |
| 20:50:53 | FoOtloOse | aw |
| 20:51:00 | FoOtloOse | i miss quickchat |
| 20:51:34 | FoOtloOse | the ini has all the messages? |
| 20:52:16 | sam686 | open up your bitfighter.ini, i have this part http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1506/150628_19-51-49.txt |
| 20:53:31 | FoOtloOse | this is mine http://pastie.org/10263630 |
| 20:54:17 | sam686 | watch out - Password= ... |
| 20:54:28 | sam686 | you might want to change your password |
| 20:54:47 | FoOtloOse | awe |
| 20:55:59 | sam686 | i mainly have to update my game first, to figure out what going on |
| 20:56:00 | Watusimoto | FoOtloOse: quck chat hasn't changed, so something is broken in your ini. If you close the game, delete the entire quickchat section of your ini, and restart, bitfighter will recreate it for you with all the default chats |
| 20:56:19 | FoOtloOse | i did that! |
| 20:56:22 | Watusimoto | and? |
| 20:56:30 | FoOtloOse | i deleted the whole ini! |
| 20:56:34 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 20:56:57 | Watusimoto | it should work when you restart |
| 20:57:20 | FoOtloOse | i restarted! |
| 20:57:21 | FoOtloOse | it didnt! |
| 21:02:34 | FoOtloOse | i always get the weird stuff breaking on me. |
| 21:03:12 | sam686 | seem to work fine with standalone |
| 21:03:30 | sam686 | is the problem somehow the installer version? |
| 21:03:31 | FoOtloOse | did i break something? |
| 21:03:32 | FoOtloOse | :D |
| 21:03:39 | FoOtloOse | uh |
| 21:03:46 | FoOtloOse | all i did was get the 32bit off the site |
| 21:03:59 | FoOtloOse | i installed it to an sd card... |
| 21:04:11 | FoOtloOse | have really limited internal space on my laptop |
| 21:05:22 | sam686 | footloose's ini works fine for me, on 019e standalone |
| 21:05:32 | sam686 | also works fine when .ini deleted |
| 21:05:54 | FoOtloOse | :D |
| 21:06:03 | FoOtloOse | what did i do wrong? |
| 21:06:32 | sam686 | are you running standalone or the installer? |
| 21:06:39 | FoOtloOse | uh |
| 21:06:57 | sam686 | if you do standalone, it will use bitfighter.ini where bitfighter is placed |
| 21:06:58 | FoOtloOse | ...installer? |
| 21:07:21 | sam686 | you can try if the standalone have the same problem or not? |
| 21:07:22 | FoOtloOse | i just clicked "32-bit Installer" |
| 21:07:43 | FoOtloOse | i only see a linux standalone? |
| 21:07:54 | sam686 | i mean windows portable archive |
| 21:08:02 | sam686 | its a simple .zip file to extract |
| 21:08:03 | FoOtloOse | oh |
| 21:08:05 | FoOtloOse | okay |
| 21:10:52 | FoOtloOse | nope! |
| 21:11:01 | FoOtloOse | misconfiguration message still |
| 21:11:45 | sam686 | something weard then... |
| 21:12:14 | sam686 | what does bitfighter.log say? |
| 21:12:43 | FoOtloOse | wheres the log? |
| 21:12:43 | FoOtloOse | :D |
| 21:12:55 | FoOtloOse | like the in game " / " ? |
| 21:13:59 | sam686 | the same location as your bitfighter.ini |
| 21:14:13 | sam686 | or for portable, the game location used to run it |
| 21:14:35 | sam686 | *same not game |
| 21:14:38 | FoOtloOse | just says like i connected |
| 21:14:40 | FoOtloOse | and disconnected |
| 21:15:17 | sam686 | i guess bitfighter.ini is pointless |
| 21:15:24 | sam686 | screenshot might help? |
| 21:15:33 | FoOtloOse | kay |
| 21:17:26 | FoOtloOse | screenshots being weird right now. |
| 21:18:00 | FoOtloOse | can i pastie the log? |
| 21:22:01 | sam686 | ok i kindof just now ran into the problem you did "No nessage here" |
| 21:22:29 | FoOtloOse | yeah! |
| 21:22:30 | FoOtloOse | :D |
| 21:22:43 | sam686 | the problem happens when running bitfighter.exe without bitfighter.ini |
| 21:23:03 | sam686 | after quitting the game and running it again, with bitfighter.ini now made, it works |
| 21:23:04 | FoOtloOse | oh |
| 21:23:14 | FoOtloOse | but i always had the ini? |
| 21:23:27 | FoOtloOse | and deleted it restarted and it regenerated? |
| 21:23:39 | FoOtloOse | and it still didnt work? |
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| 21:25:39 | sam686 | does standalone/portable work after running the second time? |
| 21:25:46 | sam686 | without deleting bitfighter.ini |
| 21:26:30 | sam686 | this is probably due to trying to load quick chat too early? before making or reading a full bitfighter.ini? |
| 21:26:37 | FoOtloOse | yes! |
| 21:26:38 | FoOtloOse | :D |
| 21:27:01 | FoOtloOse | so the 32bit won't work? |
| 21:27:29 | FoOtloOse | wait |
| 21:27:33 | FoOtloOse | 32bit works now too! |
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| 21:28:05 | sam686 | the problem was missing bitfighter.ini and first time running bitfighter |
| 21:29:20 | FoOtloOse | aw |
| 21:29:28 | FoOtloOse | so it should all be fine now then right> |
| 21:29:29 | FoOtloOse | ? |
| 21:29:50 | sam686 | probably yes |
| 21:30:12 | sam686 | although kindof needs fixing so it makes bitfighter.ini FIRST then read quick chat |
| 21:30:31 | FoOtloOse | yeah! |
| 21:30:45 | sam686 | but the bug is trying to read quick chat without making bitfighter.ini yet |
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