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IRC Log for 2015-08-04

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00:00:26fordcars!bugs
00:00:26BFLogBotTo enter a bug: http://tinyurl.com/bfnewbug -- To view all bugs: http://tinyurl.com/bfbugs
00:00:33raptorNOT A BUG
00:05:45fordcarsNope! It's all good :)
00:05:58fordcarsI was going to ask for shitty event until I found out it was a shitty idea
00:06:22raptorsome events are good ideas - we don't have a lot
00:07:20fordcarsI was going to ask for a "level done loading event" since I often have to use a timer or the first onTick frame to do things
00:07:35fordcarsBut players don't load the level at the same speed, right?
00:07:48fordcarsSo maybe you would have to wait for all players to have loaded the level
00:07:54fordcarsAnd I was like, meh
00:08:35raptorhuh - so... you are not the first person to bring up the problem with main() running before the level is done loading
00:08:48fordcarsHaha
00:08:59fordcarsTry giving out instructions to all players in the start of the level
00:09:01raptorand i wonder - has it always been that way?
00:09:52raptorrobots are automatically subscribed to onTick, so maybe levelgens should be automatically subscribed to something liek onLevelLoaded
00:09:54fordcarsI think so, I heard levelgens before were actually used to generate levels!
00:10:03raptorah yes, ok, that's right
00:10:26fordcarsYes maybe so
00:10:27raptoryeah, you can still do that - build a whole bunch of WallItems in main() and have it work
00:10:35fordcarsReally????
00:10:43fordcarsThat is something that I didn't know
00:10:47raptoryes... checkout the mazegen.levelgen
00:11:00fordcarsOh lol
00:11:01fordcarsOf course
00:11:09raptorthat old thing :)
00:11:14fordcarsHahahhaa
00:11:18fordcarsAmgine changed that
00:11:21fordcarsAndmade it huge
00:11:29fordcarsIt's nuts
00:14:31raptorthat reminds me - sam686 old levelgen should probably be updated
00:14:44raptorremember he made a bunch that auto-generated gametypes?
00:15:12fordcarsNope!
00:15:18fordcarsBut that sure sounds interesting
00:15:29fordcarsLevelgens making levels is so underused
00:16:46raptoractually - i bet i can update these...
00:17:02raptorimagine having a randomly generated level each time
00:17:06raptorthat would be really neat
00:18:29fordcarsYes that sounds really cool
00:18:34fordcarsKind oflike Minecraft
00:18:41fordcarsWait kaen did that
00:18:51fordcarskaen did some auto-generated cave like level
00:18:59raptoryes
00:19:07fordcarsBut they weren`t playable really
00:19:26raptorsam686's were playable... if a bit weird
00:19:36fordcarsHah
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00:42:03raptorman, this is complicated
00:42:11raptorso complex it's putting me to sleep! night!
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00:57:39fordcarsNight!
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03:04:35BFLogBot Commit: 687d660dd9 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix bug where two teams, one with loadout zone, the other without, team without could not change loadout. Now determination of which team has loadout zones available is done correctly. This fix can be backported to 019x if so desired.
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03:56:17BFLogBot Commit: 93d50495e7 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Remove now unused params
04:00:35BFLogBot Commit: 33f82ec5ae | Author: watusimoto | Message: Nicer
04:01:56BFLogBot Commit: e96d3629b4 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Semicolon?!? We don't need no stinkin' semicolons!
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12:52:26watusimoto1hi raptor_
12:52:28raptor_good day!
12:52:32raptor_hi
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12:53:27watusimoto1how is win10?
12:53:36watusimoto1I want to upgrade, but will let the dust settle first
12:54:09raptorit seems cleaner, better organized, and maybe even a tad more performant
12:54:19raptorbut i have it in a VM with 2 GB ram
12:54:36raptori haven't played with any of the features yet, or even installed bitfighter
12:56:52watusimoto1well, you haven't really installed an os until you've installed bitfighter!
12:57:03watusimoto1I just found my first use for a cross join!
12:57:12watusimoto1Hooray for obscure features!
12:57:20raptora cross join?
12:57:24raptorlike a set union?
13:02:26watusimoto1table a has records 1,2
13:02:31watusimoto1table b has records 3,4
13:02:35watusimoto1a cross join gives you:
13:02:47watusimoto11,3 2,3 1,4 2,4
13:02:53raptorah, haha
13:03:04watusimoto1not useful for much, but once in a while...
13:03:19watusimoto1I need to generate all possible combinations of records, so this is perfect
13:03:36raptorthat isn't all possible
13:03:47raptoryou're missing 2: 1,2 3,4
13:08:37raptorunless you append them to the previous two tables
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17:04:36Quartzyraptor please help me I want to kill amgine so much
17:04:44QuartzyAll he does is post inflammatory shit
17:04:51raptorhi Quartzy
17:05:22QuartzyI wish I could delete almost every post of his
17:05:39raptorI'm not a very good moderator
17:05:58QuartzyIt's all hyper-opinionated, arrogant, and let's make everything unpleasant.
17:06:04QuartzyEVERYTHING
17:06:17QuartzyHe's been shitting down my throat at EVERY turn this entire contest
17:06:22QuartzyAnd it makes me not want to run one ever again.
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17:06:50raptoroh... that's not good
17:07:04raptorbecause I really like your contest
17:07:08QuartzyBecause he's giving me more feedback than anyone. Other people are half-heartedly participating, because it just hasn't been the greatest contest, which is fine -- while he's giving me all the feedback, and it's all bogus.
17:07:51QuartzyLike what the fuck
17:07:52Quartzy"Quartz is still wining..... I'm hoping we are not having fraud again."
17:07:58Quartzy1. it's not even my map?
17:08:31Quartzy2. what the hell, is no one allowed to win? It's not like the map in question has been winning by some disgusting landslide, it's been slightly ahead of everything else the whole time.
17:18:10raptorthe negative effect on the contest has me worried a bit
17:18:24raptorbecause I definitely want you to do them
17:19:08QuartzyThanks. I just found it a really discouraging environment this time around
17:19:43QuartzyMostly because of him. And I know it's immature of me to let him get to me but seriously he is stubborn as hell and keeps posting negative shit even when everyone brushes it aside.
17:20:30raptorheh - i just read your latest response
17:29:11Quartzylol
17:29:21Quartzywhich one?
17:29:59raptorvoiting final round
17:30:34raptorwas bobdaduck a decent mod? he seemed more like a people-person...
17:35:03raptoroh hey, contest results are up!
17:35:37raptorLittle_Apple did nautical!
17:44:14QuartzyYeah I know it's amazing.
17:44:21QuartzyHe was decent at it but definitely a people-person
17:44:34QuartzyNautical FTW. My fav map of the contest by far
17:44:40QuartzyThen HomosexualChipmunk of course
17:44:52raptorhah, yup
17:44:56Quartzyalso there's no badge reward
17:44:59Quartzyso dun do it
17:45:09raptorno? ok, i'll retract
17:45:16QuartzyYa
17:45:48raptordone
17:47:04QuartzyCool cool
17:51:15watusimoto1hi
17:51:24raptorhi
17:52:57watusimoto1Quartzy: my advice is to ignore; not respond, just pretend he isn't there
17:53:10watusimoto1do we have a way to filter users?
17:53:57watusimoto1because if we did, that might resolve some of Quartzy's issues
17:54:10raptorohhh... yeah, i think it's the 'enemies' list
17:54:20raptoreach user can have their own, i think
17:54:21watusimoto1Quartzy: try that, if you can find the option
17:54:41watusimoto1it wouldn't make sense to have a board wide global enemies list, would it?
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18:05:17fordcarsBitfighter keeps crashing
18:05:26raptoroh?
18:05:45fordcarsRemember when I was trying to get debug info? Yeah
18:05:51fordcarsBut It crashed again
18:05:58fordcarsLike 5 seconds ago again to
18:06:00fordcarso
18:06:06raptor!!
18:06:35fordcarsI think it only happens when I click on Menu buttons
18:06:40fordcarsBut it seems random
18:06:53fordcarsOh it also happened while loading a level
18:07:15raptoron windows?
18:07:21raptorwe gotta get a stack trace
18:13:58fordcarsI tried
18:14:05fordcarsBut Windows wasn`t co-operating
18:14:14fordcarsI spent like 5 hours on that
18:14:19fordcarsGot all the things I needed
18:14:28raptorare you on win10 now?
18:14:34fordcarsAnd the stack trace program wasn't stack tracing
18:14:36fordcarsNope, 7
18:14:55raptorhmmm
18:15:16fordcarsIt looks like Stack Tracing doesnM't exist since WIndows XP, which is not that smart
18:15:16Quartzythank you watusimoto1
18:15:20raptormaybe we should do a special ReleaseWithDebugInfo build for you
18:15:25fordcarsUnless you debug with Visual Studio
18:15:40fordcarsI got all of the symbols and stuff
18:15:47fordcarsOh, sure
18:16:09raptorcould it be that your problems were because there was no symbol info in the executable?
18:16:18raptorproblems with getting a trace, i mean
18:17:29raptorargh, sorry, i have to go!
18:17:30fordcarsNo I rebuilt a debug build
18:17:34raptoroh ok
18:17:37fordcarsOoo ok!
18:17:45raptormaybe watusimoto1 know more about getting a proper stack trace on windows
18:17:47raptorlater!
18:17:48fordcarsLater! We'll figure it out hopefully
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18:17:54fordcarsYes I hope so
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18:28:10Quartzywatusimoto1
18:28:14Quartzy"This post was made by amgine who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post."
18:28:19QuartzyPretty bad black list feature
18:28:23Quartzylol I don't think that'll help me very much
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18:52:36amgine123!ideas
18:52:36BFLogBotTo enter a feature request: http://tinyurl.com/bfnewfeature -- To view all feature requests: http://tinyurl.com/bffeatures
18:52:54amgine123!bugs
18:52:54BFLogBotTo enter a bug: http://tinyurl.com/bfnewbug -- To view all bugs: http://tinyurl.com/bfbugs
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20:53:27watusimoto1hello DiannaAgron
20:53:54watusimoto1 is now known as watusimoto
20:54:17DiannaAgronhi
20:54:23DiannaAgroni'm blazeth in game
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21:06:19SkybaxHey what button do you push to take a screenshot and where does it go
21:10:11fordcarsCtrl-q in the screen shots folder :)
21:10:19fordcarsIn appdata
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21:25:53SkybaxCool thanks
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23:26:36raptorgood evening!
23:31:37fordcarsGood evening!
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